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I started out sober again 
I can officially testify the heavy drinking I’ve constantly been doing over the summer has taken a noticeable toll on my game these past +3 months. It's most obvious at parties where I now frequently hesitate and anxiety kicks; even my text game is dreadful now.
My wing convinced me to go out despite the shitty rainy weather. Our lazy asses decided to use my car, roam my college town at 10mph and scope for parties. 
The rain had settled by then and some students came out. Open parties were cancelled because hosts thought the rain was going to go on forever. Morale was low until an ex-coworker of mine spotted me from her driveway.
 
Preface: Hot latina hired at my retail 2 weeks ago. On her 1st day I could swear she was frequently glancing over at me but I played aloof for the fun of it. I conducted half of her training, played the fun asshole and she loved it. She quit a couple of days ago because my boss is a fag.
 
I had my window rolled down so HBlatina went nuts. She climbed on the sidestep of my car, squeezing the fuck out of my neck lmfao. Next thing I knew she was trying to crawl in like a brown bear looking for a PB&J sandwich and getting her hands on everything she could.
She told one of her curious friends we are co-workers. They insisted I park in the driveway and party with them. Major DHV, a lot of the time I neglect the power of good connections. My wing and I got out of the car to find the girls, we did our introductions. Turns out one of HBlatina's housemates applied as soon as she left the company, she got SUPER excited about us working together. Let me call her HBenergy because she just had plenty of it: loud, expressive, etc. To top that she has a BANGING 5"5ish body: Tities and ass for days with a cute face. 
 
Anyways HBLatina's group dragged us to their neighbor's party on the oceanside after leaving their house. Immediately some guy at the party challenged my wing and I to a game of BP. We accepted since I noticed the girls were still trying to find their way around. I did not want to stand around and wanted to be in party mode as quickly as possible. To cut things short we bounced back and forth from the party to their house a few times. This is what happened throughout all this:
 
* HBenergy and I were chatting and I was teasing the hell out of her outside her place: I told her she was going to get us arrested for walking out with open containers and she would basically make a shitty cell mate lol. We get back to the party with the bottle chatting it up by the dance floor. Other girls were looking, I was a bit overwhelmed. At this point I really should have grabbed HBenergy to the dancefloor but I was being a faggot lol. We eventually ended up dancing apart, I saw her shutting down 3 dudes on sight... It slowly hit me that she might be into me. I used be quick about picking up interest but I've regressed so much!!
 
* I lifted her and she loved it. She was thrown off by how strong I was for a thin dude. Turns out she wants to be involved in the fitness/nutrition field. She also said she runs so I made an excuse to exchange numbers by making fun of how unfit I am (truth) and that she would make the perfect partner. She was extremely enthusiastic about it and kept insisting I text her right away.
 
HBEnergy bounced us to 2 more venues. I stepped it up one notch, we danced and I was often clawing her as we were changing venues. At some point while we were doing all this moving, one of HBEnergy’s friends snatched her to the side whispering some shit at which point my girl was like “Stop it!... stop it!” My wing told me her blonde friend was telling her that she should fuck me. My wing poofed and we headed back to my girl’s crib to down the wine. Once in the vicinity of the house HBLatina spotted me clawing HBenergy (I lost her at the beginning of the night at the neighbors') “OMG Guru you whore!!” then she ran up to me constantly begging me to spin her around. Next thing I knew both girls were fighting over me like “He’s my whore, I know him from work/ well he’s about to be mine” I don’t mean to brag but it was hilarious and fucking blew my mind. Fast forward we were in their house HBlatina’s getting handsy with me and dancing on me although her boytoy is standing on the side. Meanwhile HBenergy was dancing on the table knocking bottles over and wouldn’t come to me when I extended my arm. 
 
To cut things short no I didn’t bang her even though with the proper mindset, i should have. I didn’t step up to the plate and did not attempt to isolate even when things looked difficult.

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That sounded like an easy

That sounded like an easy steal in basketball where the guy gets so anxious and ends up missing the lay up.

Game is pretty cyclical if you're not an advanced guy so you need to take these opportunities and make the most of them. Invite this girl over tonight flyweight and netflix. 

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12/1/2013ME: *Sent pic of

12/1/2013

ME: *Sent pic of Corona beer I was drinking attached with "don't hate"(

HER: empty message

ME: Elaborate

HER: Who are you 

ME: Tiana you're silly

HER: Tell meeeee!

ME: Nope

HER: For some reason I think this is Guru am I right haha (Bish wants to play games)

ME: Somebody hand this woman a cookie. I never thought you would get it

HER: Hehehe i'm psychic

ME: Nah you're still my teddy bear (inside joke)

12/7/2013

HER: Do you have this weeks schedule?

