Amazing teleconference fellas. #2 is in the books!
Great call, great participation.
Post up any notes or questions you guys have about it.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
That was fun! Jack Ruby, thanks for the 3sum insights!
Archangel from what I can tell you have better logistics and frankly probably better game than I do. If you're not having threesomes something's not quite right in the world from what I see lol. I would encourage you, gmoney, darkrain, bateman, probably infinity and meow and whoever else wants to get at it... to throw up your own "operation threesome" thread. Start with a write-up, update it with field notes and lets solve this shit. I'm here to tell you its no big deal
I was doing some homework and had connection issues, so I was just lurkin a lil bit. From what I heard the call went great, and skype defintely got the job done.
I enjoyed hearing about evil stifler, because from what I've heard about him on RSD, I don't (didn't) respect him. I know similar guys that basically devote their life to getting pussy, and I just don't like it. I think i'm immature and judgmental about it because I work so hard on all aspects of my life, and sometimes don't have the time or energy to be chattin up hos. Manwhore helped me realize that this judgemental attitude is useless, and is a low value characteristic. It was cool to hear that MW actually gets along with evil stifler quite well, even tho MW ls a "standard" guy and Stfiler is not.
Archangel from what I can tell you have better logistics and frankly probably better game than I do. If you're not having threesomes something's not quite right in the world from what I see lol. I would encourage you, gmoney, darkrain, bateman, probably infinity and meow and whoever else wants to get at it... to throw up your own "operation threesome" thread. Start with a write-up, update it with field notes and lets solve this shit. I'm here to tell you its no big deal
DUDE FUCK I can't believe I never shared my possible threesome story from my freshman year in highschool (yes), it is absolutely bizzare, and was what drove me to start reading about pickup.
Hopefully i can share it next conference call in a bit more detail, but long-story-short two of the hottest chicks in my school were in my bed (one was topless I believe) and I was too pussy to make anything go down. It was humiliating, I got made fun of by everyone and my game was RUINED.
so yeah, threesome is a major benchmark for me
I was actually just relating some of the stuff you experienced in high school to tommyboy, who still needs to step up and go after this shit.. rather than succumbing to fear and the thought of being embarrassed. Ya just gotta get it done. The fact you expeienced this so early in high school was an amazing thing Meow.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I was literally crying during the threesomes bit, the second time i banged the girl i was talking about her roommate was home! HER FEMALE ROOMMATE WAS HOME! And i didn't even so much as stick my head in the door.. This is what happens when you let women lead.
hahah biggest regret of 2014 but thanks for the insights. wanted to summarize up what I talked about, sorry if I was sounded off, I was cold as fuck and im still making sense of what happened in my own skull.
but yeah, so for whatever reason I was thrown off my centre. Just bitched smacked by life off my purpose. This had reprocussions in all areas of my life including my relationship. I guess from the outside it was still an "average" relationship but my woman was NOT happy. She had a lot of power over my emotions which isn't good for anyone. I emailed MW a cry for help, it was gay, I was really thrown off by this stuff. We only chatted quick but boiled down his advice was 1) your fucking up 2) do what you want (on what to do and how to fix or whether to fix the relationship).
So, I let things settle in my brain quick. I had a big change. I simply did not give a fuck anymore to get caught up in any drama or emotions, I finally internalized that I cant rely on anyone else to bring me happiness.
Instead of maybe saying some emotionally charged, weak, egotistic stuff to my girl - I sat her down, talked to her neutrally, corrected her, said ok its done now fuck it, and we had wicked sex. It was a start but I still wasnt fully back in it. I thought it was still kinda fucked up to be with another girl but I hit bottom and with the new realizations, or more, I thought I would feel fucked up over it. But I carried on with what needed to be done.
First girl I met I had a great time with but couldn't pull the trigger (see the thread where I didn't pull my dick out... scroll past the first mega post) and I still wasnt fully centered with her so no wonder I didn't close. Before I met her and throughout the date I had some chode thoughts pop into my head. Wondering what she'd think of me, etc. Second date though I was much more grounded and had sex with her within 15 minutes and she wasn't expecting or looking for it. the first girl WAS expecting sex but I just wasnt man enough to give it to her.
Holy shit boys, I think I understated this in the call but the difference between the past few days and the past few months is SO different. Even outside my girl, I feel so much more grounded, so much more confident, much more... myself. Its not something all big and bad I don't feel like Don Draper (actually I kinda do) but I must feel like my natural normal self. This has already begun to leak into all areas of my life, allowing me to take action on things I needed to. I can't even describe how much of an effect it has had. Unreal, wish I could articulate it better cause I still feel like Im understating it lol.
