Enough of this One-itis shit - Ultimatum text or no? Need Assistance
Pretty much been gaming every single day this week. Number closed a bunch of chicks and have been practicing as much as I can on tinder. Don't want to particularly mess up the number closes so I been holding a steady decent frame and using those text convos for strict logistics.
Messaged up that girl I was into from one of the first threads I made and tried to play it out a bit.
It's getting kind of exhausting talking to this chick since it isn't really going anywhere... she always replies but I don't want a text buddy.. I don't have time for that shit. I gotta value myself higher. I gotta do something about this shit. Now.
This is the convo nice and short -
Me: How ya feelin' today?
Her: Good!
Me: Awesome. On vaca right
Her: Well just to (destination) for the weekend!
Me: Not bad, wow how awesome is life
Her: Pretty awesome ? Lol
Me: Fuckin awesome* I just killed that interview
Her: For what ?
Me: Bartending for an upscale lounge dt.
Her: Do you have like a billion jobs
Me: Man of many talents
Her: That doesn't answer my question haha
Me: Yeah, let's just say I get around lol
Her: Ahh I see haha
Me: Don't judge me.
Her: Good thing I wasn't!
Me: Lies. That facade ain't foolin' anyone!
Her: It doesn't have to!
Me: It can't! Tell me something
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She prob fell asleep but she usually responds back on something like that the next morning. Anyway, my question is do I shoot her an ultimatum? What would that even look like if I did..cause I've never done that?
I also gotta break that "wait for her to reply" before I send a text nonsense, I noticed Manwhore calling Alex out on it and I realize I do this also so I don't seem needy...
Could really use some help on this. Would appreciate it.
jo, mang, I'd say, where you said 'don't judge me' you could have rather said something to bring her in again. You made her chase before. But then you should have rather rewarded her by creating a playful we -frame (as in your marriage thread). somehow. You keep busting on her and though its clear you're jsut playing (to her probs too) I feel you missed an opportunity here. And then whole thing turned confrontational.
Not sure what kind of ultimatum you'd want to give her, too, lol. Ultimatum for what? to respond to your last line? nah, read it from the girls view. Would YOU feel compelled to respond to that?
I think the only reason to give a girl an 'ultimatum' is if you really dig her AND you have done YOUR job, and asked for reasonable compliance and she played little games with you instead showing that she values. I'd say non of this was the case here. If it is the case, you can next her with some kind of ultimatum, that shows her you are business. ( there was a thread a by JMULV here somewhere, where he's got a pretty killer line, search it. But his game was tight, too, so well haha)
here you probably got too caught up in this frameholding stuff.
Just reengage this girl if she's worth it, relate to in her playfull (we mode) way AND SET UP A DATE asap.
:D
@Chris or anyone chiming in
I didn't think it was salvageable hahaha! I guess she was investing at the beginning and chasing. Should I shoot her a text and be like "Don't ignore me loser!" I feel like I'm not high value in her eyes and I'm not sure how to portray this in text. I did get caught up in maintaining my frame and controlling the conversation.
Should I send her something playful or something more joking but depicts high value? It's a sticking point I'm having
Your approach seems like how two friends would talk... I do not see any type of end goal whether it be meeting up, or fucking. Just seems like you're texting her just because
I'm trying to get her out. She's just on vacation right now for the weekend. So basically I can't exactly ask her to hang out if she's out of town.
This is an update on the convo.
Me: Omg! Did you hear about that total loooooser that got invited to the party tonight but went to (destination) instead ;)
Her: Hear about it ? More like lived it :p
Me: Gross! We gotta do something about this dweeb :p
Her: Not really haha, I'd rather be here :p
Me: God.. Not everything is about you(her name)..
Me: We're talkin' about this loser
so I was going to suggest her coming by the bar I work at or something like that when she's back in town. The convo is still on going. Only prob is can't chill tonight or tmr. So we are just vibing. Opinion/Ideas?
