Girl just texted me "Do you have your own place?"
So, I have a potential meet-up tonight with a girl, and she just texted me "Do you have your own place?
She's 21 I'm 26
I don't know how to respond without losing value in her eyes, since I'm living with my parents.
Got everything else handled in my life.. but still working this one out.
Also,
It's not like i can't bring her back to my room.. my parents don't care.
"My parents stay with me, what about you"
would prob sound better. If you ask me it shouldn't be a big deal especially if your parents don't care.
She's 21 so I would imagine she's used to meeting guys under 30 living with their parents... especially if they're in college.
I'm thinking it's the standard disqualify or make it a bigger deal than it is...
"Just so you know, I live with my parents so I can protect them in case someone tries to break into their house."
"Just so you know, I live with my parents and they have cameras set up in my room..."
Just say yes you do
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
^haha! Yeah don't tell her. Make it like weekend at Bernie's where he's in the living room with the girl and his dad walks in in his underwear. The guy tries to act like his dads the butler: "could you lay out my suit for tomorrow?" His dad says "how 'bout I lay you out!" HAHAHA classic
^ Yeah.. totally. She'd be like, "You lied!" I'd be like.. "Yes."
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
^ Yeah.. totally. She'd be like, "You lied!" I'd be like.. "Yes."
lol
Well, here's how it went down, Was just honest with her.
Her: Heyyy what are you doing tonight?
Me: Was going to hit up downtown fullerton, but my buddy might not be able to make it out, so im not sure yet, how about you?
Her: I dont know! i wanted to go to downtown fullerton buttttt everone's being lame
(30 minutes later)
Me: Sorry about that, was driving.. I'm about to grub on some delicious in n out.. I'm down to hang tonight
Her: In and out! That's bad!! (she's into fitness)
Me: I deserve it, Killed it in the gym this morning
Her: I killed legs last night I'm hurting
me: Nice, standing up and sitting down must feel amazing, did you squat?
her: Squats, Dead lifts, lunges, leg presses
me: so your butt must be sore too
her: It isss and I ammmmm
me: Did I tell you i'm a professional masseuse??
Her: No way! haha (I'm not really....)
her: Do you have your own place?
me: I'm living w/ my parents at the moment, i've lived with roommates and didn't work out too well, so plan on saving till i can buy a house, you?
her: same
her: was gonna come over for a massage
Me: my parents are pretty chill, I do my thing and come and go as i please.. They know im a big boy now
her: hmmmmmmm
(10 minutes go by)
Me: No pressure.. I understand if strong hands and massages aren't your thing.. it'll be on the table if you change your mind
her: maybe i'll change my mind.
me: since your friends are being lame.. I'm also down to not be lame and grab a drink w/you or critique your squat form
her: (sends me pictures of legs, laying in bed holding Aleve pills) I'm Hurting..
her: where do you live?
Me: ( My city)
Me: You're from (city) right?
her:yea
me: well you're in "i'll pick up you up" distance
(silence)
then she text me the next morning "goood morning good morning!"
... so I don't know where I went wrong.. we have never met in person before.. she's from pof.
^ Yeah.. totally. She'd be like, "You lied!" I'd be like.. "Yes."
lol
Well, here's how it went down, Was just honest with her.
Her: Heyyy what are you doing tonight?
Me: Was going to hit up downtown fullerton, but my buddy might not be able to make it out, so im not sure yet, how about you?
Her: I dont know! i wanted to go to downtown fullerton buttttt everone's being lame
(30 minutes later)
Me: Sorry about that, was driving.. I'm about to grub on some delicious in n out.. I'm down to hang tonight
Her: In and out! That's bad!! (she's into fitness)
Me: I deserve it, Killed it in the gym this morning
Her: I killed legs last night I'm hurting
me: Nice, standing up and sitting down must feel amazing, did you squat?
her: Squats, Dead lifts, lunges, leg presses
me: so your butt must be sore too
her: It isss and I ammmmm
me: Did I tell you i'm a professional masseuse??