Again, I haven't seen my girl since (this is all real recent) but the effects on our banter, my leading and everything has been so clear already. I am the man, I can lead and give her what she needs and wants.
I was literally crying during the threesomes bit, the second time i banged the girl i was talking about her roommate was home! HER FEMALE ROOMMATE WAS HOME! And i didn't even so much as stick my head in the door.. This is what happens when you let women lead.hahah biggest regret of 2014 but thanks for the insights. wanted to summarize up what I talked about, sorry if I was sounded off, I was cold as fuck and im still making sense of what happened in my own skull.
but yeah, so for whatever reason I was thrown off my centre. Just bitched smacked by life off my purpose. This had reprocussions in all areas of my life including my relationship. I guess from the outside it was still an "average" relationship but my woman was NOT happy. She had a lot of power over my emotions which isn't good for anyone. I emailed MW a cry for help, it was gay, I was really thrown off by this stuff. We only chatted quick but boiled down his advice was 1) your fucking up 2) do what you want (on what to do and how to fix or whether to fix the relationship).
So, I let things settle in my brain quick. I had a big change. I simply did not give a fuck anymore to get caught up in any drama or emotions, I finally internalized that I cant rely on anyone else to bring me happiness.
Instead of maybe saying some emotionally charged, weak, egotistic stuff to my girl - I sat her down, talked to her neutrally, corrected her, said ok its done now fuck it, and we had wicked sex. It was a start but I still wasnt fully back in it. I thought it was still kinda fucked up to be with another girl but I hit bottom and with the new realizations, or more, I thought I would feel fucked up over it. But I carried on with what needed to be done.
First girl I met I had a great time with but couldn't pull the trigger (see the thread where I didn't pull my dick out... scroll past the first mega post) and I still wasnt fully centered with her so no wonder I didn't close. Before I met her and throughout the date I had some chode thoughts pop into my head. Wondering what she'd think of me, etc. Second date though I was much more grounded and had sex with her within 15 minutes and she wasn't expecting or looking for it. the first girl WAS expecting sex but I just wasnt man enough to give it to her.
Holy shit boys, I think I understated this in the call but the difference between the past few days and the past few months is SO different. Even outside my girl, I feel so much more grounded, so much more confident, much more... myself. Its not something all big and bad I don't feel like Don Draper (actually I kinda do) but I must feel like my natural normal self. This has already begun to leak into all areas of my life, allowing me to take action on things I needed to. I can't even describe how much of an effect it has had. Unreal, wish I could articulate it better cause I still feel like Im understating it lol.
Again, I haven't seen my girl since (this is all real recent) but the effects on our banter, my leading and everything has been so clear already. I am the man, I can lead and give her what she needs and wants.
Yeah I enjoyed hearing your experiences with this.
I have gone through several moments in the recent past where I'm like "Fuck, should I be doing this to my girl?" Feeling bad after banging another chick, etc.
What Jon said on the call really resonated with me: "Guys need to fuck other girls in a relationship because it keeps them on their game. Otherwise they would just be off their face..." THIS IS SO TRUE.
If you can't fuck a random girl that wants your dick, what makes you think you can be an amazing person in a relationship?
I have just never heard it reframed that way but that definitely made something click. I'm not gonna turn into a huge pussy hound now by any means, but sometimes you just gotta fuck some strange ;)
Part of me improving the past year has been stopping letting other people dictate my reality. I would do things because I was "supposed" to or "forced" into it. Cutting away from those ties and doing what I really want has been HUGE for my growth. And lord knows I have wanted to do the above but was dampening parts of myself for others. Thats fucked up and should never happen.
That's pretty cool Ice.
Btw I'm listening to the call I can hear me chowing down my eggs 'n bacon during the call lol.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I thought that was you lol. Also, did I hear you say you once pulled with a dump in your pants?
