How to handle the "I don't sleep with guys on the first date" comment.
I have no problem getting make outs on the first date, even to the point of obvious sexual willingness on the woman's part. But, when you're going hot and heavy in a doorway outside the bar, and a girl makes the aforementioned comment, I have no good reply in my arsenal to give her. The best I can muster is "neither do I" and keep going. But, there comes a point in the make out where you have to transition to a bedroom. Logistically, I'm smart enough to schedule 1st dates close to a woman's place. So, logistics aren't the issue. It's more about how to talk my way back to her place.
"Who said I wanted to sleep with you?"
are you having trouble getting them in isolation? Or actually closing once you're alone?
I'm sure I read this from a MW writeup, I've come to agree with it. Too much kissing triggers the asd/lmr. I say escalate physically and display dominance but hold back on the kissing/makeout. If you think about it, there's other reasons to do this. Holding back shows some qualification and restraint on your part, high halue traits which she may want to chase. Also if you give her enough too soon, she might just feel plenty validated/satisfied and not need to have sex anymore.
Any time a girl mentions not having sex with me I take it as a good sign lol, it means she's thinking about having sex with me. My usual answer; "who said anything about sex? Slow the fuck down!"
I'm sure I read this from a MW writeup, I've come to agree with it. Too much kissing triggers the asd/lmr. I say escalate physically and display dominance but hold back on the kissing/makeout. If you think about it, there's other reasons to do this. Holding back shows some qualification and restraint on your part, high halue traits which she may want to chase. Also if you give her enough too soon, she might just feel plenty validated/satisfied and not need to have sex anymore.Any time a girl mentions not having sex with me I take it as a good sign lol, it means she's thinking about having sex with me. My usual answer; "who said anything about sex? Slow the fuck down!"
GOOD POINT BROTHER!
Kissing is sometimes asking for a lot of compliance, you need to hold a lot of authority. As well, like Ruby said, if you're looking like you're getting dessert from kissing a girl, you're going to lose value!
Almost everytime a girl said she's not going to sleep with me, we ended up sleeping together that night. It's actually a very powerful IOI in my books.
Those responses are brilliant! "who said anything about sex, slow the fuck down." Love it!
Can also say, "well good, because I'm not that easy, nothing was gonna happen anyway"
or you can create false barriers that she needs to overcome to have sex with you.
"Cool. I told my mom I was gonna be good anyway"
or
"woah slow down about this sex talk. I'm a virging boy, I hope you weren't planning on coming over to take advantage of me"
But I think it really depends on the vibe the chick is putting out.
A lot of times they fully want to fuck you, they just say that to take any responsibility off them and so you don't view them as sluts. Im which case, you can just parry it or deflate it with a simple, "cool." Then take a couple steps back and be a little more calibrated with your escalation.
Then you can just keep it innoccent. Assure her nothing is going to happen and bring her to your room or sex location haha. As long as she is under the impression that she isn't verbally committing to sex then she will be okay. Then when you get her turned on or aroused she's be down to fuck. But she won't feel guilty about it because she said she wasn't going to have sex and it just happened.
You need to explain the context here a bit better but yes it seems you're taking things too far, too hot and heavy in a non-isolated location. So it's got NOWHERE to go, so it fizzles out. Leave the heavy seduction for your place or hers. Make it easy for it to happen. You're demonstrating your lack of experience in handling situations like this it's a clear sign to a girl. And yes as mentioned above, a girl saying that is a GOOD thing, except for when you've short-circuited her in a public place lol. Then she KNOWS not to get alone with you because you'll probably rape her and put her in your freezer. Show some restraint. Give her a preview but hold back. It's good for both of you.
I was thinking pretty hard about this. A lot of times I don't understand what I'm doing and figure it out later. Almost every time I've gotten laid, I preemptively said what she would say... IE "No, I can't." or "We're not having sex in the jacuzzi." ETC.
Basically you're expecting her to stop you so you say it proactively, not reactively.
Yah really good advice across the board here.
Kissing girls in a non-sex location is seriously the fuckin worst. Can't believe I used to do this. Tops do a neck kiss and some "deep eye gazing" but any girl with even half a brain understands what a neck kiss implies "Gurl you smell so good"..
+1 for false barriers.
My favorite one is "I'm on my period". A new one I just came up with last week is "I can't have sex with you tonight - I don't have a condom" while you're escalating.
Yah really good advice across the board here.Kissing girls in a non-sex location is seriously the fuckin worst. Can't believe I used to do this. Tops do a neck kiss and some "deep eye gazing" but any girl with even half a brain understands what a neck kiss implies "Gurl you smell so good"..
+1 for false barriers.
My favorite one is "I'm on my period". A new one I just came up with last week is "I can't have sex with you tonight - I don't have a condom" while you're escalating.
Oh fuck I forgot about the period one. That popped out of my mouth a few years ago it was HILARIOUS. "I can't.. I'm on my period." Lulz
Fuck. Here I was thinking I was a genius for coming up with that. Shit i might have swagger jacked that from you ;).
I don't feel bad - I paid for it!!
Btw I'm kinda curious to how your Skype program has evolved now. One topic - I've just been forced to fuckin think about ALL THE TIME now is the buyer/seller dynamic and stuff like validation. Wonder if you cover that sort of stuff now. For me personally, I'm starting to realize it's an area I like totally managed to gloss over without truly understanding.
I'd go over your drills/hw and see what you come up with. It will mean different things to you now you'll be surprised. You should also look at your old training review and any success reports you posted.
The conclusion on this one is I fucked her on the third date. By setting the frame that on our third date she would make it "worth my while" she was agreeing to sex. Best blowjob I've had to date, btw. Some women really are better than others in this department.