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So one of my favorite Tinder beauties is an absolutely stunning 17 year old hahahahha. Believe it or not, these younger girls can be difficult as fuck to meet up with. Anyways, I've been banging this girl for 4 weeks now and eachtime i chill with her, I can't wait to see her again lol. I decided to randomly look back at our conversation and holy fuck. It's a miracle that we actually met up. If it was not for my 'text game'. I'll break this fucker down, sure it wasn't completely perfect, but there was some brilliant text reinitation and qualification. I'm going to skip some of it because it gets redunat as fuck.

So we texted for a while after tinder. Then I kinda fucked it up by being a little sexual and not qualifying enough over text. So she didn't respond. I reinitiated a couple days later with

me: I'm so done with this whole 'traffic' thing. Soon they'll be building freeways for me (amazing text for recovering from gay texting that led to no response) 

her: Ahh downtown traffic sucks 

We text some more and then it stalls out again. 

me: Yo how's X Town treating yah!? (reiniating with something simple like this - saving the big guns for later) 

her: Pretty boring actually, just got home not to long ago. How's the city :) 

conversation stalls again

me: It's fine

me: I dont like yur haircut anyway

her: Sorry!!! Yeah wednesday could work 

me: Ah it will have to be a different day. Probably Friday or sumtin

her: Yaaaa probably 

me: K we'll do like badminton and some swimming. Have some good songs loaded up on your phone

her: You're def gonna beat me in the bathing suit competition and what kind of music are you into? :D

me: I like a wide mix of music. Right now I really like 80's new wave lol

me: And I do look pretty fantastic in my Euorpean thong speedo 

her: I'm crossing my fingers you don't like country? And ahhaha yeah I can't really compare to that speedo ;) 

me: Hah i'm fine with some country some I like some not at all

me: Yeah bet u wear one of those one piece bating suits.... So retro

her: Ahahha good good, and no unfortuantely i stick to teh basic bikini, minus the abs 

me: Haha well abs don't even look that sexy on a girl

two days later

me: How's my little hs girl! 

her: Good besides the fact that I have exams coming up and lots work to do how are youu? 

me: Ah yah that's the worst! I haven't wrote an exam in years ;) 

me: I'm prettay great! I hope you're still planning on coming down to toronto Friday ahha

her: Wow must be nice... ANd yeah! I could make my way down (teeth clenching emoji) 

me: Haah not with that emoji you're not. You're meeting up with a O'Bateman, not a fucking Brit (we're both irish lol with simialr last names) 

But that last text was super powerful. I projected that I'm a high value guy and I don't want to hangout with anyone unless they really want to see me, otherwise they can fuck off. This smartened up her behavior). With the really hott girls, I tend to get this behavior close to the meet up. They'll say some bitchy thing and see how I respond. The key is not to put up with it, maintain high value. Once this girl was like "I mean I'll probably show up but I wouldn't hold your breath or anything." Now sure that could have been a joke, but I wanted to hit her hard hahah. So I just said "wow". She quickly apologized and said she would be there 100%. Definitely sets the right dynamic for when you hangout. You want them to be there because they 100% want to be there. You don't want to be aggressively trying to get them to meet up with you regarldess of their behavior. 

her: Hahhaha sorry I'll make sure to be on my best behavior 

me: Yah u best otherwise you'll be going the right way for a spank bottom and I don't care who knows it

her: Aahhahah okay 

me: (Devil Smile emoji). What time did you want to come down to the city tm?

her: I finish school at 1:30 so anytime after that is good 

me: 3 or 4 would be perfect (great way of securing the meet up. Instead of saying 3 or 4 works. Hit it hard with 3 or 4 would be perfect) 

her: Alright sweet I'll aim for thatttt

me: Okay I can pick u up at the (x subway stop) 

her: Ahh okay sounds good 

Friday

me: Hey. Keep me posted on your status

her: Okay just left 

her: Might be closer to 4

me: No problem. Text me when you get into toronto 

This girl, I took to my place, cracked open a cider, talked for 30 minutes, then fucked her. One of my absolute hottest lays. Been fucking this girl for a month, she's absolutely stunning and awesome. 

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Nothing magically special

Nothing magically special here. I was just surpirsed running through the entire text conversation how many times this girl didn't respond or pulled away. By sprinkling in some of these lines, I was able to heat the fire and redeem any shitty texts. The key lines from this are 

1.

me: I'm so done with this whole 'traffic' thing. Soon they'll be building freeways for me (amazing text for recovering from gay texting that led to no response) ]

2. 

