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What's up folks!
 
Crazy stuff went down last night. Long story short I work security/bellman at a hotel. A customer walked into the lobby to complain of a bum yelling obscenities and talking shit about me on our property. I've had to call cops on him in the recent past because he wouldn't leave the property. So ever since he's had heavy resentment towards me, calling me names and saying shit I never acknowledged. 
 
Back to what happened last night: I ran into him into the parking lot and told him to leave. He stood his ground.... started talking smack again, calling me names, etc... Saying he would fight me but didn't want to go to jail. I was like "ok cool we're calling the cops" He skated past me over to the lobby to "complain" and cuss out the front desk girl. I finally caught up to him right after he exited the lobby. Right as we were crossing paths, he taunted me and lunged himself into my personal space (he had a skateboard in his hand). Instinctively, I leaned over to the side then gave him one clean hit on the jaw. He freaked out like a little girl looking around at bystanders for sympathy, he spat blood at the lobby door then called the cops. 
 
At this point it's a civil case and the hotel can't really do anything about it. My manager informed me that the bum intends to charge me with battery which could be a felony (I HIGHLY doubt he will). But then i could lawyer up and fight back with him trying to "incite a fight"?? The only camera present on the hotel property is in the lobby itself so nothing was captured on tape. The cops did take get a witness statement which essentially states that the bum was the one who fucked up.
Advice would be greatly be appreciated

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Sounds like you did nothing

Sounds like you did nothing wrong. What do you mean by bum? Homeless? Or a loser? I haven't seen too many homeless people with a skateboard. Trying to gather the facts about him actually pressing charges. 

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No he can't file a battery

No he can't file a battery charge, you're fine. Does the camera show him coming into the lobby to talk to the girl at the front desk? Is that the witness statement?

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Haha i'm in Southern Cali,

Haha i'm in Southern Cali, and in my town a TON of people skate. He is actually homeless, sleeps in his beat up car with 2 dogs.

I did get a witness statement which puts him in the wrong. The hotel has just one camera, which in the lobby and only livestreams i believe (ill double check). I find it super weird that there are not cameras everywhere it's a 3-4 star hotel branch so big, all of you would know it....

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A criminal charge will have

A criminal charge such as a felony will have to be served by a police officer and go through the City/County Prosecutor who then decides whether it's prosecutable. (which it doesn't seem so). Even if it DID go to a trial (which it won't) a trained attourney would ream this kid seven ways till sunday during cross-examination. Civil is a different animal... it's a matter between you and him (as opposed to you vs the state in criminal)... So he has to prove three things 1) that DAMAGE was caused to him 2) That YOU caused it 3)  That the damage can be "redressed."

The thing is, civil action is a tricky, complicated process. There are lots of "tripping hazards." So even if he has a good lawyer (which it sounds like he can't afford) it's highly likely it's gonna screw it up.

I wrote all this to give you a rough idea of how it all works... but long story short: He's bluffing and trying to scare you. He's got nothing.

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...btw your hotel-manager is

...btw your hotel-manager is being a fucking dick for pulling that shit on you. In his case he's playing CYA at your expense.

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Yeah the police have to

Yeah the police have to decide if it's even worth showing to the DA and believe me they've already decided it ain't, lol. For a civil case this hobo's got to fill out a bunch of paperwork and pay some fees. That won't happen, and no lawyer will pony up with a "you don't pay unless we win!" type deal on such a crock of shit. 

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^^^You are a smart

^^^You are a smart muthafucka, my fine-feathered friend. On a larger scale, law is a "political game." The court system is an entity that exists unto itself... It will only do things in it's own interest, to ensure it's own existence. For example, pursuing "justice" in the name of a hobo, who was trespassing on private property, and threatened an employee of the property...

The overriding objective of the DA is to win cases. That's what he gets elected for. If he/she sees a case they can't win in front of a jury they won't pursue it.

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But at the same time to the

But at the same time to the OP: What could we have done to pre-emp and avoid all of this negativity?