It was a light light shart. Light. And I changed my undergarments before I got the girl alone
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
icewahine wrote:
I was literally crying during the threesomes bit, the second time i banged the girl i was talking about her roommate was home! HER FEMALE ROOMMATE WAS HOME! And i didn't even so much as stick my head in the door.. This is what happens when you let women lead.hahah biggest regret of 2014 but thanks for the insights. wanted to summarize up what I talked about, sorry if I was sounded off, I was cold as fuck and im still making sense of what happened in my own skull.
but yeah, so for whatever reason I was thrown off my centre. Just bitched smacked by life off my purpose. This had reprocussions in all areas of my life including my relationship. I guess from the outside it was still an "average" relationship but my woman was NOT happy. She had a lot of power over my emotions which isn't good for anyone. I emailed MW a cry for help, it was gay, I was really thrown off by this stuff. We only chatted quick but boiled down his advice was 1) your fucking up 2) do what you want (on what to do and how to fix or whether to fix the relationship).
So, I let things settle in my brain quick. I had a big change. I simply did not give a fuck anymore to get caught up in any drama or emotions, I finally internalized that I cant rely on anyone else to bring me happiness.
Instead of maybe saying some emotionally charged, weak, egotistic stuff to my girl - I sat her down, talked to her neutrally, corrected her, said ok its done now fuck it, and we had wicked sex. It was a start but I still wasnt fully back in it. I thought it was still kinda fucked up to be with another girl but I hit bottom and with the new realizations, or more, I thought I would feel fucked up over it. But I carried on with what needed to be done.
First girl I met I had a great time with but couldn't pull the trigger (see the thread where I didn't pull my dick out... scroll past the first mega post) and I still wasnt fully centered with her so no wonder I didn't close. Before I met her and throughout the date I had some chode thoughts pop into my head. Wondering what she'd think of me, etc. Second date though I was much more grounded and had sex with her within 15 minutes and she wasn't expecting or looking for it. the first girl WAS expecting sex but I just wasnt man enough to give it to her.
Holy shit boys, I think I understated this in the call but the difference between the past few days and the past few months is SO different. Even outside my girl, I feel so much more grounded, so much more confident, much more... myself. Its not something all big and bad I don't feel like Don Draper (actually I kinda do) but I must feel like my natural normal self. This has already begun to leak into all areas of my life, allowing me to take action on things I needed to. I can't even describe how much of an effect it has had. Unreal, wish I could articulate it better cause I still feel like Im understating it lol.
Again, I haven't seen my girl since (this is all real recent) but the effects on our banter, my leading and everything has been so clear already. I am the man, I can lead and give her what she needs and wants.
Yeah I enjoyed hearing your experiences with this.
I have gone through several moments in the recent past where I'm like "Fuck, should I be doing this to my girl?" Feeling bad after banging another chick, etc.
What Jon said on the call really resonated with me: "Guys need to fuck other girls in a relationship because it keeps them on their game. Otherwise they would just be off their face..." THIS IS SO TRUE.
If you can't fuck a random girl that wants your dick, what makes you think you can be an amazing person in a relationship?
I have just never heard it reframed that way but that definitely made something click. I'm not gonna turn into a huge pussy hound now by any means, but sometimes you just gotta fuck some strange ;)
Wait what is MW's quote saying? Can you explain it a bit more?
Otherwise they would just be off their face...?
Is he saying that you should keep fucking girls if you're in a relationship because it keeps you sharp.
Also fuck, so pissed I missed this
I thought that was you lol. Also, did I hear you say you once pulled with a dump in your pants?
Hahahahaha fuck I died from laughter reading that. Even if it isn't true.
G-Money wrote:
icewahine wrote:
I was literally crying during the threesomes bit, the second time i banged the girl i was talking about her roommate was home! HER FEMALE ROOMMATE WAS HOME! And i didn't even so much as stick my head in the door.. This is what happens when you let women lead.hahah biggest regret of 2014 but thanks for the insights. wanted to summarize up what I talked about, sorry if I was sounded off, I was cold as fuck and im still making sense of what happened in my own skull.
but yeah, so for whatever reason I was thrown off my centre. Just bitched smacked by life off my purpose. This had reprocussions in all areas of my life including my relationship. I guess from the outside it was still an "average" relationship but my woman was NOT happy. She had a lot of power over my emotions which isn't good for anyone. I emailed MW a cry for help, it was gay, I was really thrown off by this stuff. We only chatted quick but boiled down his advice was 1) your fucking up 2) do what you want (on what to do and how to fix or whether to fix the relationship).
So, I let things settle in my brain quick. I had a big change. I simply did not give a fuck anymore to get caught up in any drama or emotions, I finally internalized that I cant rely on anyone else to bring me happiness.
