Don't know who the fuck this guy is but this is a smooth as FUCK daytime makeout
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 02:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFjAb-fvzPs&feature=related
Impressive.
His approach is VERY smooth... just in the sense that he doesn't seem nervous..
Idk... it just seemed so effortless... like girls that are walking in the opposite direction, just don't normally stop that easily... even on sets that end up hooking really well.. He wasn't very loud, he wasn't stopping her- it was like he didn't even have to calm her down at all... she just stopped, without any effort.
To me, this looked way smoother than any other daytime pickup vid I've seen.
I don't even really see much of what he's doing... Would love a breakdown from someone.
LIke it doesn't even look THAT impressive, until he fucking goes into that whole "kiss close" routine thing... that was nuts.
Maybe I'm just not pushing my sets as far as they can go... like maybe the only difference between this and a standard number close is simply that he went for it.
Impressive.
His approach is VERY smooth... just in the sense that he doesn't seem nervous..
Idk... it just seemed so effortless... like girls that are walking in the opposite direction, just don't normally stop that easily... even on sets that end up hooking really well.. He wasn't very loud, he wasn't stopping her- it was like he didn't even have to calm her down at all... she just stopped, without any effort.
To me, this looked way smoother than any other daytime pickup vid I've seen.
I don't even really see much of what he's doing... Would love a breakdown from someone.
LIke it doesn't even look THAT impressive, until he fucking goes into that whole "kiss close" routine thing... that was nuts.
Maybe I'm just not pushing my sets as far as they can go... like maybe the only difference between this and a standard number close is simply that he went for it.
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 02:43
#1
interesting
@buddhagames:
Like in my own experience, and even in the vids I've seen of sasha- there always seems to be an initial "shock" factor to the girl after she is stopped... this girl is acting like it fucking happens to her every day lmao... I guess that's why it seems so smooth.
Not sure how he did that, heh : /
Like in my own experience, and even in the vids I've seen of sasha- there always seems to be an initial "shock" factor to the girl after she is stopped... this girl is acting like it fucking happens to her every day lmao... I guess that's why it seems so smooth.
Not sure how he did that, heh : /
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 02:57
#2
Re: interesting
@buddhagames:
I think that has more to do with the girl in this specific scenario. Every girl will have a different response.
Is that Whitman in your signature? I dig.
I think that has more to do with the girl in this specific scenario. Every girl will have a different response.
Is that Whitman in your signature? I dig.
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 03:07
#3
Re: interesting
@linus:
Yeah man, Whitman's, "Song of Myself" - super long poem.
It's my favorite poem... Like, it's seriously incredible... He just nails that "carpe diem" attitude that I love so much.
Yeah man, Whitman's, "Song of Myself" - super long poem.
It's my favorite poem... Like, it's seriously incredible... He just nails that "carpe diem" attitude that I love so much.
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 03:16
#4
Re: interesting
@buddhagames:
Awesome. Whitman is the shit.
Awesome. Whitman is the shit.
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 03:26
#5
Re: interesting
@linus:
Cool that you knew that... read a lot of whitman.. I assume?
Guys like him and faulkner are all very similar... they just "get it"... they get right to the core. Like they don't write about the ephemoral, superficial shit... it's just like BAM and you're there.
Cool that you knew that... read a lot of whitman.. I assume?
Guys like him and faulkner are all very similar... they just "get it"... they get right to the core. Like they don't write about the ephemoral, superficial shit... it's just like BAM and you're there.
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 08:49
#6
Re: interesting
@buddhagames:
'ephemeral' buddha ;)
But Whitman's awesome, "oh captain blah blah"
I've met Yad before in London. He's a solid dude - that's it. That's all you need. He teaches day and night workshops, and is probably one of those dudes who doesn't look like he's not OWNING it on the surface...but it's all about subtlety with this dude.
'ephemeral' buddha ;)
But Whitman's awesome, "oh captain blah blah"
I've met Yad before in London. He's a solid dude - that's it. That's all you need. He teaches day and night workshops, and is probably one of those dudes who doesn't look like he's not OWNING it on the surface...but it's all about subtlety with this dude.
