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What do you guys suggest I do when a girl texts the whole time on a day 2 never been in that situation before... Quite annoying

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Ask her what the fuck she's

Ask her what the fuck she's doing. That's bullshit 

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I told her she was being dull

I told her she was being dull and I didn't want to interrupt her "important convo" on the phone and I left her there. She later called me saying she was so sorry she was just really tired and into her show and stuff. I was very distant on the phone but didn't accept her apology. 

I been getting into a lot more Tolle and I'm talking a lot with my dad lately and I gotta say I'm learning a lot about just being a man. I was proud of myself for getting up and leaving. She begged me to see her again on Wednesday night so I don't know if I will. She offered to pay for whatever we do too

shes hot but she was so hard to escalate with, constantly being on her phone and shit. I hate that. Also she's got one bitchy "I don't care" attitude. Super difficult to deal with, single handedly one of the most difficult chicks I've interacted with before in a man to woman setting. 

Should I take her up on her offer? I was hoping to get it in tonight but the lay didn't happen. 

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Cool. Ya with the Tolle you

Cool. Ya with the Tolle you realise that you can set boundaries without bringing in emotion; you can state what is acceptable to you or not without making yourself or the other person feel bad.

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Yeah I didn't freak out I was

Yeah I didn't freak out I was really calm and just.. Assertive? But more so just a serious tone and relaxed body language if you can kind of picture that. 

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Yes of course, claim your

Yes of course, claim your reward. 

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Wow, never had that happen.

Wow, never had that happen. You definitely did the right thing by leaving. I don't go out of my way to make females feel bad but that is one instance where what you did was totally warranted. And by setting the boundary she sees you're not a faggot.

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Yeah man, I didn't act hurt

Yeah man, I didn't act hurt about it or anything but I let her know it wasn't cool, I didn't have time for that and she'd have to earn my attention/presence next time. 

Ill see her wednesday then, she wanted to meet Thursday but I have the Vancouver free tour I wanted to go to hahaha

also how do you guys think I should blast through her attitude? It's quite bitchy to be honest

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Unreactive and piercing as

Unreactive and piercing as fuck. I've got an old podcast up with Brian where I detailed how I handled a date with a girl like this. Fucked her 

Oh dude I wrote an LR on it lol. 3 1/2 minutes on the clock look it up

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Talk about perfect timing

Talk about perfect timing haha I'll check it out right now man

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Either way, texting the whole

Either way, texting the whole night when you're out with someone is rude, but I think it's important for learning purposes to figure out WHY she's doing it. There could be a nuber of reasons.

She's not interested in you or the date, so she's ignoring you.

She has a legitimate thing she needs to respond to. (Her mother is in the hospital. She thinks she's about to get fired. Whatever.)

She's just a rude person.

She's trying to play games and be manipulative.

If girls are constantly not interested in you sexually and that's why they're doing it maybe you need to work on getting girls interested in you.

If you're constantly getting girls that are just rude. Maybe you need to screen better.

If it's a legit emergency, there's nothing you can do. No point trying to punish her for it. It'll just make you come off as an asshole.

I think before we ask what to do about it, we should figure out why she's doing it so we can learn from the experience. 

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To be 100% honest, if I can

To be 100% honest, if I can remember correctly, she was just on Tinder and texting, so I don't think that was an emergency...

I found it really rude and just flat out confusing...

I also got another text from her today that said she might be busy babysitting (her job) tomorrow night so she doesn't know if she's going to be able to see me and that she'd let me know. I blantly replied "K"

I've never met a girl quite as rude as this one, I mean the initial meet she was okay, I thought she was just tipsy/joking around, but now I'm beginning to sense she's got this strange attitude. She claims to like me etc. It's not like we didn't kiss or hug or anything but the fact she was on her phone was irritating.

I don't have a lot of free time so when I make time to see someone I expect them to enjoy my company and return the respect I've given them. I honestly, don't care if she messages me tomorrow to let me know what's happening with that day 2 cause I don't particularily want to see her after that shit... I been thinking and I'm way too busy for crap like that. Plus I'm a man of value, I have tons of great qualities and for someone to brush me off like that whether they were games or not is not really worth my time. I can easily find another girl who'd appreciate my company.. 

Bit of a realization I had today while just chatting with random chicks at school.

Plus theres a Inner Circle Meeting tmr night that I would like to attend so it's not too big of a deal for me if this chick doesnt reply, I don't care how hot she is, that behavior is unacceptable and I'm not having it.

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On Tinder during your date?

On Tinder during your date? Lol that's funny man

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It's funny now but I was

It's funny now but I was choked at the time

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Did you say anything about it

Did you say anything about it to her? 

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Lmaooon did you met her on

Lmaooon did you met her on tinder?

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Yeah I told her I didn't

Yeah I told her I didn't appreciate it and I didn't want to stick around to watch her play with her phone or something like that and I left

no I met her at a bar

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Main thing dude.. you have to

Main thing dude.. you have to learn how to project disapproving emotions onto a girl, even disgust if it's needed. Bad behavior from a chick requires emotional projection, not logic.

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I agree 100% but I am always

I agree 100% but I am always told to do it from a place of value/non-reactive like be stern and state what's unacceptable. Basically highlighting your boundaries and I tried to do that in a way that wasn't "chodey"

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AP_Grappler wrote: I agree

AP_Grappler wrote:
I agree 100% but I am always told to do it from a place of value/non-reactive like be stern and state what's unacceptable. Basically highlighting your boundaries and I tried to do that in a way that wasn't "chodey"

Gay nonsense. 