 

me: It's fine

me: I dont like yur haircut anyway

3. 

me: Haah not with that emoji you're not. You're meeting up with a O'Bateman, not a fucking Brit (we're both irish lol with simialr last names) 

 

4. 

me: 3 or 4 would be perfect (great way of securing the meet up. Instead of saying 3 or 4 works. Hit it hard with 3 or 4 would be perfect) 

 

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Yeah very solid. It's a way

Yeah very solid. It's a way of forcing her investment. I'm gonna add a couple of these to that section in the book, thx. 

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Thank you for paying me back,

Thank you for paying me back, Bateman. ;) Really appreciate stuff like this 

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It seems like the more

It seems like the more "casual" texting style seems to be working for you on tinder. Along with good reengament texts. Maybe it makes them feel more comfortable (cuz its tinder) opposed to texts that are more "fluffed" up

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Meow wrote:It seems like the

Meow wrote:
It seems like the more "casual" texting style seems to be working for you on tinder. Along with good reengament texts. Maybe it makes them feel more comfortable (cuz its tinder) opposed to texts that are more "fluffed" up

Right... Share some of your tinder conversations..

I want to write a post about this. But yah, you definitely don't want to overdo the fluff factor. I think you just want to stand out above every other guy without being too over the top. When I'm too on or too crazy it almost makes the girl more skeptical about me. I like to tone it down and not do any more work than I have to. Imagine you're texting a girl that your'e indifferent about hanging out with. You're going to communicate more high value behavior. 

As well, you want to make sure she''s just as invested in the interaction as you, if not more. If you feel like she's not giivng you enouhg investment, you have to change that. That's the biggest text mistake I see with newbies that post on these forums or friends. They are essentially telling the girl to treat them like a second banana faggot. The beauty is once you call a girl out or properly deal with bitchy behavior it ramps up their attraction.

The wow text is super powerful. If a girl says something that is uncool. I'll just say, "wow". You're projecting a ton of negativty onto them. And most girls won't be able to handle it and they'll apologize.

This reminds me of a date I recently had. I wasn't feeling too well so I wasn't in the best mood. I hung out with her but she was the one with the higher energy. I was very low key. THis is a super attractive girl and she was so into me haha. If you're hanging out with a girl that you're not that into, you're not going to be in a super high energy state. You'll be very indifferent, laconic. Try doing this with super hott girls. It messes with their head. See how much you can force them to act. The more work they're doing, the more their investing. 

Some of the times when I thought I had the best date ever, I never ended up getting a second meet up. Why? Well because I was investing way too much. I was so into it, I was so on, I was spewing out incredible shit and was convincing as fuck. But I wasn't getting the girl to invest enough. I never pulled away. I never amde her work for me. When I thought I had the worst dates, sometimes the girls absolutely loved it. They wanted me even more.

So whenever you can be super laconic, do it! If you're on a date with a girl, then she's there. She's already hooked. Ramp up attraction, be convincing as fuck, then chill out and pull away. You're the fucking Prince and your parents have forced to hangout with this girl. So you can't really enjoy it at first, because your parents are forcing you to. This sort of mentality causes you to come in with a lot of screening. It gives the girl the chance to win you over. Take this with a big grain of salt. This has worked for me. But for other people that have a different personaltiy as me, this might be the worst advice lol. 

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Yeah great stuff. I read

Yeah great stuff. I read through it and it all clicked when mw said it's a way of forcing investment. Anytime you got stuck in a rut you just hit her with some of those hammers and it literally forces her to reply how you want. The humour/high-value-ness of some of those texts draw her interest back in a way that if she replied with anything else it would be retarded haha. Potent.

what not to do... I burned one or two girls on tinder by using the haircut line before enough investment was built in an attempt to kick start things up again from a lazy text. Derp. Does not work that way lol

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icewahine wrote: Yeah great

icewahine wrote:
Yeah great stuff. I read through it and it all clicked when mw said it's a way of forcing investment. Anytime you got stuck in a rut you just hit her with some of those hammers and it literally forces her to reply how you want. The humour/high-value-ness of some of those texts draw her interest back in a way that if she replied with anything else it would be retarded haha. Potent.

what not to do... I burned one or two girls on tinder by using the haircut line before enough investment was built in an attempt to kick start things up again from a lazy text. Derp. Does not work that way lol

Great point, you definitely want to save the big guns for much later. Another great one is - don't just ignore me, say something loser ;)  

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Manwhore wrote: Thank you for

Manwhore wrote:
Thank you for paying me back, Bateman. ;) Really appreciate stuff like this 

You know it dude ;) 

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Yeah with tinder you have to

Yeah with tinder you have to be really attuned to where they are at. You have no in person interaction and they know why your on there. So the "mistakes" and over investment are kinda amplified. (But there are also pros to that situation aswell)

laid back game works well when she's already hooked. Curious little cats love to swat at things that are playing dead.