Her: No way! haha (I'm not really....)
her: Do you have your own place?
me: I'm living w/ my parents at the moment, i've lived with roommates and didn't work out too well, so plan on saving till i can buy a house, you?
her: same
her: was gonna come over for a massage
Me: my parents are pretty chill, I do my thing and come and go as i please.. They know im a big boy now
her: hmmmmmmm
(10 minutes go by)
Me: No pressure.. I understand if strong hands and massages aren't your thing.. it'll be on the table if you change your mind
her: maybe i'll change my mind.
me: since your friends are being lame.. I'm also down to not be lame and grab a drink w/you or critique your squat form
her: (sends me pictures of legs, laying in bed holding Aleve pills) I'm Hurting..
her: where do you live?
Me: ( My city)
Me: You're from (city) right?
her:yea
me: well you're in "i'll pick up you up" distance
(silence)
then she text me the next morning "goood morning good morning!"
... so I don't know where I went wrong.. we have never met in person before.. she's from pof.
Shouldve framed it as a challenge, you didnt have enough investment to pull off that limp request for hanging out. Your texts subtly come off as eager to please as well, which is the opposite of what you want. A challenge would've made shit fun, light, and probably would've been enough to push her over the edge. She was def thinking about it but you axed yerself for the night.
Shouldve framed it as a challenge, you didnt have enough investment to pull off that limp request for hanging out. Your texts subtly come off as eager to please as well, which is the opposite of what you want. A challenge would've made shit fun, light, and probably would've been enough to push her over the edge. She was def thinking about it but you axed yerself for the night.
thanks for the advice.
Update:
Me: What are you up to
her: Just woke up
me: perfect timing for a messy hair pic
her: (sends me a pic of her in booty shorts and a sports bra with messy hair) " Gym time and messy hair ;)
me: lookin delicious, your thighs look tense though and your hair isnt messy enough.. needs my expertise
her: hahaha and your expertise is?
me: making your hair more of a mess and releasing that tension.. #stronghands
her: you're good. Lol
me: the best
Any ideas where to take this? I want to get her over tonight.. she's going to the gym right now.. Should I leave it be from here and wait for her to text back?
Should have qualified it, even playfully. "Yes I'm good it's why I demand 8 sandwiches". Instead you woofed gratefully when she gave you a pat on the head. Got to keep up the tension
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Should have qualified it, even playfully. "Yes I'm good it's why I demand 8 sandwiches". Instead you woofed gratefully when she gave you a pat on the head. Got to keep up the tension
Damn, lesson learned.
Since she's probably at the gym by now.. Should I just give this interaction some time before I text back? Or wait for her to text.
I'm always battling between "Not wanting to be needy/desperate" and "Wanting to push the interaction further"..
Met this girl from POF about 2 weeks ago.
Within 2 weeks, we've chatted about 4-5 times
she always responds well to me
Just can't get the meet up.
Conversation is always good, but when meet-up gets mentioned, she either starts getting shy on me, or becomes less responsive.
Trying to get HER to invest.. so the meet-up comes natural.
I'm curious.. did you expect her to reply to "the best"? And if you did, where were you leading this to?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
To be honest. No I didn't.
My mindset was.
"She's about to go to the gym.. So might as well put the cherry on top" (halfass cherry) and wait for her to get back.
but in the back of my mind, I also thought.. let's see what she says back to this. (so far nothing)
her: Do you have your own place?
me: I'm living w/ my parents at the moment, i've lived with roommates and didn't work out too well, so plan on saving till i can buy a house, you?
her: same
her: was gonna come over for a massage
Me: my parents are pretty chill, I do my thing and come and go as i please.. They know im a big boy now
her: hmmmmmmm
She asked you for a massage and you're still talking about your parents!!!
Later in the convo you shouldn't have given her the option to 'change her mind'
And her friends being lame could have been framed differently or just left out completely - although you did get the pic of her legs** Maybe should have started sexting from there?
Dude she said she wanted to come over for a massage? What the fuck is your problem dude!
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Public outing if shes shy, which conveniently segways into doing other shit which also coincidentally is RIGHT by your house.
Dude she said she wanted to come over for a massage? What the fuck is your problem dude!
I dont know .... This shit is relatively new to me and I'm still working on my text game. Which isn't great obviously.
Hoping to take your coaching soon.
That's not text game that's, "Can I come over and get fucked now?"
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Update:
This is going on right now.
Me: What are you up to
Her: Just finished at the gym on my way home
Her: You?