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 08:54
#7
Re: interesting
@Gogo:
Probably my favorite passage from my favorite poem, it's VERY "rsd-ish"- he def. read some tolle, brah:
Trippers and askers surround me,
People I meet, the effect upon me of my early life or the ward and
city I live in, or the nation,
The latest dates, discoveries, inventions, societies, authors old and new,
My dinner, dress, associates, looks, compliments, dues,
The real or fancied indifference of some man or woman I love,
The sickness of one of my folks or of myself, or ill-doing or loss
or lack of money, or depressions or exaltations,
Battles, the horrors of fratricidal war, the fever of doubtful news,
the fitful events;
These come to me days and nights and go from me again,
But they are not the Me myself.
Probably my favorite passage from my favorite poem, it's VERY "rsd-ish"- he def. read some tolle, brah:
Trippers and askers surround me,
People I meet, the effect upon me of my early life or the ward and
city I live in, or the nation,
The latest dates, discoveries, inventions, societies, authors old and new,
My dinner, dress, associates, looks, compliments, dues,
The real or fancied indifference of some man or woman I love,
The sickness of one of my folks or of myself, or ill-doing or loss
or lack of money, or depressions or exaltations,
Battles, the horrors of fratricidal war, the fever of doubtful news,
the fitful events;
These come to me days and nights and go from me again,
But they are not the Me myself.
Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:24
#8
Re: interesting
@Gogo:
Ok, i kinda get what was going on there.
He complimented her style, and he's right, her style was sexy and cool. He got props for being genuine. His approach wasn't too alarming as well - then he goes on to compare her to other people, she's better than the rest of them. This is an ego boost for her and got her to invest with her own story, it's like looking at a girl's jewellery and asking "what's the story behind this bracelet?" then she tells you. He in turn got heavily invested in the 'russian doll' thing. He cares.
The whole russian doll thing was cool - he just sucked her into his own reality talking about something from his subjective experience. Not to mention those dolls are cute as fuck. His slow, graphic body language was probably doing 70% of the work here.
Then he got her name and turned that into a subject matter - just playing with her name, self amusing, no high octane shit but he was being fun. Dug a little deeper to find out who she was. Genuine interest - no crazy shit, calibrated to the girl and the environment.
The handshake was good for physicality, it's like the old school LA handshake - it brings them into your world, and he teases her playfully cause she can't do it right. "No this is how WE do it...", keep correcting her, girls love to be taught something. Anything.
He's a nice dude as well, like to the core...you can see that in the way he asked her to go on that mini-date, some people would say it was pussy how he asked, but it was congruent with his character, imagine if he sold it to her like how a guy like Manwhore would or Jeffy. It would seem off. Fake. He gave her that moment of realness too and wanted to make it more than just a daygame encounter.
The kiss routine was nicely done. He gave the 'trust test' to see if she would put her hands in his - calmed her down and reassured her that it's cool. Then gave her an adventure, "two people kissing on the street, it's crazy right? Let's do it", a unique experience she hasn't shared with anyone. He became a value giver. He used some simple NLP there too, "imagine how crazy it would be two people kissed..." that inserted an image in her mind, wasn't too personally directed at himself, and made it romantic. Job well done sir.
Hope this was a decent breakdown.
Ok, i kinda get what was going on there.
He complimented her style, and he's right, her style was sexy and cool. He got props for being genuine. His approach wasn't too alarming as well - then he goes on to compare her to other people, she's better than the rest of them. This is an ego boost for her and got her to invest with her own story, it's like looking at a girl's jewellery and asking "what's the story behind this bracelet?" then she tells you. He in turn got heavily invested in the 'russian doll' thing. He cares.
The whole russian doll thing was cool - he just sucked her into his own reality talking about something from his subjective experience. Not to mention those dolls are cute as fuck. His slow, graphic body language was probably doing 70% of the work here.
Then he got her name and turned that into a subject matter - just playing with her name, self amusing, no high octane shit but he was being fun. Dug a little deeper to find out who she was. Genuine interest - no crazy shit, calibrated to the girl and the environment.
The handshake was good for physicality, it's like the old school LA handshake - it brings them into your world, and he teases her playfully cause she can't do it right. "No this is how WE do it...", keep correcting her, girls love to be taught something. Anything.
He's a nice dude as well, like to the core...you can see that in the way he asked her to go on that mini-date, some people would say it was pussy how he asked, but it was congruent with his character, imagine if he sold it to her like how a guy like Manwhore would or Jeffy. It would seem off. Fake. He gave her that moment of realness too and wanted to make it more than just a daygame encounter.
