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This girl is tall, beautiful, athletic and a total ballbreaker.  She banged a few pro athletes when she was younger.  She lives in my neighborhood, so we met on my street and walked down to a bar together.  It was drizzling when I left my house so I had my huge golf umbrella with me.  Right off the bat she wants to walk under hers, and I was like no we are sharing mine, its bigger ;)   She has tons of energy and was super relaxed telling me stories right away. 

As we were walking the wind whipped up and it started raining harder.  So we were huddled together walking, and we fit together well.  She apologized for touching my butt and I laughed. 

We had a few drinks at this place which was pretty empty at happy hour time.  I escalated and she was open to everything but she kept trying to wrench control of the coversation away from me.  I don't know if this is deliberate or she just can't help herself, I'm thinking the latter.  She's used to being in control and taking charge.  Little things like if I had my hand on her thigh she would take it in her hands and hold it instead.  So it was kind of like 2 steps forward 1 back every time.  I told her we're gonna head out to the bar next door. 

Kissed her on the sidewalk in the rain.  And she obviously was enjoying it, but not with the passion or urgency I felt from the last two girls I banged.  I kinda ignored her at the next bar.  There was a group to our left who was going to Vegas for a bachelorette party next week so I was giving them tips, etc.  When I realized that she had her phone out I paid her more attention.  The bartender was being a lil twat to the point that she intentionally made my drink wrong, tried to give me shit about it saying it was my fault, and was just being a debbie downer.  I know the other bartender so I literally called her over and told her she's our bartender from now on.  I'm not sure exactly when or why we decided to leave, but at some point she asked me to walk her home.

When I said "ok" she immediately told me I'm not coming in under any circumstances.  I thought it was the usual ASD nonsense.  When we got to her door she told me to leave, but I weaseled my way in saying I had to pee (I really did though).  She has a pitmix who's a cool dude, so I was petting him.  And tryna pet her.  She was giving me the classic "mixed signals" such that she would let me escalate a little bit then tell me to stop and get out.  So I backed off, and then re-escalated.  NOPE.  She wasn't having it and told me to leave. 

So I left.  She called me while I was walking home to see if I got home safe.  And then she texted me first today. 

I've never had a girl drop the hammer like that before.  It didn't help that her dog started growling every time I got close to her.

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Did you "elicit her values"

Did you "elicit her values" or draw her out in any way? She's been "pimped" by icy players before probably wanted something a bit more. 

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Manwhore wrote: Did you

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Did you "elicit her values" or draw her out in any way? She's been "pimped" by icy players before probably wanted something a bit more. 

I need this post explained further. What do you mean eliciting her values or drawing her out?

Icy is a term I keep hearing but what is the description. I just picture someone with the freedom of a sociopath, if that makes sense.

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It represents the next level

It represents the next level up for "players", to actually be able to connect with a girl. Archangel's got more than enough capability he just likes to be lazy and/or harbor resentments towards women. ;) 

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Shikorah wrote:What do you

Shikorah wrote:
Icy is a term I keep hearing but what is the description. I just picture someone with the freedom of a sociopath, if that makes sense.

It means that you are emotionally unreactive. You are on your path, the girl has no influence over your emotions, she' not your path. You have the monopoly over your own emotions.

Newbies often misinterpret the idea of being unreactive as being unresponsive, when really what it means is: What you represent and your emotional state doesn't fluctuate as you get your elbows in the mud.

When people try to fuck with you or your frame, the key is to subconsciously feel what you represent on this situation.

When people are being passive agressive or bratty to me, I don't fall into their perspective on things, which is this self-defeating negativity that leads nowhere. My emotional state stays, more or less, stable and I interact with the person on my own terms.

Are you:

A) Offering value, outflowing, contributing, inspiring and leading. (Setting the rhythm, being at the cause, being proactive)

or

B) Falling into their perspective that leads you nowhere. (Being at the effect, being passive)

When you internalize this you know and understand that you have the potential to arouse anybody, the game becomes fun, and girls become the canvas in which you can express yourself.

Put yourself first, the game is about you, and the way you can feel about yourself and the fun you can have, and how you can make people feel.

Also when the girl has no influence over your emotions, and you can emotionally arouse her, you naturally become a challenge for her the more you interact with each other.

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