HER: (10mins later) I needa kno if i'm on iittt

HER: (15mins later) And also what are u doing tonight wana turn up with me n Syd?

ME: You open tomorrow. Turning up sounds good! I'll let you know

HER: Fuck my lifeeee that sucks n yeah text me lata!

ME: Aye girl turns out i'm free tonight. What time are we turning up

HER: 9?

ME: See you then

Went to hers then she bounce me and her girlfriends to a party.

The girls huddled up talking gossiping about some shit, so I decided to go and socialize with some folks instead of standing around.

I grabbed her to danc at one point but she walked off within 30 secs wanting her space... cool. Ended up dancing with few other girls/ by myself and I would occasionally catch her lingering. Whole thing gave me mixed signals.

Main takeaway that night though is I didn't really try to isolate her from her friends. Who knows what would have happened had I tried to make that effort.

12/8/2013

HER: Can u send me a pic of the schedule?? Or tell meh when i'm workin (wtf?)

ME: lmfao you idnd't take the schedule this morning?

HER: Hahaha nope I was still too drunk to think

ME: What am I oging to do with you

HER: Hush i'm perfect

ME: i'm white

HER: Hahahahahaha f u

HER: When do I work foo!

ME: *send pic of the schedule*

HER: What the fuck that's my fucking birthday

ME: lmao how old?

HER: 20

HER: I just got off the phone with *manager* haha She gotta change my shift or i'll dir

ME: I get to bully you since i'm older, bribe her

HER: I'm the boss hahaha

ME: Boss of making me sandwiches

HER: Haaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaa

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12/15/2013 HER: (7:27AM) I

12/15/2013

HER: (7:27AM) I forgot to get the schedule do I work today!!?? Sorry so early

HER: (8:35AM) Help :(

ME: (9:58AM) No work today

HER: (9:59AM) Yay ty booooo

HER: (10:37AM) I just say you drive down *random street*

ME: (10:59AM) Ha yeah pumpkin i'm helping a friend move in. What are you doing

HER: (2:37PM) I was coming home from *** and now i'm in my bed making a christmas list tehehe

ME: (2:51PM) Have you been good or naughty this year?

HER: (4:00PM) Hahaha I've been good get me a present

ME: (8:06PM) Is that right? I'm about to set hookah with th roomies and drink, come get some!

HER: (8:16PM) Dowwwwnnnn where at? ima bout to get a sandwich and eat it

ME: (8:23PM) *address* House is kind of messy so don't make too much fun!

HER: (9:00PM) i'm sleepy, not trying to turn up i'm bout to lounge n watch kickass 2. I am too full to move. Tomorrow turn uppppp

ME: (9:15PM) Boo!! I'm so butthurt me and the roomies are going to have an orgie

HER: (11:21PM) Sounds thrilling have fun

Re-engagement text for tomorrow? One more go with her then i'm onto the next

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Sounds like she is just using

Sounds like she is just using you for the schedule to  see if she can get away with it.

Is there another cute coworker you can flirt with to start injecting some jealousy plot lines? Might rekindle a spark here.

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Yeah as a matter of fact

Yeah as a matter of fact after typing this up I was questioning the current chemistry between the two of us, or lack of it.

As far as jealousy plots at work go, i've considered it. However, we rarely work the same shift. 

Tomorrow she comes into the store when I'm scheduled to leave, so I will stay longer and improvise.

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Let me point some things out

Let me point some things out that will hopefully help you gain better insight on what you should think about changing

Ill seperate it into two categories, your MINDSET and TECHNICAL aspects.

MINDSET

First, going out without liquid confidence when your not used to it is hard and you hear in pickup that it takes a while to get good without it. This is different for every individual so dont put a limiting belief that your game is gunna suck for a long time because of it. As for me it only took about one or two makeouts in the bar and a sober fuck to make me realize i dont even like getting hammered that much hahah. I dont focus on how many drinks i have i just decide not to get stupid drunk.

Another reason i think your limiting yourself is cause you said your text game sucks now because of drinking over the summer which doesnt even make sense lol. Your text game is really good from my point of view, a shitload better than mine, but then again i suck dick at texting haha.

The important mindset that is fucking you up is that your labeling this as "social circle game" AKA "if i fuck this up its going to have a huge negative outcome". GAME IS GAME. I do believe there is social circle game but like you said you have known these girls for about 2 weeks or something like that. Social circle game to me is more like im meeting up with my best female friend for three years and shes introducing me to her childhood friend whos hot and thinks im cute or something of this sort. Obviously im gunna play it cool with a low risk low error approach and just be my awsome self and let her game me. This sounds similar to what your doing by being the "fun guy". 

