this is embarassing..

I mean.. tell us more about the interaction. Wtf

@5bees:

You didn't make your intentions clear when you first met. This is why I always go physical as quick as possible (I'm not saying I do it the best way but I find out really quickly if the girl is down or not). The girl has to view you as a sexual threat, not a dude she can just text.

@HUNTER:

I don't understand how this is even possible.

GO DIRECT PEOPLE.

Well it was 2 girls who were roomates and I don't really know how to get physical when it's just two girls and me , they were also both pretty hot and I wasn't sure which one I should go after. We pretty much just joked around and shit It may have come off a little too much like friend interaction as opposed to sexual interaction. I told them they were both too hot to be in a bar like this..blah blah, asked if they were single, and kinda just messed around but didn't get a chance to be physical at all. That's pretty much all I can remember tho I talked to em for about 20 minutes before I left, another thing is they were the only 2 girls that were hitonable at the bar so I didn't really feel like just walking up and trying to make out with one of them I thought I should go for an extended interaction but they may be a flawed ideal. I don't know.

This is lame but for some reason though the text she sent me makes me feel super insecure and I don't really like it, it's like I feel as a failure and think about all the negative feedback I've gotten from girls, it almost makes me not even want to deal with the feelings of inadequacy and just go back to being my "normal" self where at least I can lie to myself. Obviously I will still approach and stuff but in this moment I feel weak as fuck...has anyone else experienced this or am I just a huge faggot.

@5bees:

Good god man shut the fuck up. What the hell are you talking about going back to being "normal" and lying to yourself? What are you saying right now?

Because you made a mistake with some chick you talked to at a bar you want to stop meeting women entirely? It's a learning process. Detach yourself from the outcome. I like to think about situations like these by asking myself, "Would I care if I was fucking another girl right now." Usually the answer is going to be a resounding NO!

Seems like there is some work to be done. Don't get put off by the amount of time you are going to have to dedicate to becoming good at this. It's supposed to be FUN for fucks sake. Every interaction is just a learning experience.

I've gotten 18 numbers in the past 2 weeks. Not a single day2 not a single lay. Even a girl who sucked me off outside her moms house doesn't want to see me again. I get it, I'm learning. These things are happening because I AM MAKING MISTAKES. You have to understand that there is a learning process that you have to go through in order to see the results. The main thing is to learn from the mistakes and move forward. Try out new things see what works and what doesn't. Build up a shitload of reference experience for yourself to look back upon.

DON'T QUIT!

EDIT: Now to apply this to your situation...

You realize now that you need to be more physical in the initial interaction. You need to make your intent clear. The next time you are in a similar situation I hope you learn from this one and start escalating. EVEN IF YOU FUCK IT UP WHO CARES??? I find a lot of people are worried about "messing up" the interaction because they feel they've done everything right so far, (did the approach, got them to talk to me, oh they like me amazing) they can't put their ego aside and go for the close because they don't want to experience any negative feedback. Maybe next time you'll start escalating and you'll go a little too hard, then the next time you'll be more calibrated, after you've done it 1,000 times you'll notice the patterns and escalating properly will have become second nature.

@5bees:

Yeah, dude. Based on what you just wrote, you sound really really gay.

"mommy mommy, someone hurt my feelings- protect me"

Seriously dude- there is pain at ALL levels of this game... you just learn to relate to it different. You think it's fun to have like anywhere from 1-6 really really fucking SOLID interactions with SMOKING HOT GIRLS in a night and then text like every single one of them and not get a single response? You think it just comes NATURALLY for me to just be like, "wtvr, it's the process" FUCK NO DUDE. But there are two options:

1. Quit
2. Go HAM

Start focusing on the PROCESS... I have written COUNTLESS posts about this- there's even an audio of me talking about it on here...

When I write something like that- I'm not writing it just to sound cool. That stuff isn't some bullshit, yo. A lot of the stuff I write is really fucking MONEY, man. Listen to it and then actually take it into consideration....

Thanks for the honest feedback.. I do need to step my game up and stop being a little bitch, I just curious if anyone else ever had thoughts like this or if I'm just fucking crazy.

@5bees:

It's natural to consider quitting, until the moment you become a man.

@5bees:
This is like the funnest, most valuable skill set you could ever try to master. I fucking love the fact were a group of dudes on the internet improving our results with women and helping each other get sum!

DONT QUIT THE BROTHERHOOD.

4 points to house of clitoris

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@Steve:

yeah. I'm gonna be part of that 2-3%... it's kinda cool to already know that in the back of my mind because it gives me a "bigger picture" to look at each time I go out.

It also gives me no choice- like when thinking about my life.. I have NO CHOICE but to be balanced because I recognize how large of a part of my life pickup is going to play for the next 5-7 years.

By the time I am 30, I want to have this handled to a point where I either

A) Just don't have to worry about it anymore and can be selective enough to find an amazing person who I want to spend the rest of my life with in a relationship

OR

B) Still be doing it, but be doing it professionally in one capacity or another

It's funny too because without Manwhore and this forum, I ever would have gotten to the point I am at, in terms of the certainty of my success. He has been an incredible mentor to me and will continue to be. Without him and this forum I don't think I would have ever made the most pivitol decision in my pickup career- which was to start going out dead sober and alone. It completely changed everything. Literally.

It's even funnier, how, once you just start doing things the right way... how QUICKLY shit starts to get real. Literally, less than 2 months ago I couldn't do 90% of the shit I'm doing now when I am in field.

I am literally a different person than I was 2 months ago. In large part, thanks to manwhore and this forum.

Sack up. This isnt going to be the only time you fail so you better get used to failing or youre really never going to improve.

@buddhagames:
Massive action breeds massive change.

Good post man.

@5bees:

I think I've had this happen a few times to me.

When I first started I had a girl go up to my boss and tell her a bunch of lies about me trying to get me in trouble. Top that lol. Didn't get in any trouble either.