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Frustrating as Hell- Pulling a lot but not getting laid

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I think in the last 7 weeks I've pulled girls back to our crib something like 8 times.   Some of those were solo, and many of those were with wings.  Most of those were groups of 2-3 girls, including a couple of mixed sets with a dude(lol).  The one girl that was a 1 on 1 pull was the girl I got a bj from.  

I only get a bj from one of them, and makeouts with a few.  The only sex I've had this month is with a repeat bang from April.  

The reasons why I haven't been closing are quite a few but I see a few major threads.  These are all basic things I should be doing right but have been fucking up on.  Yeah its cringeworthy as fuck but I need to write this down so I can correct it.  This is all shit that I can correct by focusing on them and reviewing my old drills and notes.

1.  Not framing the interaction as "we're gonna fuck"  before we get to the crib.  Most times I get laid Its been very on before we got to my place, and I usually have danced/grinded or madeout with them so they knew what was up.   More importantly it gave me freedom to go for it aggresively when we get back because that frame is set.  

2.  Weak closing skills. This ties in with the first one in that I suck at transitioning from just flirting verbally to actually getting sexual(i.e makeing out, groping her, that kind of shit).  Its always a bit awkward with me when I do that and just go for it.  I always rely on alchohol for this, even though I don't drink on my nights usually, when I get back to my crib I always take 1 or 2 shots to get me comfortable with escalating.  Its been worse recently.  I pulled a group of 3 with my friend, and I had isolated my girl but I was taking way too long to actually get physical and when I went for the makeout she rejected me and had decided I was a faggot at that point.

3.  Not leading hard enough.  During pulls there are times where I'm permission seeking instead of making it happen.  I can think of a couple pulls where my wing lead head where I didn't.   Additionally back at the crib I need to start making bolder moves and pulling girls from group settings to my own room which I'm being a bit slow on.  Both of my roommates are very solid so I unsconsciously start leading them lead the tempo.  I need to be aware of this so I can make the moves and get things moving to make shit happen.  

4.  Lack of preparation.  There have been a couple of times where we had no alchohol at the crib.  We're getting better at that nowdays.

5.  Bad luck.  I had one girl DTF and giving me head, and then she started feeling sick so we never ended up hooking up.  We literally had a couple of drinks but apparently she had done a bunch of drugs earlier in the night on an empty stomach so I ended playing babysitter. She crashed at the place but left in the morning.  

6.  Outcome dependence.  My wings say they can clearly see I want the result bad when I get back which makes my game worse and I have a needier vibe. 

There's a bunch of stuff in here i need to start drilling and visualizing on so I can start closing regularly.  

I'm also thinking of not drinking any booze anymore when I pull back so I don't have to rely on that.  Not sure how girls would react to that though.  

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You need to mesh your verbals

You need to mesh your verbals with physical. We talked about this often. That's the main segue. Being sober will probably make things worse, it will not make things better at this particular stage. You have nothing to gain and a lot to lose at this point. 

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Manwhore wrote: You need to

Manwhore wrote:
You need to mesh your verbals with physical. We talked about this often. That's the main segue. Being sober will probably make things worse, it will not make things better at this particular stage. You have nothing to gain and a lot to lose at this point. 

You're right.   Ok that's going to priority number 1 for this weekend.  

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Manwhore wrote: You need to

Manwhore wrote:
You need to mesh your verbals with physical. We talked about this often. That's the main segue. Being sober will probably make things worse, it will not make things better at this particular stage. You have nothing to gain and a lot to lose at this point. 

hahahahah truth!!!!!  

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