Cold approaching sticking points
What's up guys?
I've been deep in the country side the last month so haven't been gaming chicks during this time haha.
I'm back home now though and trying to work on some shit. Last semester was a pretty shitty. I was mentally exhausted and injuried and my game sucked more than ever but thankfully i had a big social circle i could rely on but i was drinking way too much. In the end of the semester i had some pretty good results with girls though but mostly from online game and social circle. My cold approach game has definitely declined alot. I also threw alot of big parties which helped.
I've started meditating now and also quit drinking and feeling much better. I've gone out sober 3 times now.
First and second night i basically just approached a few girls and my game was pretty weak but i got some momentum going.
Third night: I was approached more girls this night and made out with a chick that i met in line. I was more confident than the two first nights and i got a deeper voice and stronger eye contact. I noticed i was just saying anything with a breaking rapport tonality. But i think i wasn't being challenging enough.
I would talk to chicks for like 15 min and then she's like "i gotta go to my friends". So that's something i need to work on. I think i have a pretty good approach (well i never got blown out or ignored so far) but it's mostly keeping the girls around. I should move chicks around more but all these girls are with huge groups of friends that they don't want to leave. I used to be like "let's get a drink" but as i said i've quit drinking (or paying for my own drinks) now so i can't do that. I should lead alot more without waiting for IOI's but these are still college clubs so i didn't want to be too aggressive. Maybe i should be more physical from the start so i can screen girls that aren't DTF? How quick do you guys usually go for the makeout?
I will be go out sober and solo again tonight. Do you have any practical advice for tonight?
Being physical doesn't have to be going for the makeout. I would focus on building momentum early on in the night and talking with everyone. You'll be able tell pretty quick which girls are down and cool vs. the ones who suck.
Just st because you can't drink doesn't mean you can't isolate or pull the girl. Play pool, darts, bar games, people watch, etc.
Your game sounds like it's fucking awful. Fix that
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Lol yeah i'm trying to fix it that's why i'm going out to talk to all these chicks.
I do alright when i drink, for example in june i pulled a new chick every week but i'm still getting used to being 100% sober.
I used to go out sober and was pretty good at it before i got fucked up last semester. I'm happy with my progress in these 3 days to be honest and i'm always having fun with these chicks. I could just go out and drunk and pull a girl but fuck that shit.
Being physical doesn't have to be going for the makeout. I would focus on building momentum early on in the night and talking with everyone. You'll be able tell pretty quick which girls are down and cool vs. the ones who suck.Just st because you can't drink doesn't mean you can't isolate or pull the girl. Play pool, darts, bar games, people watch, etc.
That's kinda what i did yesterday. As soon as i was in the line i was talking to girls and made out with one of them when i met her later. Will try to talk to even more chicks tonight! :)
So what changes about your personality or game when you're drunk vs. sober?
The problem is i developed a "drunk personality" so i basically i became used to gaming when drunk but kinda forgot how to when sober. I didn't get super drunk though.
The first two nights i was just a bit shy to approach but it also had to do with not going out for a month. Third night i was approaching left and right but still a bit "stifled" and less cocky. Less aggressive and less physical.
I guess nobody really cares but i'll try to keep track on my progress here.
Couldn't go to the club yesterday because i wasn't on the guest list.
I went out sober and solo tonight. Immediately started talking to people on the way there and in the line. Once inside i met people that i know so hung out with them a bit before going to approach chicks. I got a couple numbers and then i met a friend who supposedly knew of a big afterparty and alot of girls were heading there. I still fucked up in the end though lol. I had to take care of a drunk female friend first and help her get home, and then when i was heading to the party my phone died, and the party turned out to be dead. Couldn't hit up any of the girls i talked to earlier.
Most of the girls i talked to were girls outside of the dancefloor. In a latin club or in a hip hop i find it easy to just start dancing with a chick, but all these clubs are super high energy house music and everyone is just very drunk, while i'm more sober and laid back. Just read this post by ozzie for dance game.
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/60153
Notes to self:
Get more numbers
work on dancefloor game too
Don't fuck up logistics
Hey man I think it's cool that you're doing all this - I wouldn't treat a lack of response as people not caring necessarily. I got my pomp Pomps out fosho lol
Couple questions:
1. How do you feel when you're not talking to anyone?
2. How does it feel when you first touch the girl?
3. Can you describe how the eye contact you make with a girl feels and maybe just describe that moment a little bit?
As much or as little detail as you have. Being aggressive isn't natural for me so I'm curious how others relate to this kind of stuff.
Hey man I think it's cool that you're doing all this - I wouldn't treat a lack of response as people not caring necessarily. I got my pomp Pomps out fosho lol Couple questions: 1. How do you feel when you're not talking to anyone? 2. How does it feel when you first touch the girl? 3. Can you describe how the eye contact you make with a girl feels and maybe just describe that moment a little bit? As much or as little detail as you have. Being aggressive isn't natural for me so I'm curious how others relate to this kind of stuff.
1. I don't know, i was always talking to people. Only time i wasn't talking was when i was looking for cute girls or while dancing at the dancefloor. A couple of months ago i would probably just have bought a drink to help me approach lol. Stupid as fuck.
2. I get very physical when i drink but it's less natural now when sober. When i first hug her or put my arm around her it feels good lol. If they react well i do more shit, otherwise back off.
3. Eye contact: Depends on the girl. Some girls are boring and say dumb shit so i'm just like yeah and look away and then change subject. If i like the girl it feels good when you both have good eye contact. Like not only normal casual eye contact but some intense eye contact.
I'm not the most aggressive guy out there though
What does"good" mean in these examples?
Yeah maybe aggressive is the wrong word. But you're gettin our there and doin it so that's coo.
I think if you focus on this stuff your experience going out and not drinking as much may be a lot different and you'll relate to women in a way they actually enjoy. Up to you tho
What does"good" mean in these examples? Yeah maybe aggressive is the wrong word. But you're gettin our there and doin it so that's coo. I think if you focus on this stuff your experience going out and not drinking as much may be a lot different and you'll relate to women in a way they actually enjoy. Up to you tho
Hard to explain, just a good feeling. Enjoying the moment.
Lol girls enjoy my company. I'm a cool funny guy but they aren't exactly jumping on my dick because of that. I need to become better at escalating. Yeah i'm definitely going to keep up with this :)