A Hot Girl & Her Fat Friend Walk Into a Bar...
Been trying to reconcile this topic of "dealing with the friends", "cockblocks", "motherhens" etc. etc.
This stuff has been beaten to death I know and I already understand how to deal with each scenario its just making the right decision in the moment that is holding me back.
So I see a an absolute bombshell of a girl and her fat friend standing around with drinks in their hands. I'm feeling good and all is well in the hood so I approach both of them at the same time but direct myself towards the fat friend first with a simple "Yo! What's up!" and stick my hand out....she's a bit hesitant (obviously) but I just stand there expecting her to stick it back. She does and I go into conversation with both of them only asking questions like "Whats your name, where are you from, what school you go to". I make funny comments about certain things and call them both gorgeous just cause I'm in that fun mood.
Both of them are really digging me and ESPECIALLY the hot one because I didn't go straight in on her...my attention has been shifting between them both with it leaning towards the fat one. Its amazing how simple it is to create attraction this way when you don't gun for the actual girl you want directly...she knows she's hot and is almost shocked that you don't care. In this situation, I actually didn't care, I was just having fun...which I believe, almost to a fault.
Out of nowhere, two huge black guys come in and one of them starts having fun dancing and screaming. That one was drunk af and grabs me and starts shaking me like "Whats up dude!". This didn't effect me in any shape or form and as he grabbed me I still had the same shit-eating grin on my face, smiling back at him, making eye contact the entire time. The other guy was just a bystander watching shit.
I quickly find out that they're all co-workers so these guys aren't randoms. Last night was kind of a blur because I approached so fucking much that they all start blending in together lol. No drugs or alcohol gents. Anyways, I forget why, but they all leave to go sit somewhere and I leave to go game more.
I come back later and the girls are again by themselves so I start telling them and edging them on to come sit with me. They follow me but once I sit down, the fat one says "We're gonna go dance...by ourselves".
She wasn't rude about it at all and was nothing but nice to me throughout the night but this was your typical scenario where the fattie calls the shots and the hottie is the lost puppy on a leash following its master around. So there was no place to start dropping fire on her.
After that, towards the end of the night, I'm standing there with some new girls and their whole co-worker crew of two black dudes, a hottie and a fatty are leaving, and as the hot one passes me by she gives me a little shoulder hand rub with her fingers. Basically, the one telling me that she's leaving and it was nice meeting you without saying anything. I take this opportunity to quickly turn and grab her, but the belligerent fat dude stops me and goes "Sorry mane she's goin home with me HAHAAHA!"
At the end end of the night, where people are all on the street, I see the hot girl with the fat girl again and they both get into their car and drive away leaving the black guys on the street.
My questions here are;
-Did i give the fat girl too much validation by engaging her, and calling her gorgeous? Enough to where she could take over and call the shots?
-For future reference: Should I of scrapped the fat girl completely in the beginning and just focused on the hot one? OR should I of cut it short with the fat one after messing with both of them and started gunning towards the hot one?
I know this is clearly an issue of not setting the proper frame from the onset of authority and leadership to where nobody can really compete with you but I've been struggling with this:
I never know when to just go for the hot one, or to engage the group, etc. etc.
Guys generally aren't my problem, befriending them is my go-to and I can out game and energize them anyday of the week.
This girl was beyond stunning. Think of it where every guy in the venue stares as she walks by and their jaws drop..but no one has the balls to approach. So when you do, you stand out like no other and she's so fixated on you.
I think it might of been a simple issue of being dominant to where the fat one has no choice but to let the hot one go with me.
Have also searched the web but you always get general advice like "befriend the group always" etc.
The videos in the membership definitely helped me understand that its almost always an issue with who the girls see as the leader and authority in the enviornment so that's where I"m thinking but figured I'd ask anyways.
Funny, this has always been a sticking point, my killer instinct. Having fun, being social...easy. When it comes to the shit that counts, I gloss over it cause I'm in Lala land about how awesome I am making all these friends and seaping validation.
You approached the fat one initially. That's on you bud. Don't blame anyone else
Thats what I'm saying :(
i never know with all these conflicting viewpoints of befriend the group vs never befriend the group cause they can fuck with you etc. cause it goes both ways.
I've had it to where the group begs me to take the girl and vice versa.
So i just approached and didn't think twice about it. And the girl was more attracted to me because I didnt give her much on the onset and she was asking me questions and shit etc.
So you're saying a better option would've been to approach the one you're interested in first and then turn to the other one if need be, throw some shit around with both of them, then hone back in on your girl and take it somewhere?
Cause it was a great display of social acquity by not jumping on the lone gazelle even tho its obvi she's the desireable one
So I remember a few years ago I was in this threeway makeout thing and I told me friend to take one of the girls. I thought this was high value, but Manwhore pointed out that I was actually being a faggot and not owning up to the situation. So I rationalized my actions as high value.
...Thats what happened here mang. Approaching the fatty on purpose is not authentic and she could probably feel it.
Thats actually a really good point
But.. was it? I mean if you want to toot your own horn, go for it.. but you didn't seem to do too much with it. But.. congrats mr. social aquity.
Wow ok ya that makes a lot of sense
Totally rationalizing me being a bitch by saying its social. I should be gunning for who I actually want.
I was facing both of them openly on the approach but made the initial "Hey" out to the big one and then held convo with both about same topics. But i was totally retreating to the fat one and although I can hide my sexual intent and you shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe even sense that our lifestyles are probably very similar. I simply want to fuck the hot one
It should've of been vice versa, approach the hot one, maybe even vibe with both, focus on the hottie and take it somewhere
OR.. take control of fatty and black clowns later. But it still needs to be done
Ah this is what you were talking about lol. Gotcha gotcha