College Girl - She only likes me when she's drunk

This is pretty normal dude. The fact you're trying to look for some sort of emotional validation from the girl e.g. she "likes" you is the same emotional crap I see from you over and over again. This should never have even been a conversation

whats the problem here? fuck her right in the pussy

The issue here is everytime I invite her out she's sober and won't come unless her friends tag along which they never do. What should I do in this situation? I know it's clearly on regardless of what she's saying sober. She def seems into it drunk.

Having a party tonight, going to try inviting her out as well as her friends

Update - They have plans tonight but are down to come chill another time. Still think these girls are ridiculously flakey though

Who CARES. If a girl's flakey that's a personality flaw. Next time she's drunk and hitting you up just handle it. You need to seriously ask yourself why you're chasing her when she's flakey but not handling it when she's apparently drunk and coming onto you. Derp 

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You're right. I'm clearly doing it backwards. Shouldn't be chasing the flakiness and next time she hits me up I need to capitalize on it. They'll be over next time we throw a party. I'll get it done then.

I do have a question though, what should I make of this whole "just friends" thing? How would you calibrate escalating if she raises that point when we are together next, as LMR, I suppose. For example, I go for the makeout or something and she pulls away.

That's her way of repelling your faggotry. I mean it's UNREAL that you would somehow think that having a "conversation" is what creates a relationship with a girl *GAG ME* Shoot first, ask questions later. You escalate and fuck, you can talk later. Ask for forgiveness not permission, motherfucker. 

Holy shit, you're so right. I have noticed something in particular lately, that I have this weird thought that if you talk to girls often, just build on attraction, push-pull, etc. That's how feelings develop and you go into a relarelationship from there. I mean, that's the way I did it before I found about game since I only turned 20 not too long ago and that's how most relationships worked as a kid. Now I've noticed that the initial physical interaction dictates where things go.

So essentially what you're saying to me is if I want this chick, I've got to game the fuck out of her and then fuck her, none of this talking to build a relationship thing. The physical interaction is her way of saying she likes you. After that happens, then you can dictate where to take things.

And basically the whole "just friends" thing is her repelling my chodeyness and me lowering myself to the point where she has more value. So the way I'd get around that is show I'm of value by acting like it, be a fucking man next time I see her and get shit done. Then there goes that "just friends" notion.

Woah... I think I completely understood what you were trying to say.

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Ya.. I definitely got it

LOL

It's funny, over the past 2 months, I had a similar situation.  I fucked this chick like 4-5 times when we were both hammered, and then I hit her up one time to grab dinner, and we did that, and then she stopped textin me//responding for prob 3-4 weeks. 

Then she gets hammered and hits me up, and I'm like, word I get it- let's just bang it out..... Like this chick made it very clear she just wants to bone, and I'm totally coo with that. So now I never hit her up sober, and don't even trip or spend even ONE SECOND thinking about her. She hits me up when she's drunk, and if I'm free and feel like it, we bang. That's it. Simple. Is what it is.

You got a great thing here if you can just stop trying to controllll it. 

BE LIKE WATER 

Control/validation.. this is where Tolle talks about "power over others is weakness disguised as strength." Plus Grappler needs to trim his beaver dam 

You guys are so right, next time she hits me up drunk I'm going to just try to do whatever I can to make it happen. I know my game will be on point. The only difference before was that weird notion that I had where I thought I had to talk my way into getting them to like me/want a relationship. Where in reality, I actually have to bone this chick to make any sort of situation happen afterwards. I'm not going to bother messaging her, I'll wait for a drunken night on her part.. As long as she doesn't message me randomly with "friend type" shit. Haha

Yeah man, you've got it now.

Who cares if she likes you? Like think of it this way: If you don't bone her... she's not gonna like you. Andddd if you bone her, she's probably still not gonna like you.

You see whether you bone her or not, she's not gonna like you - so you may as well bone her.... and don't develop an ego around this. Like it has nothing to do with you. It's totally arbitrary. 

And what's cool about this, is that by letting go of control, and just accepting that she's not gonna like you, and banging her regardless.... There's the roundabout chance that she will end up liking you haha life can be crazy my man

Man,

That's so crazy how the whole "freedom of outcome" thing works to your advantage when it's real and genuine as opposed to faked. Like it doesn't matter if this chick is super nice to you or whatever because the physical interaction is what dictates it all. Prior to the physical interaction, she could literally say she loves you, then change her mind the next day..  Truthfully I'm going to separate myself from this girl in terms of taking her seriously and caring too much, especially since she's already verabally turned the idea of us ever dating down...even though that doesn't really mean anything. I'll just take it as it comes and accept it. I used to genuinely think girl's would only have sex with you if they like you or are attracted. Lately, I'm seeing it's all about the game you have and whether you sack up and get shit done.

As a side note...I guess in a sense, once you have sex with a chick she has technically given up all her power, by having sex with you and that's how relationships(fuck buddies, dating, etc.) have the option of starting, you are in a position of power and you really can dictate the next steps because of the fact she's given you everything she essentially has to offer as a women. Not meaning that in a sexist/putting women down way, but I've heard this somewhere but can't remember where. I'm not sure if I'm understanding that whole power switch dynamic correctly.. but I'm starting to think that's how it works.

Mang that's massive scarcity. You're seeing this from your own scarcity and then projecting the same onto her, e.g. the fact you're seeing this as "taking her seriously and caring too much" which is just looking to fill your validation hole with a girl, and she's lost all her value once she bangs you. That's rotten to the core

I didn't mean she would have no value anymore persay, it just came out wrong. I just find myself attaching myself to it too much and I'm trying to find a way of viewing this as something where if it happens cool, if not, whatever. I mean, she'd still be a human being and I'd treat her as such afterwards if we did hook up. I'm just trying to find a way to look at it from the right mind set to approach this situation. 

And, yeah I know what to do at this point but the mindset I should have is what's throwing me off..If that makes any sense? 

Yeah I've been made super aware of this problem the last few days, as I posted about earlier on the forum ;). I'm throwing a vid together on this in the next few days. 

Sick I'll definitely be on the lookout for that.

Seems like I've got the outter game down since it works well for me and quite easily but when it comes to the mindset you should always have, plus the inner game stuff.. Completely lost ahaha.

I'll keep this thread updated in case that girl hits me up at all anytime soon. I don't think it's best for me to chase her as it goes no where.

Been freezing this girl out and not giving her any attention/chasing and she's starting to act up lol (emotional status updates, liking all my photos, snap chats, etc.). It's weird, but as soon as I stopped caring so much it's like it hit a switch in her head or something....Going to go ahead and get that powerback as soon as I can, should I ignore text messages from her as well? 

Just curious as to how I should go about flipping the script on a chick who's got all the power (threw me in the friendzone, etc.). I've never bothered trying to do that after I lost all the power.

Don't worry about the power struggle. Just do your thing with other girls and she'll come crawling back. Or call her and tell her what's up. 

Sounds good man, to be honest I'm not in the mood to talk to her anyway, I'm enjoying gaming other girls a lot at the moment. Getting back into the groove. Feels great so far.

Whatever game of this? 

Also curious.

Also curious.