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You guys ever put off bangin' the easy lays? Like I have this chick that has been chasing me, hard, for at least a year now and I refuse to bang her for some reason. She's actually really hot, but I don't know why I haven't done it or anything. Maybe it's similar to when girls keep orbitors? I know she's there, it's been a year and she hasn't gone anywhere.. she's hot and I've kind of "friendzoned" her, I feel like I should just do it. Get that abundance up, get out there, etc. 

Maybe it's a success barrier I've put in front of myself. Going to invite her out tmr and get this shit done. 

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do it and tell us how it felt

do it and tell us how it felt

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Yeah, I'm going to do it.

Yeah, I'm going to do it. Gotta break the slump I put myself in the past little while. Tired of blowjobs and shit.. Would much rather have sex. Going to set up some good logistics and get it done.

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She's away this weekend but

She's away this weekend but I'll set something up with her soon. Gotta get it done.

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It's because you're feminine

It's because you're feminine and you won't get any external validation for it so you refuse. 

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You fall for game just like a

You fall for game just like a bitch does. A girl(guy) gives you a hard time you chase, they pursue you you ignore. You have zero forward direction of your own. I don't even know why you're on this site

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I just had the same sort of

I just had the same sort of thoughts tonight. It could be the conditioning I had growing up where anything that comes easy isn't worth having, I'm not sure. I'm going to make sure I do it though, I gotta fix this mindset I've got going on cause it's not helping me at all. 

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Damn, I have the same thing

Damn, I have the same thing going on.  But MW do you think its possible to combine that feminine energy as well as the masculinity of being driven towards something?  I think I will always be more feminine than most guys but its only a problem when I don't have the balls to get into my masculine side as well. 

Yep, I have definitely been in the business of banging chicks not for the purpose of banging chicks, but for the validation, my own as well as from others.  Which leads to, well, issues.

Always felt wierd when a girl would pursue me, never let myself just accept I was awesome.  Goddamn

 

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Yeah it's not a problem. In

Yeah it's not a problem. In your case it could also mean you don't want too much attention or expectations on yourself and don't welcome the attention from a girl. 

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So its a predicament for some

So its a predicament for some while just a peripheral issue for others?

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That makes sense to me when

That makes sense to me when it's put that way. I also find I'm ridiculously picky when it comes to chicks I hook up with as well. I don't like the feeling that I'm "settling" for a sub par hook up... If that makes sense? Not quite sure how to word that.

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AP_Grappler wrote: That makes

AP_Grappler wrote:
That makes sense to me when it's put that way. I also find I'm ridiculously picky when it comes to chicks I hook up with as well. I don't like the feeling that I'm "settling" for a sub par hook up... If that makes sense? Not quite sure how to word that.

We all have expectations and standards for who we'll hook up with. The skill lies in projecting those expectations and communicating to a girl how she can meet them. Even if it means she's only good for hooking up with, or hanging out with occasionally, you can create that sort of vibe and relationship with a chick. Maybe some girls are good for breaking into cemetaries with and getting head in front of the Virgin Mary, and the rest of the time you both are off doing your own thing. But obviously we want the feminine element in our lives, it's time to discover HOW you want it, as well as to start expanding your openness to it and discovering new stuff. If nothing else there are probably sexual fantasies that you might want to have fulfilled ;). The problem I see in a lot of guys and you as well is that the fulfillment you want from them is not mature or a seasoned male need. Of course they don't want to necessarily fulfill this either. Really the only guys that get to live out those boyish fantasies without growing up first are drug dealers and talented musicians. But even artists most of the time, who are sensitive by nature, are going to be on average more mature. 

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Dunno guys. If a girl meets

Dunno guys. If a girl meets my standards, ill try to lay her. Be it she chasing me or me chasing her. A while back i got this text saying "hi i am a big fat brunette, i bake cake, and i feel like cuddling and having sex. You've been recommended." So i am like wtf, i wait a bit and shoot her a text to figure out if its a joke or who recommended me, turns out it was a tip given by a girl i fucked phenomenally a few months back. So i get facebook of this new girl, find out that she is not fat at all and has huge boobs, and i am like mkay. I was actually thinking how fat she must have been for me not to do it just because it would be a great story. Usually my standards are high but this just sounded like interesting experience.

so i went to this girl and it turns out she has yummy fake breasts. I talk to her maybe 10 minutes and fuck her for hours afterwards. The sex was phenomenal, she is very relaxed, gives a good bj, goes into this puppy eyes mode, and just melts. I ended up sleeping at hers and when i decide to fuck her in the morning, she sticks it in her ass... So the bottom line is - one of the easiest lays of my life ended up with awesome sex and a nice story. Oh and later i found out that she was in czech spinoff of big brother LOL.

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I think that's my next goal.

I think that's my next goal. To vision what exactly I want in terms of a feminine element in my life and set values and standards to it. As well as find a way to project it onto the females in my life that I'd like to have around.

Do you think I could set different standards for different girls? By that, I mean, she will be just a friend, shall be a fb, I might ddate her, etc. Or does that mess up your values and standards by not allowing them to solidify?

Also I'm going to be trying a lot of new things like you suggest, I'm going to actually have fun with this. Be a bit adventerous. Not so much, "take what you can get and go", but "take what's given to you but as well work for what you want" a bit greedy but I think that'll help me learn as well as grow.

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Hahaha that's awesome and

Hahaha that's awesome and yeah I usually have standards for girls but if I'm not that attracted to them I usually don't go for the lay. I think I might change that and attempt other things with them instead of just sex. Like Manwhore, said, trying new things and sexual fantasies could be cool cause those chicks would certainly be down

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AP_Grappler wrote: Do you

AP_Grappler wrote:
Do you think I could set different standards for different girls? By that, I mean, she will be just a friend, shall be a fb, I might ddate her, etc. Or does that mess up your values and standards by not allowing them to solidify?

Yes of course. What dafuq you think we're doing over here, lol. 

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Can never be too sure hahaha

Can never be too sure hahaha

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so how do you project your

so how do you project your expectations on a girl? i usually try to talk about how i feel about relationships - that human beings are not made to sleep with one person for the rest of their lives. and i might also mention that i am currently too busy for a relationship and that i would want to give it my 100 %. but girls i sleep with still tend to fall in love with me, and expect a relationship. :/

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You always tell them that

You always tell them that before hand? 

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Not always, i think that this

Not always, i think that this open relationships stuff is too much for young girls. But the key seems to not let yourself be phased by her reaction. Sometimes they even nod in agreement but it feels like they seem to forget that i mentioned that. But I'll only be able to draw cocnclusions when i try that dozens of times.

that part about not being able to commit i read on girls chase which is a web manwhore has in recommendations if i remember correctly. And the second one is something im experimenting after reading the red queen.

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What was the article you read

What was the article you read on girls chase? I think I read the same one as well... I can't put my finger on it though.

I find open relationships are often one sided with younger girls, this crazy situation happened to my buddy the other day that involved a psychotic ex-bf freaking out and threatening him. A FB of his got too close and developed feelings for him and shit went down hill real fast after the initial agreement was no relationship, if anything an open one. 

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This is why i try not to

This is why i try not to sleep with a girl in other relationship for too many times. Feels too dangerous. But MW might be able to impart his wisdom on how to manage these things.