Me: You're such a copy cat... and you shouldn't be texting and driving.. tsk tsk, I'm gonna call the cops
Her: Hahah copy cat? Pshhh I'm here everday. It's my routine.
Me: Lets find out how much of a copy cat you are.. what did you workout today?
Her: 1 hour of cardio and 20 minutes of sauna
Me: it's official you're a copycat or we just a have a mental connection going on. I'll let you decide. Are you wearing blue underwear too??
Her: OMG i am
Her: I swear lol
Me: Do you feel that?
her: ???
Me: that tension between us. the universe is giving us a message. We can't deny the universe
Me: It's saying " No need for hugs and hello's.. you can skip straight to cuddling" :)
(So far waiting for a response) It's only been about 5 minutes..
If she doesn't text back after that.. I'm just going to give this interactions some time to breathe.. and text her in 2 weeks or something.
I'm getting the vibe that she's either cautious, shy, or too timid to meet up with a guy online. That or I suck. Maybe I should just fucking call her.
I've also noticed.. we've never had a real conversation.. But I rather save that for the meet-up. I have a feeling that could be a sticking point. But from my RSD learnings.. It's not a good thing to get too logical through text..so I tend to stray away from it.
Keep em coming
So I dont get it. no response after that.
by the looks of her Instagram..she kindve seems like a "good girl"..but then again she contemplated coming over for a massage...so I don't get it.
shes a cutie so im sure she's getting hit up left and right on pof. Maybe some guy is throwin better game than me.
mind fuck she is.
should i drop the self amusing, escalating text and just try to be real with her. is coming across too playerish a thing?
So you're starting to doubt game exists, think this one is "special", and wonder if you should just drop game and be "real" with her.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I guess I'm doubting my game.
Brad B. put a video out called "Advanced Text Game: The Tightrope Act of High Value Texting" (I just noticed he took it down)
And he explained how sometimes he has to "chode it up" a bit just to stay on the girls level.
Since this girl just randomly stops texting when I amp it up like that.. I was just thinking I might need to "dumb it down" a bit and just shoot the shit with her logically.
I dunno.
I also gotta remind myself ... "ABUNDANCE" because I can tell I'm getting antsy for a response from her.
You've already lost here mang. You getting antsy waiting for a response from her means you're not even clearheaded here and can't lead correctly. You're screaming running around looking for more and more text guides just to handle this one girl. Not going to work holmes. Also, Brad does not run text game, never developed any, only writes on it for marketing/SEO/google purposes.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
You've already lost here mang. You getting antsy waiting for a response from her means you're not even clearheaded here and can't lead correctly. You're screaming running around looking for more and more text guides just to handle this one girl. Not going to work holmes. Also, Brad does not run text game, never developed any, only writes on it for marketing/SEO/google purposes.
Fuck! That is so well said MW
Me: Do you feel that?
her: ???
Me: that tension between us. the universe is giving us a message. We can't deny the universe
Me: It's saying " No need for hugs and hello's.. you can skip straight to cuddling" :)
I don't know but to me that last part seemed really, really, super gay! If that's your idea of being too gamerish then clearly your idea of game is ass backwards.
When she said she was wearing blue underwear you went for a super strong connection and brougt up really fagotty universe stuff, pretty much implying that you'd take it up the ass for this girl who you haven't even met yet. It seemed like you were really forcing a connection, which comes accross very weak.
I would have just broke rapport and then joked, 'we're too similar, it's weird! One of us is going to have to go commando and lord knows I need the support"
Did you say we can skip straight to cuddling??? Your giving her wayy to much validation by asking her about her panties, and morning messy hair pics. Girls love to show off and have guys drooling all over them and thats exactly what your doing except girls dont fuck those guys, they leave them in a world of wonder and jerk off land.
Your doing fine but you definitely need to 1) Just say you have room mates but they are never home...or something similar 2) If she asks you to come over for a massage make it a win/win. You give her a massage while she makes sandwiches for you, or she has to cut your hair. Anything that does not make it look like you'll do anything to have her. Get it? win/win. 3) Read manwhores text game article.
Thanks for keeping it real guys.
I'm still learning.
Update:
Me: do you hate me?
Her: no way, why!
Her: you hate me!
