Conversation
The following is a conversation I've been in with a woman covering about 3 weeks. A little background: I met this girl on okc. I started the thread just before meeting up with her for the first time. The first date went well. We ended up making out in a doorway pretty hot and heavily. Her hands were all over my cock and she was engaging in dirty talk telling me about how she would put my cock in her mouth, what she would do etc. BUT, just when it seemed like the perfect transistion to walking over to her place (which was only a few blocks away) she tells me she doesn't sleep with guys on the first date. This situation was totally new to me. My experience has always been that if a girl puts her hand on your cock, it's a done deal. (Or, if she lets me put my hand on her vaj even outside her pants) Anyway, not ever having been in this situation, I didn't really know how to "talk" my way to her apartment. So, we ended the date shortly thereafter. 2nd date we met up at a bar, hung out, chit chatted for a while. I strated making out with her about an hour in, during a venue change. Hot and heavy again. This time I had something to say when she started in about not having sex with me that night - I told her I was thirsty and if I could come up for a glass of water. It was pretty obvious, but she agreed. In her apartment I immediately started making out with her again, this time she went so far as to bite/tease my cock with her mouth (outside my pants) and I was able to bend her over and rub her vaj (briefly). BUT, again she was insistant that she would not have sex with me that night. I'd never gone that far with a girl and not had sex!! How is that possible?? So, now I'm thinking this girl is playing some kind of game. What gives? I'm hesitant to go on a 3rd date with her because it's time that I could be gaming someone else and getting better results. I'm just not sure what this girl is doing. New situation for me. I hoping for a clever reply to her last text which could move us in the right direction and set up the frame that next time we meet we are going to have sex.
Me: Hi Devon. I'm running a few minutes late. Should be there before 7.
Girl - 4 mins later: OK..I'll be across the street at one of the benches.
Girl - 1 day 15 hrs later: e having a great weekend.
Girl: I managed to survive all the activities yesterday despite you keeping me out well past my bedtime! Just wanted to say thanks for a fun night. Hope you'r
Me - 1 hr 52 mins later: Glad you survived! I had a good time, as well. On my way to work, now. :( Have a great Sunday!
Me - 2 days 10 hrs later: Hi Devon. How's your week going? Would you like to get together again this Friday?
Girl - 25 mins later: I'm in San Diego again this week so not doing too great with the 4am alarm this morning but I'm having in there!
Girl: I'm just here today and tomorrow though so Friday would work out to get together.
Girl - 14 mins later: **hanging.
Me - 4 mins later: Fire alarm in your hotel! :(
Girl - 3 mins later: a bit challenging!!!!
Girl: Ah no. Wake up alarm on my phone at 4am....but I had a 4am (false) fire alarm at my place recently. Getting two cays + 1 dig out if the house at once was
Girl - 19 hrs 54 mins later: Wow. I was having some interesting autocorrect issues last night!
Girl: We're on for Friday, yeah?
Girl - 23 mins later: P.s. I watched one episode of true detective and I think I'm hooked!!
Me - 17 mins later: Nice! That one is next on my list. And, yes.....Friday. ;)
Me - 1 min later: So, you're back in SF?
Girl - 1 hr 16 mins later: Yep. Just landed ...headed home.
Girl - 1 day 14 hrs later: Are we setting a time and location to meet up tonight or shall we just hit the streets and hope that we run into each other :)
Me - 58 mins later: Hi Lo Club on Polk? Say, like around 8?
Girl: Dig it. See ya there
Me - 5 hrs 50 mins later: OK, see ya there. Can we make it 8:30?
Girl - 19 mins later: Yep, no prob
Me - 1 hr 9 mins later: Running a little late. Be there at 8:45....
Girl - 5 mins later: Whew! I'll stop speed walking then :)
Me - 1 day 2 hrs later: How's your day been? I'm just getting off work. Can't believe you kept me up so late last night....
Girl - 18 hrs 57 mins later: I kept you up??? :P
Girl - 1 min later: Long day with the movers, etc....crashed at like 930!
Girl - 2 mins later: Then more family stuff today....some lazing about in the sun at my grandparents' place was nice. Floyd and I just got home - we're pooped!
Girl - 1 hr 33 mins later: I guess it's a good thing you didn't stay over...you would've been even more exhausted yesterday if you'd stayed ...might've missed work altogether ;)
Me - 2 hrs 15 mins later: Stay over? I wouldn't have allowed you to take advantage of me like that!
Girl - 15 mins later: Ha! Riiiight...if you say so...
