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So I had my 3rd date with this chick, no sex...

 

1st date: - we went back to my place did some shots, I was touching her lightly on her legs and back in my bed, tried kissing her like two times - she leaned back, - she had to leave fairly quickly I made plans for a horror movie for next time. Smacked her ass at the end when she blocked once again my try to kiss her. told her playfully she is good at resisting. 

 

2nd date: we watch the whole fucking horror movie in my bed. We start kissing after, I explore her body a bit, nice petite with perky tits. I take her bra off but she does not let me take her shirt or pants off. I put her hands on my dick a couple of times, but she takes it back. At the end she grinds me a bit I grab her tits tightly and also later she strokes my dick and I finger her over her pants. I plan cooking date for next.

 

3rd date (two weeks later as she got sick after):

We cook, then back to my bed. I ask her to give me a massage, which she does but she does not want to get massaged. I put my heater on the maximum, still not the ideal temperature at first, but I end up being only in my underwear. Heavy makeout, grinding, same shit I undo her bra but shirts stay. I finger her over her jeans. Probably 2 hours of this. She just barely starts to touch me back with her hands. She mentions she should probably go as she is tired. I realized I should have introduced my dick already so I go for a heavy makout.  I take out my dick I said I want to introduce him to her. She doesn't touch it even thou I guide her hand.


Me: play with him

Her: 2 massages in one day?

Me: Just stroke him

She is just stroking my cheeks,

Me: you can stroke it with your mouth

 

 and start to move up, but she has a bit of resistance

 

So I have my dick out, we are making out. I jerk off for a while.

 


Me: You're not really a team player....

her: I'm sleeping.

Me: do you want to sleep here? (not needy voice at all)

Her: maybe next time

Me: well I have rules, you got to be naked.

Her: //some BS about cold

 

I jack off a bit more, then got turned off by the lack of her involvement overall. I stop and get out of the bed, turn off the music and start to answer messages to clients and prospects.


Her: Are you pissed?

Me: No, just answering some messages. 4 minutes of me doing my stuff she is in my bed

Her: Do you do that to every chick who don't have sex with you?

Me: (laughing) No.

 

I brush my teeth.

 

couple of minutes later

Her: Will you come back?

Me: yes, just answering some messages

Her: are you peeved?

Me: no, I'm never angry at people

 

 

probably 2 minutes after that she gets up, asks me to bring her to the door. 

She is really cold now.

Me: are you mad now?

Her: (not sure what she said, probably no - but she is obviously is)

 

She take on her coat and shoes. Awkward silence. I make out her with a bit, she stops and asks if I let her out and she starts to go down the stairs in the darkness.

 

I switch on the lights.

Me: message me when you're home ( it's like 23:40)

She: Ok. good night. 

 

 

I'm totally unsure how I should've handled it. Telling her that playing games with me and trying to price herself over everything else is something I don't want to tolerate? I had a bit of peeved vibe... But didn't feel I could articulate it well, so just ignored her -but I dislike this way of handling this. 

 

I like her and would love to hang out more but disliked the dynamics of me chasing her vagina and barely getting back everything. 

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you mean "prizing"

you mean "prizing" yourself

​dude. gay AF

​you had her in your bed and that's all you did? Best believe if you've got her there she wants some dick.

​c'mon, I feel like the issue is you're not being physical at all throughout the date. Did you set the precedent of physicality right off the bat or did you wait to "touch her lightly" till she was in your bed?

She wanted to fuck you genius, you have to understand high value escalation. Many times I'm fully naked before the girl has taken anything off. I get comments like "you're so comfortable with yourself" while she's stroking me just having a regular conversation. Other times I'm the one agressively pursuing, shoving my hand down her pants with a cheeky smile, in these intances she looks to me to see how comfortable I am with it, I've had girls call me out and reject me on it the first time only to see that I'm unphased and surrender to it the 2nd time.


p.s. it's SUPER important to calibrate when physically escalating, it's what seperates actual game from being a kino deploying nerdvirgin

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Her: Are you pissed?