Me: I hate you? I feel like I can open up to you ( not really.. just choding it up a bit, and trying a new approach)
her: why would you ask if I hated you?
Me: I dunno...never mind i asked
Her: weird
Me: Thought I might've made you mad
Her: well you were kinda being a weee bit perverted lol
Me: lol cuddles? matching blue underwear? Maybe I was too forward
Her: I think it was the inviting me over for a massage part. Lol. sorry im just miss good girl.
It might be getting to the point I'm just burning it to the ground... lol. yay reference experience.
You set yourself up for this.
You set yourself up for this.
I'm sure I did.. but Gotta learn somehow right?
Update:
Me: I can see that coming off wrong.. But I'm mister good guy, I promise
Me: (Sends picture of a sleeping panda) g'night (her name)
Her: Lol a panda? Goodnight talk to you tomorrow
(end)
The ship may be filling up with water.. But There might be a chance.
Hey atleast you ended it with a learning lesson. Do you see how she accused you of inviting her over for a massage? When she clearly invited herself over. She wants no responsibility in the relationship ending in a weird way. In her mind its not her fault. A lot of beautiful girls are like this. Good learning lesson.
Yep, I did notice that.
I just didn't want to get into it with her about it and keep moving things forward.
Will hit her up some other time.
Hey atleast you ended it with a learning lesson. Do you see how she accused you of inviting her over for a massage? When she clearly invited herself over. She wants no responsibility in the relationship ending in a weird way. In her mind its not her fault. A lot of beautiful girls are like this. Good learning lesson.
Dude. You acted like such a faggot that she "forgot" she was the one that invited herself over for a massage. Get it? What are these texts dude. What. Are. These. Texts.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Ouch dude lol. You're going to look back on these texts one day soon and laugh your ass off! Haha! I think back to some early interactions when I was getting back in the game that are just as fucking cringe-worthy.. My first sexual encounter when getting back in the game just after I started coaching is one example, MW would probably agree was pretty bad. HA! Well I got mocked and berated the appropriate amount and I've come a long way since then.. A LONG way. That was half a year ago. I have zero doubt that there will be times ahead for me to be harassed and ridiculed for some stupid shit I did, said or txtd a girl. So much power comes from airing out your embarrassing shit to be judged, scrutinized, even mocked.. The obvious benefit is the direct learning experience of trying, reference experiences, input form guys with difference skills and experience, correction, repeat; which is huge obviously. I've noticed an added benefit to this model of learning too: when you've got someone calling you a fag for the stupid shit you do or say time and time again, you realize that the abuse is actually easy to take, that nothing really bad comes of it, that even though you fuck up everything's still totally ok. This helps makes you unreactive, unflappable and thusly invincible.
keep it up player
her: was gonna come over for a massage
Me: my parents are pretty chill, I do my thing and come and go as i please.. They know im a big boy now
her: hmmmmmmm
ok.. To be fair; it wasn't this bad. HAHAHA! Oh my god dude.. OH. MY. GOD.
LOL. .. "my parents know I'm a bigboy.."
Update:Me: do you hate me?
Her: no way, why!
Her: you hate me!
Me: I hate you? I feel like I can open up to you ( not really.. just choding it up a bit, and trying a new approach)
her: why would you ask if I hated you?
Me: I dunno...never mind i asked
Her: weird
Me: Thought I might've made you mad
Her: well you were kinda being a weee bit perverted lol
Me: lol cuddles? matching blue underwear? Maybe I was too forward
Her: I think it was the inviting me over for a massage part. Lol. sorry im just miss good girl.
It might be getting to the point I'm just burning it to the ground... lol. yay reference experience.
Uhm you realize that you're new approach of trying to be real and choding it up a bit actually comes across super, super fake! Girls are smart, they can see through that. I think you're too scared of creating any tension with this girl. You're trying to appease her and it kills all attraction.
This whole text interaction makes you look like a big homo. "Never mind I asked." "Thought I might've made you mad"
C'mon dude! Totally killing any and all attraction she had for you.
have you read MWs "19 rules of text game" article?
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have you read MWs "19 rules of text game" article?
yes I have.
I know I've been fucking up a lot..
The next interaction I have with her... I'm going to hold my frame better and have a clearer head about it.