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What would you have done in



What would you have done in this situation MW? Called her out verbally and gave her a dismissive or disgusted look?

Like, "Bitch, do you even interact with people??"

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Yeah what should I have done?

Yeah what should I have done? I clearly didn't get her respect from it because she flaked the following meet up but I didn't sound like a pushover when I addressed her

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wow reminds me when my sister

wow reminds me when my sister was throwing a party.

These two girls chat me up, yet they're all over their fucking phones.

I made them feel like absolute shit. At first I was cool about it. Then the third time I just destroyed them. Told them to get the fuck out of my house. They ran out like they just shat their pants, it was hilarious. 

But yah, occasionally this issue comes up because I fuck a lot of 18 yeras olds. I tell them right away, "if you're going to be on your phone the entire time we hangout, we can stop right here" 

If they put up a fight they you can almost certainly assure yourself you dodged a fucking bullet. Most likely, they'll apologize and from there, you have a ton of emotional leverage that is powerful as fuck. Getting compliance and leading at this point is much more natural. 

Also this issue is a good place to shape a girls behavior positively. You can be like "you know what, I just have to tell you. I really like the fact how present you are. Some many people today are tied to their phones and can't go more than 5 minutes without looking at their phones." 

You can guarantee that she's not going to want to look at her phone after that ;) 

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It's a full-on expression of

It's a full-on expression of disapproval. 

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@PB  that was gold dude. I'm

@PB 

that was gold dude. I'm going to implement this whenever I can. I figure I was too nice about it now cause the way you described it was no bullshit/no room for compromise. I almost made it so that she had a chance to recover from it when I knew she had no intention on stopping .. At least judging by her attitude when I confronted her. 

@MW 

LOL those pics. Perfect displays of disapproval I suppose

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Imagine the girls is having a

Imagine the girls is having a drink with brad pitt. Is she going to be looking down at her phone every 5 minutes? Fuck no. 

You need to be arrogant in the way you see yourself in the world. If she is not 100% psyched to be hanging out with you then she should fuck off. 

When these girls at my sisters party were constantly looking down at their phones, it was as if they had murdered a puppy in front of me. I tore them to fucking pieces and booted them out fast. That is not the behavior that I surround myself with. IF you're going to be in my house and act like a retarded brat, I'm kicking you the fuck out. 

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What if you were say out

What if you were say out weird them would you just leave instead though? From a party perspective or even your house you could kick her out but I was actually at this girls house

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P.B. please let him have it. 

P.B. please let him have it. 

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AP_Grappler wrote: What if

AP_Grappler wrote:
What if you were say out weird them would you just leave instead though? From a party perspective or even your house you could kick her out but I was actually at this girls house

Lol dude you completely missed the point! 

 

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It doesn't matter if you're

It doesn't matter if you're at the girls house or the pumpkin patch for that matter.

You need to put your foot down and explain that this behavior is not acceptable. "look if you're going to be on your phone the entire time we hangout then I'll just leave now" 

If she doesn't get with the prorgram, let her fucking have it. "This shit is retraded. I'm here, I came to hangout with you and you're glued to your phone, what the fuck. Later girls, I didn't expect this behavior from you. Have a good night" 

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The fact that YOU DO NOT KNOW

The fact that YOU DO NOT KNOW what to do in this situation mean you need to figure out how do you see yourself.

This situation should elicit a reaction as quick as me putting an hot stove on your butt.

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Rael wrote: The fact that YOU

Rael wrote:
The fact that YOU DO NOT KNOW what to do in this situation mean you need to figure out how do you see yourself.

This situation should elicit a reaction as quick as me putting an hot stove on your butt.

Oh he definitely wants a hot stove on his butt. Give him one, Rael 

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My bad dudes. I definitely

My bad dudes. I definitely get it now, I should have put my foot down from the get go I let her have a chance or two with it. I know better for next time. This will basically apply to all behaviors that are unacceptable that they may be doing too then. 

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This is a really great

This is a really great thread. Lately I've had to learn the hard way that by not enforcing boundaries immediately, you're communicating to not only the girl but also to your own subconscious that you're a being a pussy and deserve to get stepped on. Its a compounding negative feedback loop. If it happens once and goes unchecked, you both know it can happen again. To me this means being more committed and attached to my own values than to any outcome. 

I'm not saying you're being a pussy, that's more of a reflection on my own recent issues but I think the principle applies

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No I completely agree with

No I completely agree with you jack. Just something I should have done from the get go. I chose the outcome over my values

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Jack.Ruby wrote: This is a

Jack.Ruby wrote:
This is a really great thread. Lately I've had to learn the hard way that by not enforcing boundaries immediately, you're communicating to not only the girl but also to your own subconscious that you're a being a pussy and deserve to get stepped on. Its a compounding negative feedback loop. If it happens once and goes unchecked, you both know it can happen again. To me this means being more committed and attached to my own values than to any outcome. 

I'm not saying you're being a pussy, that's more of a reflection on my own recent issues but I think the principle applies

Duh, dude. Two years later you finally figured this out, eh? Durrrr

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I know right. Duh. What's

I know right. Duh. What's really stupid is how obvious it was, I mean I would have recognized it instantly if I'd seen it in someone else. My head was just so far buried in my own ass I didn't even realize what was going on. 

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Same thoughts here mate

Same thoughts here mate

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