Yep, got in a fight tonight

lol what a bitch I can't believed he poured his beer on you, good choice slammin him

you let him go and he wants more? nock him the f*ck out next time.

Not a good choice meow, I should have kept my temper and handled it differently. I'm not made of sugar. Yes king, once I was in, I should have knocked him out. It was an evening of poor decisions

I was still on the ground when he jumped up and hit me wtf

Pouring beer down your shirt is not okay. You have to draw the line. I would have done the same thing. 

The only mistake you made was giving him the opportunity to hit you when you released him.

I would say you won because everyone watching knows you kept your cool and your buddy is an asshole. You just feel like you lost because you probably suffered some small cosmetic damage while he didn't. 

As a guy who did BJJ for almost three years, the best thing to do in these situations is incapacitate a guy like this. Whether that be with a RNC, ar triangle, etc. They'll wake up in a daze and the last thing that will be on their mind is starting shit. You handled this well on a surface level but there's always a better way.

Patrick, I hear you. And you're certainly right about me fucking up by allowing him to get at me. G I had to look those up and yes, I was probably in good position for a triangle if I'd had the training and know-how. I'm sure I could have choked him out too. I knew the guy a bit and assumed he'd quit, I had his face pressed into the floor by the edge of the heater. He was in deep shit and had to be in some pain, I figured talking to him and letting him out easy would do it but I was foolish.

The guy I train with is a wrestling coach and I've just started doing a bit of wrestling. This incident has inspired me to get on the mat more as well as hit up some of my fighter buddies to explore additional mma training opportunities. I'd just like to have the knowledge and ability to dissolve shit like this quick and clean. I don't really feel like I lost here. 

G, you're absolutely right, incapacitating would be way better than throwing punches. Patrick, I kinda feel like I coulda taken the beer spill better. I feel like its was a pride/ego reaction. I'm sure I could have had the guy ejected from the party and taken the high road or found another non violent resolution. I'm not sure a little beer on the shirt is worth getting violent over

Fuck I would love to train with you guys how fucking dope would that be. Lets hook up for like two weeks of fight/strength training and chasing girls holy shit

The funny thing is once you train and roll regularly, the last thing you want to do is fuck people up ad you actually become SUPER NICE. It's a double edged sword though because sometimes people think they can get away with more around you and that can't be the case. Ego or not, if someone knowing spills beer on my shirt I'm gonna fuck them up.

Of course this could differ greatly in the club or a bar. the environment is aways huge. You should always be cognizant of things like security, girls, their friends, etc. More times than not, these things are not worth it. You'll seem like a badass until you're eating cuffed by the local police then you're just "that douche".

Any ideas why this dude was trying to antagonise you all night?

If some guy I know is annoying me like this I will try to set boundaries wtih him early by saying in a serious tone "look man you need to back off/fuck off, youre starting to get on my nerves". Usually he will get the message and calm down. 

I think the key is trying to defuse the situation before he does something dumb like pour a beer down your shirt. As far as im concerned he crossed the line there and you have no choice but to whip his ass.

I posted this in a thread a few months ago. This dream has come to hold pretty profound meaning for me. I see two distinct sides to my personality, lion/tiger (in the dream). 

I perceive a side of me that's wild, reckless, does whatever the fuck I want, fucks chicks two at a time, is sexy. The black tiger.

I see a side of me that is responsible, disciplined, hard working, diligent, but also kind of impotent and not sexy. The lion.

to put this into context, for those of you who have read my reports from last weekend's little beast off out-of -town away mission, that's an example of the "tiger" unchained. Drunk, belligerent, uninhibited, reckless. All my best reports are somewhat like this. Unfortunately drinking, drugs, smoking etc tend to be part of the equation. This is not sustainable as I am getting older.

i have been working on developing the "lion" side of my personality. As outlined in my other thread "30 day challenge", I'm taking a break from the substances and am disciplining myself to good habits. I went out sober the other nite and sucked, even though I was in a good mood, opened lots, was trying. Girls were treating me like poison. I also had a girl over to my house the other day and didnt close the deal. The lion is a chode.

i realize that this is all in my head, that the responsibility lies with me and not with some fictitious lion or tiger. The problem is I identify very deeply with this idea and the solution will require identity level adjustment.

so to answer your question mark, in my subconscious mind there lies a black tiger, chained and angry, that wanted it to happen. It did and the tiger got fed, took a nap, woke up this morning and fucked the girl in his bed.