I'm either going to bang this chick, or burn it to the ground. There's no fucking way I'm going to be a "Validation satellite" for her.
I've been active in game for about a year and a half and have been paying my dues as far as rejections in-field goes.. But now that I'm finally having success with getting numbers / POF numbers..
I guess I have to "pay my dues" with texting and learn how to do this shit properly.
Texting girls is pretty new to me. I know a lot of the stuff I say might sound chodey through text.. But in person If I were to say "do you hate me?" "My parents know I'm a big boy".. I'm able pull shit like that off in-field because I say it in a "cheeky" way that is still offering value. I say shit like that with a smirk on my face. Not like :( do you hate me? Did I make you mad baby? please forgive me!.. etc.
But through text.. there's no sub-coms involved (at least I dont think).. and it's harder to get my personality across.
But I'm starting to see where I'm fucking up and am avoiding doing shit like that again.
Appreciate your input guys.. a lot of it is making me laugh.. even the "your such a faggot" stuff LOL
Btw.. I was attempting to take a page from Julien with the drama stuff.. But I FUCKED that one up.
I think you're missing a key pont here. The girl was wanting to come over for a massage and you changed the subject. If shes down to come over, your job is to facilitate that. thats where you cut the shit, its time to fuck. feel me?
Feel you. 
oh god! with the thumb? LOL
Fyi op there are "subcoms" in texting. Multiple layers of communication just like irl. Emojis, ellipses, not responding, responding too quickly, double texting, triple texting. Texting at 2am "whats up". Shit if a girl has mispelled a fuck ton and its late on a weekend and she isn't one to typo a lot then i would operate under the assumption that she's drunk and wants to get piped down. So there's a lot to read into text. It is all very contextual. This girl doesn't think yer a boss or else those some of those same texts would've been interpreted by her differently. ( For some it was just god awful texting )
The reason mw and a couple of us are giving you such a hard time is that some of these texts are beyond the excuse of "oh im learning". It's like common sense shit on what not to do, not even with just girls. Don't take this the wrong way, but you strike me as a real hard case noob. And that's ok. But some of this shit is like a no brainer man. You shouldn't be texting girls " why do you hate me? " or any fucking variation of that to any girl. Let alone some random girl from pof who isn't important in your life. That shit is just weird as fuck and will send girls RUNNING , not walking - RUNNING away from you. Texting becomes the eye opener to your progress in field when you can't slam a chick on the same night. Basically what I'm saying on one hand it is good to operate under the mentality of burning shit to the ground, but on the other hand don't use that to slack off on your shit and just brush it off as "aw im learning". These are people too, don't forget that.
Back to this girl. Shoot the shit with her and invite her out. She wants some dick, she just thinks you're possibly weird. Somewhere public since you came off creepy as fuck.
That will be your best bet.
Makes sense and thanks for the advice.
Well said.
Fyi op there are "subcoms" in texting. Multiple layers of communication just like irl. Emojis, ellipses, not responding, responding too quickly, double texting, triple texting. Texting at 2am "whats up". Shit if a girl has mispelled a fuck ton and its late on a weekend and she isn't one to typo a lot then i would operate under the assumption that she's drunk and wants to get piped down. So there's a lot to read into text. It is all very contextual. This girl doesn't think yer a boss or else those some of those same texts would've been interpreted by her differently. ( For some it was just god awful texting ) The reason mw and a couple of us are giving you such a hard time is that some of these texts are beyond the excuse of "oh im learning". It's like common sense shit on what not to do, not even with just girls. Don't take this the wrong way, but you strike me as a real hard case noob. And that's ok. But some of this shit is like a no brainer man. You shouldn't be texting girls " why do you hate me? " or any fucking variation of that to any girl. Let alone some random girl from pof who isn't important in your life. That shit is just weird as fuck and will send girls RUNNING , not walking - RUNNING away from you. Texting becomes the eye opener to your progress in field when you can't slam a chick on the same night. Basically what I'm saying on one hand it is good to operate under the mentality of burning shit to the ground, but on the other hand don't use that to slack off on your shit and just brush it off as "aw im learning". These are people too, don't forget that. Back to this girl. Shoot the shit with her and invite her out. She wants some dick, she just thinks you're possibly weird. Somewhere public since you came off creepy as fuck. That will be your best bet.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male