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So I fucked it up a few times with this one. Only been alone once and I fucked up the escalation. That was a few months ago. So I hung out with her and her two friends on Friday. I had the one girl allll over my dick. Didn't give her anything special she was just the loudest and most desperate of the three haha. But she was so obviously attracted. Her other friend really thought I was cool too. I hung out with her 1v1 for a bit. Just chatted. When I was with all three of them I had them laughing their heads off, I was leading the Convo and had all three in that quiet, attentive arousal. Good stuff. We drove back into the city in separate cars. I had plans and they were in the air so I just said I'll talk to you guys closer to the city, gave the one I liked a call but no answer. I didn't leave a vm or text. If they wanted to meet up, cool. But I was cool doing my own thing with others. So she text me this morning:

Her: Lol, whoops. I just remembered there was a missed call from you last night! Sorry! We just went for food with *3rd girl* and went home. Nothing exciting.

So I got that text when I was just waking up and sent back the first thing tha came to my head which was an inside joke from the day before... The one is doing a detox and I was joking about that.

Me: fools! Should've got one last drinking night in

Def not the best text at all. Barely funny (not for you guys but for her). Doesn't require a response. Adds nothing. Doesn't move us towards a meetup. So she doesn't reply all day and then at 1130 pm she texts:

Her: was it you telling me about that block party thing?

There's a sweet block party happening this Saturday. Now I dd tell her about that and I can either go for the meetup then. OR there is another concert we both were thinking of going to on Thursday Andd I'm going up to the beach all day Thursday before the concert with some friends. Mostly mine but two of we friends will be there. So I'm not sure which Ill try to push for. I don't want to get to her say no and climb down that yes ladder.

So I've pussied out with this girl before in text and in person. So she was/is aroused by me but just wonders if I have a dick. the first text she sent in this thread showed pretty high investment and I Rocked her a her friends the day before so that was good. But now I'm wondering whether I should just play that minimalist text game (act aloof and just set up a meet) to withhold showing my arousal and gain back the buyers frame then escalate in person, or show my attraction and establish it man to woman to show her I have a dick and let her know what's up if she agrees to meet or ... I had a third one in mind but I forgot now... Or any other way to play this..
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Re: My Concert going love
@icewahine:

I would go for thursday so you can chill with her all day at the beach mang. And say something like,

"That's Saturday. we're hitting the beach thursday before xxconcert. Start doing your pilates"

or change that last line to "bring your fancy beachball" or something funnier

But this will show that you've got fun plans already and it doesnt matter if she shows up or not. You're also assuming she wants to go, and there's no way shes going to say "no" to this in a fashion that would "climb down a yes ladder." Especially if your mutual friends are going mang.
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@Alex123:

That post and text was money. Unfortunaly I'm a fucking idiot and did otherwise this morning. I think because I fucked up the date ages back with this one it's put me in my head with her and I keep trying to rush things instead of being the buyer and having patience. I'm soooo angry. Not at her all, not at her at all. But cause I'm being a chode around her and not expressing myself fully.

So this morning I sent

Me: Duhh who else tells you about shows? Also xxxxxxx and xxxxxx are this thurs. We should probably go
Right after her: I'm working a double Thurs :(
Her: SO gutted
Few minutes later me: Perfect! A shift for your mom and a shift for your sister
20 mins later me: Actually that might work out better; I wanna go visit *mutual friends* at *beach* thurs. What are you gals up to after your classes

That was this morning. No reply and I don't blame her. I sent that second text as a spur of the moment thing. Especially since she probably can't give her shifts to her mom and sister and the text required no response. So I felt a need to send something else to make her reply and set up something else. Soo lame.

Oh well. She might reply later today or tomm with something like "ohh we just did xxxx" in which case I'll probably ignore unless I'm feeling 100% outcome dependent with her. (which I don't as of now) I fucking hate that needy feeling so much. Must go destroy it... Brb...

But aside from that I'll probably leave it for a few days, go have my own fun and pick back up later in the week to invite her to Saturday or something. Unless of course she does iniate first and I feel non needy and am ready to offer value again, remember that I am higher value. I don't even really care if thats the right strategy to get this girl. I just need to curb stomp the neediness weeds growin in me
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Just now she replied.. Even though she got the message hours ago (might not have been able to reply only until the past two hours) but she said

Her: Missing out on xband, b band and c band. Terrible. Wish someone could work for me. I'm missing so many gigs right now. Just heading to the beach for some vball


See haha fuck me. Perfectly normal and invested response. So much to go from. But look at the above post and notice my overreaction. I shouldn't even think like that. Ughh I hate the quality of that and the emotions of neediness.