Instead of maybe saying some emotionally charged, weak, egotistic stuff to my girl - I sat her down, talked to her neutrally, corrected her, said ok its done now fuck it, and we had wicked sex. It was a start but I still wasnt fully back in it. I thought it was still kinda fucked up to be with another girl but I hit bottom and with the new realizations, or more, I thought I would feel fucked up over it. But I carried on with what needed to be done.
First girl I met I had a great time with but couldn't pull the trigger (see the thread where I didn't pull my dick out... scroll past the first mega post) and I still wasnt fully centered with her so no wonder I didn't close. Before I met her and throughout the date I had some chode thoughts pop into my head. Wondering what she'd think of me, etc. Second date though I was much more grounded and had sex with her within 15 minutes and she wasn't expecting or looking for it. the first girl WAS expecting sex but I just wasnt man enough to give it to her.
Holy shit boys, I think I understated this in the call but the difference between the past few days and the past few months is SO different. Even outside my girl, I feel so much more grounded, so much more confident, much more... myself. Its not something all big and bad I don't feel like Don Draper (actually I kinda do) but I must feel like my natural normal self. This has already begun to leak into all areas of my life, allowing me to take action on things I needed to. I can't even describe how much of an effect it has had. Unreal, wish I could articulate it better cause I still feel like Im understating it lol.
Again, I haven't seen my girl since (this is all real recent) but the effects on our banter, my leading and everything has been so clear already. I am the man, I can lead and give her what she needs and wants.
Yeah I enjoyed hearing your experiences with this.
I have gone through several moments in the recent past where I'm like "Fuck, should I be doing this to my girl?" Feeling bad after banging another chick, etc.
What Jon said on the call really resonated with me: "Guys need to fuck other girls in a relationship because it keeps them on their game. Otherwise they would just be off their face..." THIS IS SO TRUE.
If you can't fuck a random girl that wants your dick, what makes you think you can be an amazing person in a relationship?
I have just never heard it reframed that way but that definitely made something click. I'm not gonna turn into a huge pussy hound now by any means, but sometimes you just gotta fuck some strange ;)
Wait what is MW's quote saying? Can you explain it a bit more?
Otherwise they would just be off their face...?
Is he saying that you should keep fucking girls if you're in a relationship because it keeps you sharp.
YES, and it keeps her into you, especially if she's super high value.
This call was tight, appreciate MW and Jack going into some detail about the threesomes thing. Hopefully I won't be as wasted next time (Manchester City raped United and celebration was in order)
This call was tight, appreciate MW and Jack going into some detail about the threesomes thing. Hopefully I won't be as wasted next time (Manchester City raped United and celebration was in order)
I'm reading everything you post in a British accent.
Also, as a Chelsea fan, I love seeing Man U's descent into one of the worst teams in the league. Looks like we'll be duking it out for top of the table this year
Wait what is MW's quote saying? Can you explain it a bit more?Otherwise they would just be off their face...?
Is he saying that you should keep fucking girls if you're in a relationship because it keeps you sharp.
Yes, that's exactly what he was saying. I wholeheartedly agree, I just never thought of it that way. For me, I laways hesitated or felt remorse when I had sex with another girl that wasn't my primary but the truth of the matter is, it probably allowed me to be more dominant, grounded, and ultimately present around her.
Did I ever pull a sexy Japanese girl home with one of my girls last nite, dear god
Guys I really like this whole perspective on the relationship manner.
So what I'm hearing is that to be the best possible boyfriend you need to be going out and pulling girls every now and again.
If you aren't doing that then you become too soft and reactive with your girlfriend and too dependent on her.
Makes complete fucking sense to me!!!!
Because after coaching with manwhore I coudln't imagine a life where I could only be with one girl and wouldn't be able to fuckign hunt and approach, make out and have incredible nights with hott girls. I think a lot of guys fucking hate that. They hate approaching girls and tryign to pull so when they are in a relationship it's so much comfort becuase it justifies there pussyness not to have to actively pursue other girls and therefore face their own ego's fear or rejection, fear of standing out, fear of taking charge...
^ its really a simple, primal concept. It's like the difference between being a lion at the zoo and a lion who hunts. It's the look in the eyes, the wild, ferocious nature, logically she thinks she wants to see it tamed but...
So is the call going to happen routinely? If so, when?
Had no idea there was gonna be second call. Had to miss the first.
Ugh. Sad I missed it. Doing another one next week?
Yep every week same time till I get sick of doing them :)
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male