HB9 I'm texting, she has a boyfriend
So this girl I've been messaging for a while. We haven't hung out yet. When I first started texing her I had horrible text game, then when I started getting better she was more receptive. Then I was out of town for a few months and fucked it up by trying to continue texting her and snap chatting her.
Let it cool off and started messaging her again but she was still a lot more aloof. After she doesn't respond I say this:
me: Don't just ignore me, say something loser ;) (killer fucking reinitatier)
her: I'm driving back to Toronto! Haha worst timing ever
her: How have you been?
me: Haah k don't text and drive on my account
me: I've been quite great. Toronto is much more likable this time of the year. Have a safe drive
her: Thank you
a few hours later
me: Make it home in one piece
3 days later
her: Haha wow three days late
her: Yes I did I had class and had to make it there by 6
her: how's everything going with (name of my fitness business)
I'm actually surpirsed she is familar with my company haha. THat's a good sign
me: I guess I should call of the missing girl search
me: (my business) is going quite great, thanks!
her: Haha
her: That's good to hear!
me: Haha yah I'm so focused on growing and getting to the next level I forgot that I'm right where I wanted to be all along (covert dhv lol)
her: Awh
me: You're not very wordy eh
me: So laconic
her: I am usually wordy lol just busy
her: Are you back in Toronto?
me: Yep. Home sweet home as they say
was hoping she would chase lol, but she probably didn't want to or she knew she didn't have to. Also by saying home sweet home I was probably telegraphing that I wanted her to chase.
me: So naturally we're going to have to hangout
her: Naturally eh? We could do a friendly cup of coffee or drinks
me: Let's do drinks... Coffee puts me in work mode haha
her: Lol
I'm thinking that she can see that I want to get her out for drinks because i'll have a better chance with her. I do some sex qualification here.
me: I'm a classy lady tho, drinks doesn't mean anything is going to happen FYI
her: Hahah! I AM a classy lady
her: And a class lady in a relationship lol but I know you're a classy lady as well. Maybe drinks next week sometime
me: Drinks next week sounds good, maybe earls. I'll talk to you later bout it.
her: Yah or maybe somewhere on queen west
me: That works, where were u thinking. Nowhere too loud, I like to hear myself talk (I thought this line was fucking spectacular lol. An arrogant/funny way of handling good logistics)
her: Yah earls is kind of loud
her: Maybe spirit house, we'll see
Okay so what's the deal here. She's in a relationship and she's one of those dating type girls. Yet she knows we're not getting drinks as friends hahahah. So I'm assuming she's not satisfied with her guy. I think she's only been in a relationship for a couple months and it's not something she is crazy excited about. So she's probably just keeping her options open. I'd be surprised if I could make something sexual go down this night. But you never know.
How would you handle the relationship thing here. Obviously if she doen'st bring it up it's not a big deal. But if she does, then I will just have to project a more productive reality onto her. Like my frame should be that it doesn't matter that she has a bodfriend. I don't give a fuck and neither should see. So if she's like, "I have a boyfriend" I can just respond, "that's good" and if she's like "what are you doing I have a boyfriend." I can say "you're boyfriend isn't here to protect you, is he? I'm here!"
Thing is that if I make something go down in this fashion in could backfire and she might resent me if it makes her feel guility. Would love to get some of you fuckers advice and expertise here.
Maybe if my reality is
I'm so fucking high value, of course you're going to hook up with me right now. Your boyfriend doesn't stand a chance. And I would never hold something like that against you. In fact, it's a turn on that you're adventerous.
This would also be really importnat to use compliments to shape this girls behaviour during the date to make her want to maintain validation and fuck me
ex: I like how adventerous you are. you're your own girl, you do what you want and don't let other people control you. I can respect that.
Here's how I like looking at it, its an oversimplification but it works for me:
guys are responsible for expressing/asserting themselves. If they don't learn or do this, they will not find a mate, ever.
girls have careful choices to make. If they make poor choices, they will end up with no mate or the WRONG mate
you can see this model in action on pof, okc, whatever..
I try to take care of my own responsibility here. That is, focus on my own expression, assertiveness and leave others responsibilities to themselves
who are you to consider FOR that girl what choice she should make? If she calls you out, just tell her you believe in your own right of expression and her right to choose for herself
I like Jack Ruby's mindset. But I'm in the same situation right now. I'll post our convos in a little bit. Obviously she's attracted and wants to bang you but logically she's telling herself that nothing can happen. So just beast it during the date and then if she brings it up all you have to do is give her a little bit of logic to solidify the emotions she's feeling towards you. You can say something like what Todd says: "I know you have a boyfriend, but let's say we hook up and you still want to be with him that means you really do love him and its meant to be, but if we hook and you don't that means it wasn't meant to be and it was still the right thing to do." I think that would work but don't bring it up unless she does.
Here's how I like looking at it, its an oversimplification but it works for me:guys are responsible for expressing/asserting themselves. If they don't learn or do this, they will not find a mate, ever.
girls have careful choices to make. If they make poor choices, they will end up with no mate or the WRONG mate
you can see this model in action on pof, okc, whatever..
I try to take care of my own responsibility here. That is, focus on my own expression, assertiveness and leave others responsibilities to themselves
who are you to consider FOR that girl what choice she should make? If she calls you out, just tell her you believe in your own right of expression and her right to choose for herself
Great point, if she gives me shit for making a movie I can just say that. I believe in my own right to express myself and for you to choose for yourself.
I like Jack Ruby's mindset. But I'm in the same situation right now. I'll post our convos in a little bit. Obviously she's attracted and wants to bang you but logically she's telling herself that nothing can happen. So just beast it during the date and then if she brings it up all you have to do is give her a little bit of logic to solidify the emotions she's feeling towards you. You can say something like what Todd says: "I know you have a boyfriend, but let's say we hook up and you still want to be with him that means you really do love him and its meant to be, but if we hook and you don't that means it wasn't meant to be and it was still the right thing to do." I think that would work but don't bring it up unless she does.
Todd's line is really fucking solid. I'll keep that in mind. That's an incredible way of handling it.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
That's you over and over Bateman. These girls know you've got an online business, with your informercial style and "nice guy" syndrome they're trying to keep you in provider role. "Yes I can meet up for a friendly drink"
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I need to qualify that statement.. it's what you used to get, still would be getting except you got away from that BULLSHIT. Lol
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
That's you over and over Bateman. These girls know you've got an online business, with your informercial style and "nice guy" syndrome they're trying to keep you in provider role. "Yes I can meet up for a friendly drink"
Well good luck keeping me in a provider role when I ram my cock into their forehead!
Yah but don't worry, I'm going to be hard hitting and arrogant/funny as fuck.
I'd go with this:
"who are you to consider FOR that girl what choice she should make? If she calls you out, just tell her you believe in your own right of expression and her right to choose for herself"
and this " Well good luck keeping me in a provider role when I ram my cock into their forehead!"
very enticing combination lol
Next time if a girl asks me about my business/work... It's gonna be this
me: well it pays for all the strippers and cocaine so I can't complain