The kiss routine was nicely done. He gave the 'trust test' to see if she would put her hands in his - calmed her down and reassured her that it's cool. Then gave her an adventure, "two people kissing on the street, it's crazy right? Let's do it", a unique experience she hasn't shared with anyone. He became a value giver. He used some simple NLP there too, "imagine how crazy it would be two people kissed..." that inserted an image in her mind, wasn't too personally directed at himself, and made it romantic. Job well done sir.
Hope this was a decent breakdown.
Tue, 07/24/2012 - 07:46
#9
daytime makeout
One thing I'd like to start off by saying that he happened to stumble upon a girl that LOVES DICK and BALLS. If you do not recognize this look, relook at the parts in the video that clearly show her face.
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Ok this kiss close blows. She was ready for it 3 or 4 minutes before. That's his chode having to reassure itself before he goes for the kiss. (Ok coming back to this part later) Was good and hot. But see how she ended it and smoothly transitioned out of it? That's a girl that does not give a FUCK about kissing a random dude on the street. SHE handled that not him. You can tell when a guy is good socially, but lacks the sexual experience to close the deal all the way down. I will fuck anywhere, and any time. And have. Derp
He got her attention like a fucking log standing in the middle of her path, which is exactly what you want, gave her a compliment which was a bit off on his part but was received well, then gained her trust by having an actual conversation about her buttons. Also a reflection of his "presence" and smoothness.
But past a certain point I was watching this going, uhh.. take her somewhere coooozy, NOW.
This is Yad, Sasha's old wing. They used to be good buddies but he took a lot of Sasha's content and started daygame.com with it and is now his competitor. From what I've seen of the guy attempting to amog his own business partner (the long-haired ginger) in their youtube videos I can't stand the guy.
.................
Ok this kiss close blows. She was ready for it 3 or 4 minutes before. That's his chode having to reassure itself before he goes for the kiss. (Ok coming back to this part later) Was good and hot. But see how she ended it and smoothly transitioned out of it? That's a girl that does not give a FUCK about kissing a random dude on the street. SHE handled that not him. You can tell when a guy is good socially, but lacks the sexual experience to close the deal all the way down. I will fuck anywhere, and any time. And have. Derp
He got her attention like a fucking log standing in the middle of her path, which is exactly what you want, gave her a compliment which was a bit off on his part but was received well, then gained her trust by having an actual conversation about her buttons. Also a reflection of his "presence" and smoothness.
But past a certain point I was watching this going, uhh.. take her somewhere coooozy, NOW.
This is Yad, Sasha's old wing. They used to be good buddies but he took a lot of Sasha's content and started daygame.com with it and is now his competitor. From what I've seen of the guy attempting to amog his own business partner (the long-haired ginger) in their youtube videos I can't stand the guy.
Tue, 07/24/2012 - 10:33
#10
Re: daytime makeout
@Manwhore:
ah, MW's analysis was better - interesting take on it all.
ah, MW's analysis was better - interesting take on it all.
Tue, 07/24/2012 - 19:59
#11
Re: daytime makeout
Manwhore;915.6862;5 wrote:
One thing I'd like to start off by saying that he happened to stumble upon a girl that LOVES DICK and BALLS. If you do not recognize this look, relook at the parts in the video that clearly show her face.
.................
Ok this kiss close blows. She was ready for it 3 or 4 minutes before. That's his chode having to reassure itself before he goes for the kiss. (Ok coming back to this part later) Was good and hot. But see how she ended it and smoothly transitioned out of it? That's a girl that does not give a FUCK about kissing a random dude on the street. SHE handled that not him. You can tell when a guy is good socially, but lacks the sexual experience to close the deal all the way down. I will fuck anywhere, and any time. And have. Derp
He got her attention like a fucking log standing in the middle of her path, which is exactly what you want, gave her a compliment which was a bit off on his part but was received well, then gained her trust by having an actual conversation about her buttons. Also a reflection of his "presence" and smoothness.
But past a certain point I was watching this going, uhh.. take her somewhere coooozy, NOW.
This is Yad, Sasha's old wing. They used to be good buddies but he took a lot of Sasha's content and started daygame.com with it and is now his competitor. From what I've seen of the guy attempting to amog his own business partner (the long-haired ginger) in their youtube videos I can't stand the guy.
Okay, so questions:
1. What's the issue with missing the EXACT time that the makeout is ready? In some interactions, will these windows close and just not ever open again? Like if this girl WASNT the kind of girl that loves dick and balls, could he have potentially missed that window and then not have been able to get the makeout at all... without doing a lot of extra work? Also- can you point out the time when you felt that the makeout was there for the taking? I'd like to see what she looked like, how the interaction looked.. etc.