You were flirting with the latina girl when she used to work with you and she loved you for being the "fun asshole". This is the frame you set with her so this is how she is going to percieve you and talk about you when her friend asks who you are. Which is why her and her friend were so eager to party with you ( because they thought you were the funny dick who is used to banging). Im guessing what happened is you really liked the energy girl or whatever her name is so you droped the crucial "asshole" part (In regards to your actions not your verbals) then wrote later and termed this post something something something social circle game. That or maybe you just failed to be congruent with your thoughts, words, and actions. DEFINATELY ACTIONS.

TECHINCAL

Your too focused on isolation, did you makeout with either of them at any point in the two nights of partying?

"We bounced back and forth from the party to their house a few times" 

  • I dont know if you were going back and forth alone with her but if you were this was your first and easiest chance to move forward. I understand if it is early in the night and you dont wanna go for the close but at least try for the makeout and find out if you can. Also instead of "bringing back the bottle and chatting it up on the dance floor" why not take a shot from the bottle with her at her place when you grabed it and chat with her a bit there and try to move it forward?

"I saw her shutting down 3 dudes on sight... It slowly hit me that she might be into me"

  • This was probably cause those dudes have no game whatsoever nothing to do with her liking you, she was into you when she got the vibe from her friend that you were a "fun asshole". Also why were you watching her shut down dudes (unless it was funny) when you could have been meeting new girls and hooking up with them which would have made her want to fuck you at her place right next door. If your using the excuse of there were no other hot girls then use the fatty technique and make her steel you from a fatty your talking to so she can get a little ego boost ;).

"​I lifted her and she loved it"

  • Makeout time!

​"I was often clawing her as we were changing venues"

  • Clawing is for opening, try holding her hand when changing venues instead.

​"Next thing I knew both girls were fighting over me like “He’s my whore, I know him from work/ well he’s about to be mine” I don’t mean to brag but it was hilarious and fucking blew my mind"

  • Instead of your mind being blown you should have stayed poised and said something like "its ok i love you both" and gone for a double makeout.

"Fast forward we were in their house HBlatina’s getting handsy with me and dancing on me although her boytoy is standing on the side"

  • You should have hooked up with her, you said she was hot right... if you really like the other girl better then at least make out with the latina to get in the energy girls vagina. Or bang the latina girl really good so she talks about it to her friend so she'll want to fuck you too.
  • "boy toy standing on the side"= this girl likes to fuck alot, she is getting handsy and dancing with you, the dude is out of the picture even though hes in the same room, hes a boytoy so he doesnt really mean that much to her therefore she would have fucked you 

"Meanwhile HBenergy was dancing on the table knocking bottles over"

  • Probably cause she was sexually frustrated (HAHAHA attempted joke)

See how you had a shitload of opportunities but that one simple mindset was holding you back? If they do view you as the "fun asshole" then your not doing anything wrong by hooking up with whoever you feel like whenever you feel like.

If your worried about getting rejected by going for it and destroying your "social circle" think of it this way... you go for it and she kisses back then you can sit back fuck around, chill, build sexual tension and let her game you. You go for it and she rejecets you at which point you can say something like "Im sorry i just thought you liked me". If she says she does then you can chill and go for it again when you think shes ready. I usually just do it right after hahaha. If she says she doesnt like you that way then you can say "Okay lets just be best friends then :)" then you can use her to bang her friends and she'll help you because she knows your a guy who has balls and respects himself enough to go for what he wants. 

 

MAIN LESSON= You need to work on showing your intent especially if your not making out with them. You should change your goal for the night so its not focused on one girl but rather focused on giving out free orgasms to every sexy girl.

Hope this helps

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I like some of what durr city



I like some of what durr city had to say. In my opinion, all of this extra texting and thinking and worry and stress could have been eliminated if you would have thrown HBlatina over your shoulder and isolated her and it sounds like by this time it was late you could have banged the hell out of her. Whether it be the front porch, the backyard or the attick.

 The two girls were in fact fighting with each other over you. Girls will sacrifice for the other in order to save their friendship. That is why HBenergy refused to grab your extended arm. She was handing you over to HBlatina.

You have lead girls brother in every aspect.

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Bam, intent! I've defninitely

Bam, intent! I've defninitely lack it. 

I can't remember the last time i've said somehting as simple as "You're cute, I wanna kiss you" for example. 

