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I feel like i messed up and its a value thing i need help.

I went on date with the girl it went well she want to see mea again i said i didnt want to see you again i told her i was joking. I got her on the phone and we talked for a good while she seemed into the convo and all. I invited her out to Dave and busters she said ill see. So i dont know what to do here? She said my facial expression didnt match when i said i didnt want to see her. Thats why she thought that... So what do i do it sounds like she doesnt wanna go out tomorrow? How can this be fixed?

I feel like its a value problem or she doesnt see me as higher valuer now i think thats my opinion.

 

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You need to understand the

You need to understand the greater context behind these sorts of conversations and play to that, not to the crap she's trying to dangle in front of your face. You tried to "match" a logistical, argumentative frame she set up that wasn't actually the real issue. A guy with real prowess with women would ignore such obvious bait to get into an argument with her. Because that shit's not real and it's a lose/lose scenario.

You accidentally hit on a pretty typical feminine insecurity. So yes she's nervous about it. You need to go over the top though and make her feel comfortable by disregarding the crap convo she's trying to bait you into. Change the subject, distract, whatever. This is the sort of scenario where girls are so awkward and timid they get in their own way. 

Remember, women are prey animals. They aren't as strong as they let on. They're nervous as fuck. 

"All The Pretty Horses" 

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So basically i need to ignore

So basically i need to ignore things she tries to dominate the frame... So now since i messed up i have to just keep talking to her until she will come out with me? I noticed on the phone she asked few questions like you not goin out tonight? And you watching tv? Not sure i feel like its a value issue now she wont come out so im gonna have to wait few weeks or..

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Me:Had a great time last

Me:Had a great time last night sure suprised me on that dance floor with your moves definitely had some.

Her:Lol
Hope you had a good day
Her:What changed your mind to wanna talk to me again?

Me:What you talking about

Her:You said you didn't want to talk to me again
Were you joking?

Me:Omg for real? Lol yes why the hell would i not talk to your sexy ass
My bad if you thought that ill chill but yeah you have fun?

Her:Yea i did thank you for inviting me out.

This was the day after the date shes not budging she said she wanted to see me again before this situation so i feel like i screwed it up we talked on the phone for a while im not sure exactly how about to get her out.

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Stop chasing every bitch so

Stop chasing every bitch so hardcore. These ho's are cutting your dick off and you're still whimpering after them. Get new ones. If a girl starts treating you like she's your mommy because you fucked up, it's over, son. Get new ones

Can everyone see the difference going on here? He's acting like he's got no pride no personal boundaries. A chick will not fuck a puppy dog type dude.

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Point is man how the hell can

Point is man how the hell can 1 minor mistake ruin everything i told.her i was kidding? If i fuck up with every girl im not gonna have any.. What about the thing about pulling away to get her emotions going so she will want to go out? Cant i do that? Why she lost interest over this?

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It's not a minor mistake. In

It's not a minor mistake. In fact the real issue, which is huge, is the one I'm calling out. Your little quip she chose to bring up is just the icing. Move on. Get more girls 

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Dude everything was fine she

Dude everything was fine she even said she had fun on the date it was this that i said that messed up she said my facial expression didnt match on the phone

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You didn't fuck her on the

You didn't fuck her on the date? 

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no she wouldnt let me kiss

no she wouldnt let me kiss her so i wasnt gonna try to pull her home, she let me kino and dance with her though. i was going to try on the next date.

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Sounds like a few things were

Sounds like a few things were off here holmes. And as I've said countless times stop getting bottlenecked at a fucking kiss! 

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Well the date seemed fine she

Well the date seemed fine she had fun we were dancing and everything and chillin inbetween the time. what do you mean by bottlenecked?

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Her lips are 2% of her body.

Her lips are 2% of her body. You've got the rest of her to explore/escalate on you don't need to kiss her. 

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Women live in this world of subtlety and inuendo

Women live in this world of subtlety and inuendo. It's basically the only form of communication they respond to. One chick could say to another, "OMG I love your dress. It's so... colorful." And it could mean what it says, It could mean, "I love you as a friend," but it could also mean, "Die you stupid bitch." depending on the subtleties and context. That kind of communication flies over the heads of most dudes. In your case, you were able to emulate it for a short time with your "I don't want to see you again" line.

Her:Lol 

Hope you had a good day 

Her:What changed your mind to wanna talk to me again? (intrigued)

Me:What you talking about

Her:You said you didn't want to talk to me again 

Were you joking? (intrigued)

Me:Omg for real? Lol yes why the hell would i not talk to your sexy ass

My bad if you thought that ill chill but yeah you have fun?

Her:Yea i did thank you for inviting me out. (THPPPPPTTT. Done. Game over.)

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Can you see how badly you

Can you see how badly you "gave away the game" and succumbed to pucker-factor there? It caused her to completely lose interest. 

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There's actually a way you

There's actually a way you can turn this back around in your favor... IF you can integrate and apply some of the info that's been given to you here.