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And in the end the reason we have an autism epidemic.. is because docs aren't spanking babies bottoms after being born anymore. And so their senses just haven't been awakened all the way. They have a hard time experiencing reality the way we do. They never received that initial jolt, never crossed that initial hump, never received that initial cardinal compass orientation. Like the defibrillator syncing all the electrical impulses in a single instant to cross that threshold and force the heart to beat.

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It seems that a ton of the

It seems that a ton of the old traditions we throw away turn out to be really important. We stopped giving people cod liver oil. Now most people are deficient in vit D, omega 3 fatty acids, and it looks like vitamin A from animal sources do things plant sources can't. 

These are traditions developed from trial and error for decades by the smartest people in their generation, to the very best of their intuition. 

I'm curious about the slapping of the bottom though. The baby has just spent a couple hours being pushed out of a vagina, would a slap really do more?

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Yep. Out with the new, in

Yep. Out with the new, in with the old.

Not sure how you could equate the child being birthed to it not needing to "experience anything more". It's traumatic for the mother, but not baby. Aside from the umbilical cord getting wrapped around baby's neck or what not, but any sort of compression or tension on the baby's limbs and torso is probably just more of what the baby's used to floating around in the womb in the fetal position. Remember babies like being wrapped up snug exactly because of that. 

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It's a two-fold effect, btw.

It's a two-fold effect, btw. The sensation of being spanked, along with hearing the sound of their own voice wailing. Completes the circuit

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Didn't know that. Helio

Didn't know that. Helio Gracie used to toss his babies. Litterarly toss them and have someone else catch them. There's this photo of this with the most amazing expression on the baby, can't seem to find it atm. I can only imagine what this sparked in his sons. 

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Just think in terms of

Just think in terms of virtual reality, or even dreaming.. where the mind is alive but not actually responding to output from the "physical" world. The baby so far only knows the womb. Is only peripherally conscious of input as "ambient noise" from the outside world. It's never had to respond to it, never had to learn from it or take cue from it. We have to teach it that. By smacking it on the fucking ass. And letting it hear the sound of its own voice in response. This teaches cause and effect, and communication with the outside world. Otherwise it continues to treat its inner world with the same level of focus and emphasis as the outer world. This is what you're seeing/experiencing when you interact with autists. 

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Manwhore wrote:Just think in

Manwhore wrote:
Just think in terms of virtual reality, or even dreaming.. where the mind is alive but not actually responding to output from the "physical" world. The baby so far only knows the womb. Is only peripherally conscious of input as "ambient noise" from the outside world. It's never had to respond to it, never had to learn from it or take cue from it. We have to teach it that. By smacking it on the fucking ass. And letting it hear the sound of its own voice in response. This teaches cause and effect, and communication with the outside world. Otherwise it continues to treat its inner world with the same level of focus and emphasis as the outer world. This is what you're seeing/experiencing when you interact with autists. 

Sorry man but research shows that kids brains are simply not well enough developed at that stage. You can't teach those babies cause and effect cause they can't make those neural connections yet. Babies learn that gradually through experimenting with the outside world when they're actually in it. When they grow older and their brains develop more it's time for them to make those connections and learn that their actions indeed do have an effect on the outside world. Atleast that's what some years of psychology/pedagogy has thought me. But if you have any claims stating otherwise I'm ready to be convinced.

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You're a novice talking about

You're a novice talking about things you barely understand, bud. You certainly can't articulate it very well. We're not talking "logic" or "emotional rationale", or really anything too much to do with the prefrontal cortex. This is the instinctual side of cause & effect, e.g. base survival. This is to do with the amygdala, spinal cord, peripheral nervous system. If you don't sync it and focus it on strong external stimuli and make the cerebral connection with the explosion of sensation as well as sound, it's going to result in a baby locked inside its own head sometimes.  

P.S. I have a degree in Cognitive Science from one of the top universities in the world, have been involved in training and development for almost 19 years now. 

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Essentially they lack

Essentially they lack primitive reflexes because they needed a little extra help getting the process jump started, and it never happened. Like a battery jump or the defibrillator syncing all the errant electrical impulses during cardiac arrest. 

Here's more on it:

https://www.theautismexchange.com/organized-information/therapies/reflex...

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Here's the rest of

Here's the rest of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reticular_formation#Ascending_reticular_ac...

The spank upon birth initially jump starts the ascending reticular activation system, which "is responsible for regulating wakefulness and sleep-wake transitions. The ARAS is a part of the reticular formation and is mostly composed of various nuclei in the thalamus and a number of dopaminergicnoradrenergicserotonergichistaminergiccholinergic, and glutamatergic brain nuclei." 

As stated previously above, they're essentially semi-stuck in a dreamlike state leftover from the womb. 

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Aeuq and I had an in-depth

Aeuq and I had an in-depth discussion about this weeks back. This makes sense, absolutely. But I'm sure it's not confined to just this example. What about ritual circumscion while the boy is still a baby?
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Come to think of it, that's akin to what's described here, except on a deeper level:
http://www.manwhore.org/in-the-way-you-do-anything-you-do-everything/

"Don’t want to push yourself? How ’bout we cut off your foreskin at age 15. How ’bout we shove you out into the wilderness, exiled from your own family, and make you kill a wild animal with your bare hands."
 

Not just showing the boy the loop of cause and effect but forcibly/experientially making him understand how to insert himself into said loop.



I can imagine as the baby develops, if it lacks those painful experiences, it would need greater and greater shocks to jolt it out of it's disconnect with reality. 

Would it be a stretch to say that people going through midlife crises are a result of getting shocked to reality at a very late age?





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This is not some juvenile

This is not some juvenile discussion of "coming of age" rituals. This is not a "spiritual woowoo" debate. They have removed a birthing practice from hospitals that was around for who knows how long, and we are now suffering the consequences of it. 

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Actually yes you're right

Actually yes you're right circumcising the baby definitely would have the same effect. I read that and then forgot about it once I saw your next assertions. I have to be very strict with the presentation of this thread, however that's a great point about circumcision. 

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Understood, I was throwing

Understood, I was throwing shit at the wall but wrote it out as an assertion. I also didn't pause to consider the long term ramifications of the point presented in the original post.

If the premise is that: babies that never received the initial jolt (slap) are left to develop with their senses in an inert state, and therefore experience reality inaccurately (autism)

Would it be a stretch to say that drugs that create a numbing effect i.e. opiates or any other addicitve substance used to numb pain, create an effect similar to that? A deep hypnotic trance that slowly causes the user lose touch with reality. This isn't the exact point of the original post, but the connection I'm trying to make is how important accurate perception of physical sensation is to proper interpretation of reality.