2. So the main issue here is that he didn't take the interaction as far as it actually could have gone... When he DID try to bounce her for an insta-date, she dropped the stuff about her friend... how would you have handled this, in order to get her to bounce to another location?
Tue, 07/24/2012 - 21:57
#12
Re: daytime makeout
@buddhagames:
1. I don't think their is an exact point where she was ready.. Like he didn't say something awesome and she was like "wow okay I'm ready!" look at her face when it zooms on it like 1-2 mins in. She is happy(comfortable), in the moment, giving him lots of eye contact, smiling and being fluttery. She's comfortable but still a bit nervous around him aka attracted. Or as Alex said aroused. So I think anytime after 2 mins in he could've kissed her. If he just shut up, looked at her and pulled her in she would've complied.
2. I'm not sure about this one. But HE even said "ohh you do have to go..." I'm not sure if he was being a chode here or maybe she was subbing to him "I need to meet my friend now, no way can I come." but I guess he could've just plowed. Just gone nuts on her. If it were Julian or manwhore standing there would she have left? Maybe but it would've been a lot harder for her to do so. "come with me, we'll be five minutes, text your friend, she'll understand... LISTEN! How often do we meet another amazing person? We need to capitalize on this and spend a few more minutes together." *takeaway* keep plowing. I don't know if that'd be the best case and maybe it would fuck up the meet up for later but it is probably better than what he did... Not that he did bad I just don't think he did everything he could have
1. I don't think their is an exact point where she was ready.. Like he didn't say something awesome and she was like "wow okay I'm ready!" look at her face when it zooms on it like 1-2 mins in. She is happy(comfortable), in the moment, giving him lots of eye contact, smiling and being fluttery. She's comfortable but still a bit nervous around him aka attracted. Or as Alex said aroused. So I think anytime after 2 mins in he could've kissed her. If he just shut up, looked at her and pulled her in she would've complied.
2. I'm not sure about this one. But HE even said "ohh you do have to go..." I'm not sure if he was being a chode here or maybe she was subbing to him "I need to meet my friend now, no way can I come." but I guess he could've just plowed. Just gone nuts on her. If it were Julian or manwhore standing there would she have left? Maybe but it would've been a lot harder for her to do so. "come with me, we'll be five minutes, text your friend, she'll understand... LISTEN! How often do we meet another amazing person? We need to capitalize on this and spend a few more minutes together." *takeaway* keep plowing. I don't know if that'd be the best case and maybe it would fuck up the meet up for later but it is probably better than what he did... Not that he did bad I just don't think he did everything he could have
Wed, 07/25/2012 - 06:17
#13
Re: daytime makeout
Basically, the intensity of her "excuse" matched the intensity of his invitation. She just wanted a bit more and he wasn't there for it. I mean.. this is about him sticking his dick in her VAGINA. If I'm deterred by a girl trying to meet up with her friends I'm just not going to get laid.
I've got my lazy moments fo sho. But if I'm on fucking video, or bootcamp, I'm going for it making it happen. It's like I have lava at the base of my spine, spreading like fire up the vertebrae of my spine into the back of my head. Git it nigga. And just so you understand, this isn't just about chicks. This is the way I was about certain things in the military, parts of college, and projects I've been involved with during my life. It's a striving forward that directs your behavior without question.
Icecock has it pretty solid with the kissing part. Not sure exactly where she's ready but it was pretty early. His "How often do we meet another amazing person?" is pussy shit tho. Date planner drill anybody?? ;)
I've got my lazy moments fo sho. But if I'm on fucking video, or bootcamp, I'm going for it making it happen. It's like I have lava at the base of my spine, spreading like fire up the vertebrae of my spine into the back of my head. Git it nigga. And just so you understand, this isn't just about chicks. This is the way I was about certain things in the military, parts of college, and projects I've been involved with during my life. It's a striving forward that directs your behavior without question.
Icecock has it pretty solid with the kissing part. Not sure exactly where she's ready but it was pretty early. His "How often do we meet another amazing person?" is pussy shit tho. Date planner drill anybody?? ;)
Thu, 07/26/2012 - 21:51
#14
Way too long.
He could of made out within seconds. This video should have been 1 min long. His calm approach was enough to get the make out, THEN talk, then go for the pull.