Ill wait till later to reply. Going to go eat, meditate and do some work now. Thoughts? Either about the text or my homosexuality? Really I reread the last post and it sickens me. In myself and others value sucking and needy something is the grossest thing
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@icewahine:

Doing my Okc profile and reading olllddd threads has gotten me into a playful mood. Haha this forum used to be strictly Okc/pof and playful texts. So she's moving to Dubai in a month and a bit

Me: Don't worry. Dubai has only the finest of Arabic shriekers. You won't be able to go in public to see them but you'll sure as hell hear them from your apartment 
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@icewahine:

Ya with this one I would do minimalist text game. Which you replied in my okc girl thread that I wasn't doing it and now you arent! ;b

Its cool though Its actually hard to do. The texts MWs been posting are so fucking on point. If you read it though, you'll see he commented that I shouldn't be worrying about how she's going to hang out with me (aka those last 3 texts you referred to that werent super smooth).

Just assume this girl wants to kickit with you. Create tension by NOT overly explaining stuff. Those texts you sent about meeting at the concerts/beach were logistical and normal/"chodey". They arent setting you apart from other guys 'cuz thats what other guys would text her.

Not too much of an issue but in order to help contribute to "minimalist" game try condesing your texts. Your text about her mom and sister could be shortened to "Perfect. Shifts for your mom AND sister ;b"-- this isnt the best example, but receiving shorter texts looks like less investment and is more minimalist.

And other than that try to add a lil sexual charge to your texting. The text MW had about the "If you cant make it thats cool I'll just assume youre gay" is perfect for your conversation. Like if a girl wants to hang out with you bad enough she will find a way. Instead of playing volleyball right now she could be sucking ur cock. That text of his is good because it is sexually charged. You assume shes gay if she doesnt want to hang out. Because your a guy and youre awesome. Theres so much that is said there in only a few words. Even my pilates text adds a tinge of sexuality 'cuz its like shes gota workout before she shows off her body to you.

I think your analysis of yourself is pretty spot on. Take some deep breaths, observe how your body feels physiologically. Notice if when, you think about this girl or the outcomes that your chest tightens up, your breathing quickens.. Any physical changes in your body and then just be like "this girl has absolutely ZERO influence on me. Her actions have no effect one me" Take another few deep breaths and just relax, and do your best.
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@Alex123:

Thanks man solid post. I'm 100% geared toward gaining better understand of myself these days. Since I've been so haywire in the past and the only way to fix shit is to figure out what's wrong.

Yeah that thread of yours has a lot of gold in it too. I kinda see it here too.. Be more mysterious and pull back a hair to let her invest a bit more and create some tension for when we do meetup... I think that was the whole purpose of minimalist text game.


MANWHORE SIGNAL - all those playful and fun texts are to create a want for her to come meet you and then once she has the desire or you've met up once before you switch it over to minimalist text game so you don't fuck things up and choke the spark? This minimalist stuff is new on here. Trying to get an understand on it and when to use it
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@icewahine:

So with minimalist text game she replied:

Her: hahahah. Oh... Yay.

I could joke and play off that more but that it doesn't really fit the minimalist thing. Being aloof n shit... I have no idea how to reply or if I should at all. Or should I just reenagage in a few days a leave it for now.. Create some space since I won't be able to hang with her till maybe Friday Saturday anways
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@icewahine:

What did you text her before that
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Her: Her: Missing out on xband, b band and c band. Terrible. Wish someone could work for me. I'm missing so many gigs right now. Just heading to the beach for some vball

Me: Don't worry. Dubai has only the finest of Arabic shriekers. You won't be able to go in public to see them but you'll sure as hell hear them from your apartment

Her: hahaha. Ohh yayy
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Me: still go to the show thurs tho! I'll use your body as an avatar and enjoy it through you
Her: Wish I could. But I can't get out of work this week at all.
Me: Boo. When you working this week, it's so damn hot outside I need ice cream statttt!!
Her: Only have tues and sunday off. Blah
Me: ...Welp. See you in six months when you do your Home route

So I still tried to get a funny playful frame going but she wouldnt roll with it again. So I went logistical (oh shit she was leading that..) and didn't just want to ask when she was working so I just dropped the word ice cream to hopefully seed a date. As I said she leaves in 1.5 months to work for an airline in which shell be back here every so often but I don't know what the last text was for. I was trying to pull back a bit and she if she'd chase. No response so far, hasn't been too long but a lot longer than how often we were responding first.