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Some context: Have been seeing this girl for about 5 months. Was a boss when we first got together, then started to become complacent in the relationship. Took about a 3 week break from seeing her so she could forget about my bitch azz behavior, came back to center and hit her up. We meet up for drinks and hook up on Thursday. She sends me this Sat night.

Girl: Hey. Im not tring to be dramatic nor bitchy right now...but im kinda upset. We need to talk tmo.

(5 mins later) Get back to me by tmo or im just seriously done. For real.

(5 mins later) I honestly know you arnt going to. So Im done. No explanation needed.

Me: Im out rn babe. What the fuck is up.

Girl: Two things. 1. Im sick of you coming over...fucking me when we r hammered...and not having the decency to call or text for DAYS. Im not 21. Stop that bullshit. 2. Every time we fucking hook up....something goes really WRONG down there. I think you're being dishonest with me despite me TELLING u its okay to be honest and quite frankly...im beyond pissed.

Girl: Im over it matt. Date little girls. Bc im not one. And Im done with this SHIT. I end up bruised and suffering in multiple ways from our "times" together and idk wtf u think is okay with doing that and then going about your ways....but real women dont put up with that. Done.

Girl: I dont want to hear from you again. Ever.

Yeah. To clear some things up. She frequently gets UTI's, she was getting them before we were hooking up. Her doctor said her little vagina is prone to them because of the way its shaped inside or some bullshit. I had gotten STD tested before hooking up w her and im clean. Im 90% sure she isnt hooking up w anyone else.

As far as the bruises go haha. We got drunk and did some light sparring. We've done it before. I was showing her inside leg kicks and we were rolling around on the floor doing jiu jitsu. Its this cute little dance we do before we have sex. 

Basically I see this as a test. What I dont know is if I should be understanding or does she want to be reprimanded. Any advice is appreciated.

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Ok so what are your

Ok so what are your expectations here. What's your "goal" 

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Of course I want to remain

Of course I want to remain her fuck buddy, but I DONT want to compromise who I am as a man, supplicate and allow her drama bs to throw me off center. I said this back:

1. I will show you my test results if it makes you feel better. If you think I would bring intentional harm to that lovely little vagina of yours, youre sureley mistaken.

2. I think its pretty clear its a hygiene thing. If your little lady is prone to uti's, we should probly be showering before & after sex. And be drinking lots of water.

3. I think we are both good communicators, so if you wanna talk to me about something Im up for it.

4. I really like you baby, youre cool & everything about you turns me on..But I'm not gonna chase you around like a little puppy dog. If you truly dont wanna be with me, thats that. If you change your mind, gimme a call.

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You must have a really weak

You must have a really weak guard bro :P

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So did you communicate this

So did you communicate this "break" or just stopped talking to her completely

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Meow wrote: So did you

Meow wrote:
So did you communicate this "break" or just stopped talking to her completely

 Cut it off completely for about 3 weeks. She didnt reach out during that time

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Hmm that could always be part

Hmm that could always be part of the problem, it really depends on the relationship dynamic between you guys. It definitely seems like you have established more a of boyfriend/girlfriend type romance. You really should have casually hit her up with a text or snapchat during those three weeks, and just said whats up and let her know you have been really busy lately. You triggered a breakdown from her.

Keep it casual and fun and defintely do not ignore her. You can slowly stop texting her as often, and the fuck buddy relationship without any expectations will arise. This will only happen if your awesome everytime you see her/text her, even if its not often. Expect another one of these situations though, and face it with the same awesome flow.

About a month ago I had the same type of issue, the girl texted me saying she can not just hook up anymore and that she felt like it was making her a whore/bad person. What I told her was that I thought she was cool and that I would totally make her my girlfriend but we are both too busy with our personal lives to really go there right now. Then I casually started inviting her places, telling her I just wanted to say hi and hang out. Once we were together I teased her saying I would really like to fuck her but it would not be right, and I actually did not bang her that night but I totally could have. After that night, I would act like it was out of my control and that there was too much sexual tension not to bang her. Expecations are now gone, we text like once a week and thats all, never any resistance for sex.

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You should not be chasing the

You should not be chasing the fuck buddy relationship, and never try to logically explain it to her. It will just happen if your awesome. You probably won't even realize what you've done until she stops putting expecations on you.

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You're overcompensating. It's

You're overcompensating. It's pretty typical for community dudes who perceive themselves to be in "recovery". This girl is being very open and honest, you didn't talk to her for three weeks. lol 

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Manwhore wrote:You're

Manwhore wrote:
You're overcompensating. It's pretty typical for community dudes who perceive themselves to be in "recovery". This girl is being very open and honest, you didn't talk to her for three weeks. lol 

Recovery? Idk about that.

What I actually did here was pretty smart and it ended up working out the way I thought it would. There are a few principles here that people can learn from.

1. The Power to Walk Away, Leaving the Interaction Open. In sales, the person who has the highest negotiating point is the one who is willing to walk away. She thought she was the one in control, saying that she never wants to hear from me again. I read this with a James Bond smirk on my face. Notice how I left the interaction open. "If you change your mind, gimme a call". This sentence is magical. 

2. No Chasing, No Contact. Her "I never want to see you again. Ever!" was clearly an over dramatic and emotional text to send. The typical guy here would begin to chase and blow up her phone, and I believe thats exactly what she was expecting me to do. They key here is to end the convo with "If you change your mind, gimme a call". Patience pays with women. I see a lot of guys on here texting thinking that they have to do something to get the girl to respond. But its actually the absence of a response that works the magic. Let her miss you. Let her wonder about you while the other guys who dont know what theyre doing blow themselves out by constantly hitting her up.

After NO contact for a couple of days, she hits me up - "Hey I thought about a lot of stuff and I really would like to talk to you. I know that I owe you an apology. Im free tonight to talk if u wanna come over"

What I did here was a huge realization for me when it comes to texting. With my absence, I am re-training her to chase me instead of the other way around. Before, I was the one initiating contact, but I slowly started to see how this causes women to lose their attraction for a guy, because there's no aspect of a chase in it for her. Now she will be the one hitting me up, and I will set up the dates. This is a crucial dynamic with interacting with women, simply because it is different than what all the other guys out there are doing. I hope yall can get some value from this.

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Yes well.. thank you for the

Yes well.. thank you for the rsd intro primer lesson. I'll be sure to buy your ebook.

What I was referring to is that you did just treat her like a piece of meat when you simply didn't contact her for three weeks, and then gave her the "my way or the highway" spiel when she complained. If she had never responded.. what would you have done? Believe me there are plenty of girls that will shine you on. 

There IS such a thing as empathy. What mainstream studies there are have shown that there are really two main styles of "being good" with women. One is the cold manipulative unfeeling style (there are sociopaths and Wall St. types that are GREAT with girls), and the other is full empathy. This entails dealing with her emotions without being thrown off center. Not trying to judge you mang but don't let the fear of "being thrown off center" make you lose girls that just want a little bit more from you. All in all though I think you handled it solidly. *fist bump* 

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