Where a outs do you live in canada again Jack? I think I remember you saying BC. there's gotta be some decent gyms up there that are affordable.  I would love to train with some guys on here in the future, I'm gonna start boxing or Muay Thai again once I finish school and start working. I've always been the kind of guy that enjoys getting hit in the face lol.

I did a session of wrestling in my coach-buddies space today. Also spoke on the phone to another buddy who is some kind of mma champion (amateur maybe), he has a gym in his house, lives close by, and is also a really spiritual dude. We have good talks. He and I are going to start training together at his place. He already has some ideas as to which gyms to check out.

edit. Ya, bc interior

When a dude says he's going to fucking kill you you don't let him up. 

Ahh bro I fucking love this.

Canadian woodsman with a whole fucking host of spirit animals.

Had a similar meditation experience with a black fox. It was sprinting, and the world was just changing and transforming behind it like a backdrop. Almost melting together as if on a green screen as it ran- until it reached a completely white, snow-covered landscape, and slowed to a stroll. A confident, almost cocky strut.

Did a little research. Turns out the black fox was considered an evil omen in medieval times. But I could tell this fox was clearly a totem for me. Dug a bit deeper, found that apparently the common red fox's fur in adolescence turns black for a very short period of time. It's almost mythical. Figured the black fox on white snow meant "being in unchartered territory", the black fox isn't camouflaged and safe in the white snow... yet he's still calm and confident. Comfortable. He'll only be black for a short time, it'll precede a period of growth and maturity- and he's clearly moving in the right direction. Knows it.

Anyways, I'm with MW here. Any dude who says he's gonna fucking kill me ain't no buddy of mine.

If the guy was more of a threat to you, knew what he was doing, he could have ended you then and there. Only takes one mistake, and one opening. You're clearly already aware of that though. Good to see it's inspired you to train up again man, it's invaluable.

Ok clearly my biggest mistake was letting him up. You guys seem to be in agreement that the beer move was fight worthy, that's interesting.. 

I got home maybe an hour or so after the incident and almost as soon as I did the dog starts freaking out about something on the deck. There's been a bear trying to fuck with my garbage all week, usually I just slide open the patio door and yell at him. That night I was so pissed off and annoyed that I took off after it like it owed me money lol. Chased it off the deck and it scrambled up an embankment 

I'm curious man why didn't you keep holding him there or hit him before/while he's swinging at you? Seems you went from aggro to "don't swing, bro" mode rather quickly. I don't see how you could have been afraid of fighting this guy. You should have held him down or gone to blows. How long you known this guy for?

The beer down the pants wasn't necessarily fight worthy.I had somebody do that to me a few weeks back. I followed her into the girls bathroom a couple minutes later. It was you that took him down over it. So what threshold were you afraid of crossing?

Probably several reasons, I don't think fear was the prominent one, though having not been in many fights and certainly not for a lot of years I'm sure it was a factor. Mainly I remember having the idea that it had gone too far already and I wanted it to stop. There were several reasons for this: I didn't want to disrespect my buddies space (he's a really sweet dude and had just been talking about the positive energy the space held for him due to the good times they have in there), I didn't want to hurt buddy, and I didn't want to get hurt. As I'm writing this I'm thinking, I just don't want to be in a fist fight. I knew if I let him go I'd run the risk of getting hit, but I also knew he could do limited damage and that the boys would have him off within a swing or two. If I felt like I was in real danger I'm sure it would have been different

You should have whispered in his ear, "Let me blow you instead." 

We'll discuss this on the call tomorrow this has many MANY repercussions and ways of looking at things. 

Dude this may be stupid, but I strongly argue that you need to be willing to throw down if the situation arises. I wouldn't advise anyone to go around and pick fights, but sometimes they need to happen. I'm sure manwhore has had his fair share of fights. Its just part of that warrior identity

I think hittin that guy was a good idea. 

I roll with a lot of guys that have been trained to fight their whole lives, a few are going into the military, and the ability to fight makes them MORE free. These guys don't pick fights for shit, but they defintely can handle shit talking better cuz they know that the worst thing that could happen is they have to fight and they have the tools not to get seriously fucked up.