Girl - 2 days 21 hrs later: It turns out that Chilean seabass is on the "avoid" list that i got a while back from monterey bay aquarium. What the heck?! :(
Girl - 3 days 21 hrs later: I assume the lack of communication means you're not interested in hanging out again. That's no prob, but to avoid the potential for awkwardness when/if I
Girl: see you at whole foods, I wanted to close the loop and say thanks for the fun nights out and for showing me some new watering holes! Me - 3 hrs 20 mins later: Not at all. I get off work tonight around 11p,, if you want to hang out....
Me - 14 mins later: Oh, wait...what am I thinking? It's Sunday. You work tomorrow morning...
Girl - 3 hrs 9 mins later: Yeah heading out at 11 on a work night doesn't work out so well, but another time, yeah?
Me - 7 mins later: Yeah, for sure. I have Thurs/Fri off this week.
Girl - 13 hrs 57 mins later: Friday is probably a bad idea - I've got that race Saturday morning so should try to get to bed early. So let's say Thursday?
Me - 52 mins later: What race? ...running race?
Girl - 1 hr 24 mins later: Yeah. 5k run/ obstacle course thing
Me - 1 day 6 hrs later: If we meet up thurs night, are you going to make it worth my while....
Girl - 9 mins later: The thought had crossed my mind
Girl - 19 hrs 6 mins later: And by worth your while, you mean the usual - gracing you with my presence, wit, and all around charming self right? Girl - 5 hrs 6 mins later: We should postpone until next week if you're going to be overly disappointed in an evening with the same worthwhile-ness as our last two outings.
Me - 1 day 11 hrs later: OK, sounds good.
Girl - 6 mins later: Aren't you a day late with this? ....your texting etiquette leaves a lot to be desired, sir.
This is a lack of leading and sexual identity, and high value masculine polarity. Yes obviously we can craft some great texts and put this girl on serious edge but you're apparently super lacking in the sexual and physical escalation department.
"Yah thank gawd for those texting etiquette lessons I paid for. Pff. What's up with Friday boo I can make it"
By the way Alsky if you haven't picked up my text game ebook better jump on it while it's still the presale price.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
This is a lack of leading and sexual identity, and high value masculine polarity. Yes obviously we can craft some great texts and put this girl on serious edge but you're apparently super lacking in the sexual and physical escalation department."Yah thank gawd for those texting etiquette lessons I paid for. Pff. What's up with Friday boo I can make it"
By the way Alsky if you haven't picked up my text game ebook better jump on it while it's still the presale price.
My leading and sexual identity were pretty clear during our dates. I started off early by touching her arm, then her back, then putting my hands on her legs, then my hands in hers. It was all very carefully and intentionally executed. She wanted to have sex on the first date, but didn't want to break her rule of sleeping with a guy on the first date. Not that I think this rule is unbreakable. Also, I think it's a battle of who holds the value. The longer she goes without giving it up, the more value she holds. And vice versa. She's probing to see where the value's at, in my opinion. I always have sex with women by the 2nd date, given a solid makeout on the first. This one threw me for a loop. The only thing I can think of is - maybe I should have just pulled my dick out while in her apartment and commanded her to suck it. Maybe she needs to feel relinquished of responsibility to that extent. I've just never had to do anything that forceful before. Chicks are usually throwing their clothes off at that point. This one kept insisting, despite repeated attempts to move forward, that was not going to have sex with me that night. "not gonna happen" were here exact words.
My leading and sexual identity were pretty clear during our dates. I started off early by touching her arm, then her back, then putting my hands on her legs, then my hands in hers. It was all very carefully and intentionally executed.
Dude you are right bro. You really got that shit down. Why she didn't immediately just jizz her pants no one will ever know
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Alsky wrote:
My leading and sexual identity were pretty clear during our dates. I started off early by touching her arm, then her back, then putting my hands on her legs, then my hands in hers. It was all very carefully and intentionally executed.Dude you are right bro. You really got that shit down. Why she didn't immediately just jizz her pants no one will ever know
Haha. No, I just meant to say that I was leading during our date and moving things forward in an intentioned way. Just hit a brick wall when it came time to lose the clothes. I'm not trying to brag, but I've just never met a girl that allowed herself to get so turned on and then so collectively pull back and say, no. I'm 42, so I've been around. She's 33. Smart. She's a director at a research group at your alma matter. (where I went as well, ironically)
http://manwhore.org/girls-laid.php?cat=lay-reports
Alsky read thru a couple of these then get back to me.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male