Me: No, just answering some messages. 

4 minutes of me doing my stuff she is in my bed

Her: Do you do that to every chick who don't have sex with you?

Me: (laughing) No.


Dude, you realize it was YOUR fault the situation even got here, BUT this is also gay AF.
​You're being passive agressive (been there homie, DON'T do it) 

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Typical Rsd lmr story..

Typical Rsd lmr story.. lol. 

1. Stop getting bottlenecked at the kiss. Been saying this for years. I hammer it in hammer it in y'all still do that dumb shit. Besides, a kiss in this context is validation-seeking, women recognize this immediately and refuse such a beta behavior. 

2. Express disapproval. And don't lie. Wtf? Your emotions are powerful tools in your arsenal. Use them.

3. Lead emotionally. You ain't doing this at all honky. You're like an Rsd automaton thinking watching enough Rsd self-help "love your inner child" youtube vids is gonna get a girl magically spreading her legs for you. Lol 

There's a lot more, but that's covered in my training program, not here. ;) 

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i eat ass first date

i eat ass first date

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I've only eaten ass once on a

I've only eaten ass once on a first date. She pimped me. Damn Vegas nurses..

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Lol you like eating ass dawg?

Lol you like eating ass dawg?

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Jihad what is "ass dawg"?

Jihad

what is "ass dawg"?

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It's like german shepherd.

It's like german shepherd. But tastier

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Great feedback, thank you

Great feedback, thank you guys. Most rsd guys would have said that nothing I could do better, make her hornier while fingering... and that chicks from Eastern Europe don't fuck fast.

1) touching - Before getting back to mine we went for a short walk, I was touching her there a bit (cheek, shoulder, back) - my hands were really cold thou

Also was lifting her up a bit, grabbing her waist and saying I like it before going to the bed. But yeah, I felt the lack of creative touches and was fixated on the kiss on the first date. 

2) disapproval - yes, should've said to her instead of being a passive-aggressive bitch. I didn't like doing that but was too pussy to articulate it properly. I was quite turned off by her not doing anything while I jerked off. I'm pretty sure she wanted to continuously delay sex and aiming for a relationship. She was asking about exes and also more of my life and me than most chicks. 

3) leading emotions - yeah complete lack of it. Gotta do the training for that I guess :)

Is there anything I could do now at least to make my bitchy behavior less awkward?

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I mean.. it was your bitchy

I mean.. it was your bitchy behavior not hers. Haha

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I could be wrong about this,

I could be wrong about this, but it is my understanding you can't really be taking your cock out as the last ditch effort. It actually greatly reduces it's power the next time you do it. There is a big difference between high value escalation (focusing on your body and pleasures, such as taking the dick out) and taking your dick out to break her persistent LMR.

http://manwhore.org/forum/content/tinder-cat-sexting-and-memes-lay-report

This was a solid interaction that side stepped the LMR quite well.

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but dude SERIOUSLY taking

but dude SERIOUSLY taking your dick out after persistent LMR can actually be very creepy. I had a bad experience with that.

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fuck how do I edit these

fuck how do I edit these posts? Ok i'm just triple posting

Like if it was HOURS of playing ass grab you can't just do that. You're going to be taking your cock out once you effectively navigate, which is going to involve prizing yourself and dick first.

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thanks Meow,  Hm, I don't

thanks Meow, 

Hm, I don't think that either of us considered it as a last attempt. But I see how it can be like this. I didn't plan to act so bitchy just had a point where I was like fuck this, it doesn't make sense.

Thinking back about it  I should've gone back to the bed when she asked if I ever come back. The 'freeze out' might have worked there. But I was too long in this stupid passive-aggressive phase so she gave up on me...

Also, she hasn't reacted to my text since then. 

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