FR: A conversation with a couple of gay dudes
So I'm really drunk right now so please forgive any typos or misspellingings. I'm trying to convey my experience here as candidliy as possible. I didn't get laid tonight... But I came away with a really good understanding of things that I thought was worth sharing.
I met a couple of gay dudes today at a friend's and there were zero bangable chicks there. So I was in experimental mode, where I was like I wonder if game works on gay dudes. It totally does. I'm 100% non judgmental when it come to things like that and I made it totally clear tio these two that I love pussy and there is no way I would turn gay. However, that didn't stop me from being real and practicing my art. I got a lot of great feedback from these two guys.
Then we were at the bar and what I told them was:
Look, I've been 100% real with you the whole night. How I've been with you is who I am. I'm not faking anything. I don't give a shit what you think about me. I'm just being totally honest and open, a lot of people would label me as a "pickup artist" but really I'm just a dude who wants to improve himself. (I proved the point then by grabbing a passing girl by the arm and gaming her)
After I said that, they totally dropped all their "gay defensiveness" and the feedback I got in return was:
"When it comes to girls, don't even try. Just be there and whatever comes, will come."
"Dude, you are super intense. I've never met anyone as focused as you are, it's really refreshing to have someone listen and accept things the way you do. At first I thought your body language was a bit [needy], but after seeing the full spectrum, I realized that you're being so involved, that it's just intensity. You don't ever get that from anyone else. And it's really cool."
So yeah, I'm trying really hard not to make this any ego masturbation, but dang it was nice to get a little positive feedback! I recommend gaming some gay dudes (with the goal of feedback in mind) just to get a little perspective, cuz basically they're just chicks in dudes bodies. They get what it is to have male drives, but are also really in tune with the femininity perspective.
You banged any superhotties yet?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yeah I've been friends with all kinds of gay dudes for years, they give you great feedback on where you're at. It's not like "game works" on gay dudes, charisma is universal and I find myself drawing in everyone because I'm massively non-judgemental.
The main lesson I've learned from gay guys is the way a couple of them flirt with me even when they know I'm straight. It's funny and direct, but they're doing it for self expression so it doesn't come across as aggressive.
I try to emulate that vibe in how I flirt with girls in my social circle. It's a way of being super direct and allowing them to respond in kind, because there's no agenda or creepiness behind it, it's all for fun.
Examples:
- A female friend and I always greet eachother by saying "Nice shoes, wanna fuck". Hahaha it's brilliant.
- I always joke about purposefully trying to get girls pregnant, with girls I've fucked I pat them on the stomach and go "Is my baby done cooking yet?"
- Challenging girls to come up with the worst chat up lines is great for this, it allows you to say some explicit stuff to eachother in a socially acceptable way.
However, this has resulted in several girls I've been with recently saying something like "I actually thought you were gay until you pushed me into the wall and kissed me".
^^HAHA! "Is my baby done cooking?" I'm commandeering that one. YEAH!! That's exactly what I'm talkin about! That's why girls like hanging out with gay dudes, cuz they don't hide things, like you said. No agenda. No creepiness. No judgements.
Manwhore, I would say yes. I don't know what your definition of superhottie is... This one prolly comes closest.
This chick lived in the house behind me and she'd jump the fence and we'd bang our brains out while her bf wasn't around lol. One time she ripped her pants all the way up to her butt on the fence.
That's a pretty "advanced" vibe to have. I ascribe that sort of demeanor to being able to take down ice queens and such. The girls that intimidate guys go for that sort of vibe
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Who knew that being a daft pervert was an advanced vibe hehehe
But yeah it's something I've really grown into recently, works wonders