Anyways she invited me tonight. Wil do a write-up tomorrow when I sober up.... FUCK!.... Gonorreah!.... Aids..... Shit1.....

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So yeah towards the end of my

So yeah towards the end of my shift she asked for my after-work plans. One of her roomies was celebrating her birthday and she wanted me there.

I showed up later that night and it was 6 of us: Birthday girl and HBlatina with their "boyfriends" leaving me to do work on HBenergy.

I spent a decent amount of time at the beginning socializing and loosening up with everyone in the room. It was all fun even though i've yet to do anything significant with HBenergy.

Fast forward HBenergy went into her room, followed by HBlatina seconds later. This is where I remembered you guys' tips and that i need to quit bullshitting.

I was having the gut feeling HBenergy was in her room with HBlatina like "why isn't he making a move? Am I doing something wrong? Yadada" you get the picture. There was no real hint to this, aside from the fact that my girl decided to exclude herself for a second. They came back out after like 3mins then all took more shots. Not long after i grabbed HBenergy by the hand and said "Come outside with me, I need to show you something"

No questions were asked, I took her to the backyard. Now I kind of fucked up in my execution here: I turned back to her, stared her dead in the eye "Can I be honest with you?... I want to kiss you right now" instead of just DOING it like I used to. She was like "Oh my gawd Guru! hahah I have a boyfriend" then proceeded to back it up with morals and this shit:

Her relationship is on the rocks that i'll be next/ she's going to break up with him/ her relationships don't last long/ she gets bored fast and initiates the break-ups.

I said some shit, flipped the script and told her I would be the one to break-up with her. She then implied that If we were to do anything, I would have to get her really fucked up.

This is where I drew the line mentally as I was not about to fuck a chick borderline blacked-out. Been there, not my cup of tea. This gave me more incentives to be a faggot for the rest of the night.

She eventually walked back inside alone making comment pertaining to the whole boyfriend thing towards the group (I was too far to hear) which confirmed in my head that she most likely has one.

Anyways she spent the next 30mins interacting with birthday girl and her man. Next thing I knew I was dragged by Birthday girl's man, whom i've been chatting with prior, to HBenergy's room to take shots. He eventually disappeared for whatever reason, then birthday girl said she felt like throwing up. Right there my gut told me this may be a setup (she didn't drink that much imo), she walked out closing the door behind her. I was left with HBenergy who was laying on her bed. I didn't really attempt anything this time, just shits and giggles. We separated again before returning to her room maybe 20mins later to let her know I was leaving. She told me to text her the next day to party it up again. Shit didn't really go anywhere. 

12/18/2013

ME: (7:50pm) FUCK.... finally off work

HER: (7:51pm) dammmmn

ME: (8:45PM) yeah i'm pretty butthurt about it :p... What mischief did you get yourself into

HER: (8:56pm) I went shopping and now i'm at a restaurant eating!

ME: (9:07pm) what did you get me

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You realize you're making

You realize you're making bullshit rationalizations as to why you never pull the trigger, right? 

Don't post another topic until you step up and get laid. 

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Yeah it's why I stopped

Yeah it's why I stopped responding to your posts mang. Same thing over and over again. Your "game" is proficient. It's your complete lack of control over your environment, which completely undermines your trust in yourself, which is why you never step up and execute the program. 

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Props to G-Money and



Props to G-Money and Manwhore. Yeah dude you uuuhhh lay in bed with chicks by yourself and not make a move often??? Lame dude.

Your thinking wayy too much. If you wanna get laid then get laid. A girl telling you she has to be fucked up for this to happen just means way until later in the night. A girl leaving her friend on a couch with you is the GREEN LIGHT for all parties involved!! And no more asking or telling girls you want to kiss them just fucking do it. Even if its a peck on the lips. I often give a girl a quick peck on the lips then laugh in her face just to see how she'll react. Kissing is not a big deal!!

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It's not even asking or

It's not even asking or telling her you to kiss her that's the issue. I've done the same thing countless times. But you're not being congruent. You tell her something, and your actions don't align. It's like Tyler and company say "when guys step to girls they want to 1. Get laid and 2. Get out without looking bad. Whichever one you want more will manifest." 

I would say your game is all about not looking bad. If you don't even force the issue and make mistakes, how do you expect to get better? It's simply not possible. This would be like me telling everyone I want to compete in a physique competition but consistently eating a shitty diet and never working out. Do you see how lame that is? Do you find solace or comfort in the fact that you're writing these long posts that essentially amount to nothing? This would piss me off and make me push harder to get laid. You can have the best game in the world but if you can't go laid it doesn't mean shit.