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I remember Manwhore mentioning something about how ever since he was a kid he was "comfortable with sucking", wether it be with ladies or sports, he never was shameful about being a beginner, newb, or down right clueless.

In this community we strive to be leaders in just about every situation thats allows us to be. However, I'm left wondering...when is it appropiate to simply accept that you are not in your realm of leadership? For example, I take an American History class in which we have lots of political debates. Politics aren't my shit, I am clueless when it comes to consitituional amendments, presidents,etc. Despite my lack of knowledge and passion, I still try to lead debates, because I want to be a LEADER in life

Naturally I fuckin suck at these debates. I get crushed by other students that take AP politics classes and what not, and my teacher (who can be a bit obnoxious and critical) pretty much points out everytime I fuck up and make an illogical point. I am starting to feel like this just isn't my place to lead, because it is just not my area of expertise. I'm not gonna get butthurt about it, but it's not fun getting AMOGed over a debate lol. I'm sure similar situations like this arise in the business community and professional careers, and I'm wondering how you guys handle this?

When is it okay to chill back and not be a leader? After all trying to lead EVERYTHING seems a bit egotistical 

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Being comfortable at sucking

Being comfortable at sucking and wanting to lead are two different concepts. Failure or making a mistake isn't a reflection of your identity its just a failure in a action you take.

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Not accepting a leadership

Not accepting a leadership role is a personal choice you have to make.

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Humans are not mistakes they

Humans are not mistakes they just make them.

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^^^ yup thats how I see it.

^^^ yup thats how I see it. Would you rather be right and in charge or effective.

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Dude. Become informed. What

Dude. Become informed. What the hell lol. I only open my mouth when I know what's up. Otherwise it's just idiotic. If I'm involved with something then it's my job to become educated on it. You're going off half-assed it's fun to read about :) 

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Manwhore wrote: Dude. Become

Manwhore wrote:
Dude. Become informed. What the hell lol. I only open my mouth when I know what's up. Otherwise it's just idiotic. If I'm involved with something then it's my job to become educated on it. You're going off half-assed it's fun to read about :) 

lol it feels idiotic! and I truly try to become informed, I'm just sucking it up in these debates. My vocals skills and everything become trash,  and I start to feel like a little chode. I'm just becoming concious of how heavily situations like this actually affect my inner game. 

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Dude, you're SO conflicted

Dude, you're SO conflicted right here and you don't even know it..

Also - I'm curious what you think it means to eb a leader

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pottedflowers wrote: Dude,

pottedflowers wrote:
Dude, you're SO conflicted right here and you don't even know it..

Also - I'm curious what you think it means to eb a leader

I'm starting to realize that. The situation that I wrote about it is one big rationalization. I don't need to be comfortable at sucking or decide not to lead in these debates, I actually need to get my shit together and take control of these motherfuckers. And I do need to keep my mouth shut when i'm clueless lol, cuz thats not leader like.

I'd say leading in this situation would be about introducing my own arguments, building off of others, and sometimes agreeing with the opposition...while still framing the argument in a way that makes my option seem the best.

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I automaticly lead most

I automaticly lead most debates because thats just how i am, but i never try to lead. Trying to lead seems like some weird ego shit to me. If i dont know shit then i encourage others to talk more and i also question their opinions so that they can explain better. By doing that you can actually learn from them. Its not a fucking competition dude.

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Cholo wrote: I automaticly

Cholo wrote:
I automaticly lead most debates because thats just how i am, but i never try to lead. Trying to lead seems like some weird ego shit to me. If i dont know shit then i encourage others to talk more and i also question their opinions so that they can explain better. By doing that you can actually learn from them. Its not a fucking competition dude.

yeah. I do  tend to not listen close enough to what others are saying, probably because im too concerned about myself. Thats kinda dumb and probably why my conversations points seem a bit uncalibrated