Holding my frame. Trying to go for the close.
Continued from above
Her: Hmm okay then hahah
Me: Might have to whip you into shape too though
her: Nahh I don't think so
me: Too bad no one asked you :p that beer belly.. it's gotta go, being lame.. it's gotta stop and ice cream with me has got to happen *thumbs up emoticon*
im 100% feeling a shit test or frame battle about to take place lol or just no compliance on her part
Not liking these text man. There's a massive disconnection. It's just off.
This is just terrible and it doesn't get better. You literally are being lazy as fuck and it's so contrived. "awesome" "how awesome" "fucking awesome"
Seriously dude. This is bad. You're better than that.
Me: How ya feelin' today?
Her: Good!
Me: Awesome. On vaca right
Her: Well just to (destination) for the weekend!
Me: Not bad, wow how awesome is life
Her: Pretty awesome ? Lol
Me: Fuckin awesome* I just killed that interview
First text is way too try hard. Then when you say god not everything is about you. It's not playful. You're basically only two different wave lengths and she feels this is off. You also need to be more hard hitting. You need to be the one setting the vibe. And not giving a fuck what she thinks.
Me: Omg! Did you hear about that total loooooser that got invited to the party tonight but went to (destination) instead ;)
Her: Hear about it ? More like lived it :p
Me: Gross! We gotta do something about this dweeb :p
Her: Not really haha, I'd rather be here :p
Me: God.. Not everything is about you(her name)..
Me: We're talkin' about this loser
I know, I'm trying to convey higher value and be the prize but in this context with this girl I can't seem to do it. I am thinking I should cut my losses and use this as a reference because lately I haven't been having this problem with any other girls.
Her reply was "I like being fat and lame, and no ice creams not happening!"
Figure I should drop it, I haven't replied or anything. At least I can learn from the mistakes. Don't think this is salvageable.
I am going to be out gaming hard tonight. I just can't seem to knock her off her pedestal and be more hard hitting and frame controlling. I try to go in free of outcome but then it crumbles
Yo stop worrying about trying to convey higher value and trying to be the prize, you are over thinking shit. (You will convey higher value once you get a better grasp on game, and you won't even realize you're doing it)
I'll search him up and see if I can find anything.
I find myself overthinking it myself too.
should I just ignore her text and cut my loss? I haven't bothered replying
Yeah this girl thinks she's too cool. Similar to my keeping the fire going girl.
Id id hold off on it esp. If she just outright rejected your icecream invite.
Someone who's good at this might have some good re-engagement ideas, but I doubt you're going to make it better right now by texting her. You're not thinking about this straight atm
My thoughts exactly, she's just too much for me to handle when I'm in my own head about it. I gotta shake this feeling before I go out tonight.
I wont bother replying. Maybe someone can chime in on what I should do next but for the meantime I think I'll hang tight?
Very frustrating, I read the keeping the fire going thread also, I know the feeling man
Im no expert but from my view you look like you could use some Tolle books bro..Im guessing you haven't?
Never read them. Any recommendations ?
The Power of Now
A New Earth
You were doing good till here IMO
Me: God.. Not everything is about you(her name)..
I would use a more compassionate type of anger of frustration. Something that builds the interaction rather than deflating it
I'll look into those asap.
Yeah I messed up, I just told her I respect her decision. I'll cut my loss for now. I already know I'll see her agai so
I mean, you have to give Grappler props for going out there and getting shit done. He's actually going out and getting chicks numbers to fuck up with.
Yeah based on your other convos I feel like your texting is good man. We all mess up sometimes
Listen to this: https://soundcloud.com/thepowerofnow_part_1-2
I'll listen to that tonight after work.
Yeah oh well, since she's a mutual friend I know I'll see her again and when I do my game will be better, I'm just going to use it as a reference. Keep getting numbers and going out and doing what I have too. I mean I went out last night and pulled so I'm getting much better, just baby stepping it
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