How to push
It has become clear to me that I don't know how to push. Especially with the girls I really like. It seems I'm way better at pushing and closing with the girls I'm less attracted to.
This is a pretty hot girl though a little older, mid-late 30's. Dancer, musician, she also does some contract work for me a couple of times a month or so. This one has plenty of self esteem lol, so no worries there. She's also a bartender at a lounge.
My physical escalation is getting very good, this is another example of a girl that loves being manhandled by me. When I see her she always goes for the hug and often goes for a quick kiss on the lips. She likes putting her hands on me, she'll poke and tickle me prompting me to grab her, dominate her, pick her up etc. she loves it. Again, I have probably been all pull and no push. Conversations have gotten quite personal and even sexual. She seems intrigued by my sex life. She is also friends with the girl I broke up with a couple of weeks ago (but have still been fucking occasionally). I have not yet told her that we were broken up. My suspicion that she's been reluctant because of my (girl) was confirmed the other night when I dropped by the bar she works at to say hi and see about maybe hanging out after. She was touchy as usual and happy to see me, we talked about hanging out and partying after she was done work. She said something like " ..if it wasn't for (your girl) I'd love to take you for a ride". I should probably mention to her that my girl and I are 'off' at the moment, she knows full well that I see other girls and that its fine and I actually think it would be a step backward if I do. I think she freak out and probably shift her concern to "are we ok" which we are.
There are several lines of texts before these that are work stuff which I will leave out...
fri 6:30pm
me: Hey bbz. I'm definitely going to get into something tonite, not sure what. You should roll with me
A couple of hours later I went to a party which was out of service range. I get back in range at around 3am and find that she had texted me this..
her: Hey hottie! Few of us goin to the club. Where you at?
Saturday I get up at noon ish and send
me: Hey bird. How was last night? The valley party was exactly like every valley party since the beginning. Plus a flaming cobra
I sent her a pic of a flaming wooden sculpture of a cobra ala burning man
her: Too bad you did come to club...we had sooo much fun. Danced for hours. Wicked djs
me: I'm at the pub for 8ish for a birthday party. It'll be a lot of my original BC crew. Come along and meet some peops
her: Would love to but at lounge all night... Will come out after tho but that's late...you guys should bar hop over there too
I popped by breifly, as mentioned above
pre Super Bowl
me: Hey lady. You partying today?
her: lounge
obviously chasing and getting too many 'no's.
You need to get her out some time and start by playfully pushing at first. Then, go in a little harder and start stripping validation so she will chase. Watch Julien's preview vid for PIMP for examples. I posted it up on this forum.
As far as getting her out, send a funny reengagement text in a few days. No more
"Hey what's up?"
"What are you doing tonight?"
"Are you working?"
These types of texts contribute little to nothing to your end goal and re-enforce in her mind that you're just a customer/friend.
You need to get her out some time and start by playfully pushing at first. Then, go in a little harder and start stripping validation so she will chase. Watch Julien's preview vid for PIMP for examples. I posted it up on this forum.As far as getting her out, send a funny reengagement text in a few days. No more
"Hey what's up?"
"What are you doing tonight?"
"Are you working?"
These types of texts contribute little to nothing to your end goal and re-enforce in her mind that you're just a customer/friend.
You're right G, I need to banish that lame shit from my text game permanently.
almost wish there was an app that detected those questions and asked "are you sure you want to send that faggoty text, pussy?" Lol
Lol that's an awesome idea.
her: Sorry about Kelly! I get sooo many complaints about her its crazy. I have the next 3 days off in case you need me!
I was actually thinking about making some amazing food ______. Can you bring wine? Leave Kelly at the lounge lol
The reason I want you to send the above text or something similar is she's subtely hinting she wants to hang out. If you send "What if I just want you" she's gonna be like, "Well ask me to hang out you moron"
I had just finished sending
me: Bingo nite at the pub and I'm feeling lucky. Bring your bro if you like
I told her bring her bro cause I know she wants to get him out more. Plus he's awesome and he really likes me so it could only help.
I followed up with yours
me: Leave Kelly at the lounge lol
love it
her: can't go out...just paid some bills and am broke again.:(
me: its bingo I'll lend you the 4 bucks derp
her: thanks but that isn't enough to go out and feel comfy
me: I'm not drinking tonight, its all I'm gonna need. Didn't know you were such a princess
It's funny, I feel uncomfortable about that last text lol I'm nick-fitting a bit
her: I'm a server... I don't usually go out to an estab. and not buy anything or tip. It's the opp. of a princess
Yeah that wasn't "push" it was more reactive/butthurt style. It's a slight shift and in your case you just have to learn to recognize it so you stop making this mistake.
.. feel comfy"
"You little love biscuit, you don't need dollars to play! Just the worship and gratitude of your adoring fans. Oh wait I was talking about myself"
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
me: its the pub on bingo nite. Worst case; have a soda tip a buck. I'm planning on winning anyway, when I do I've got us covered;)
then I got M's suggestion and tacked it on
me: Besides little love muffin, you don't need money to play! Just the worship and gratitude of your adoring fans. Oh wait I was talking about myself
her: Haha we'll see
She never showed
Slippy, slippy little bunny. I know she wants it but keeps wriggling away. She's fully resisting it because she thinks it'll cause problems with my girl (who she's friends with and she doesn't know the relationship is off at the moment anyway)
text exchanges like this have been too common, almost hanging out but never actually hanging out.
Part of me is tempted to just throw a wrench in the works and
did I hear you say you want to fuck me?
as a challenge (she basically did).
This girl and I have a pretty chill rapport. We're comfortable talking about sex, I'm casual and comfortable with it. She knows there's other girls. I know she needs to get laid. I almost want to go cards up. Part of me wants to just move on but I run into this objection ALOT and I have found that ignoring and plowing past it has worked well but I'd like another tool in the bag for when it doesn't.
Or maybe just a playful
what are you doing? Come get in my bed
lol
Holmes you went pushing too hard trying to get this girl to meet up. Bam bam bam. You can't do that. Give this girl a break reengage a few days from now, maybe even a week. With something NOT related to meeting up. You want to challenge a girl emotionally, not try to logically convince her, derp.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I was just thinking the exact same thing lol. It's so funny to me how my brain is oscillating between a weird chodey scarcity mindset and then snapping back to being present, clear, abundant. It feels like a really good step to be identifying that this is going on. It's a little disorienting though. A few times recently I've caught myself sending or almost sending really bad texts, snapping out of it and being like W.T.F..?
I think what's happening is on the one hand; being single is a bit weird and unusual right now, I may be freaking out a bit internally making so many drastic changes at once to my lifestyle ie. quit all stimulants etc. which leads me to sometimes get overwhelmed and go unconscious. OTOH, I'm meditating, getting laid, installing some fucking BOSS habits and feeling great generally, which gives me at times the ability to get very present and feel very powerful. I can't ever remember a time when I've been capable of such drastically different mindsets at basically the same time.
The good news is I feel myself moving in a positive direction and the present, positive personality seems to be becoming more prominent.
Yep you nailed it that's exactly what's happening. Probably a lot more to do with coming off those stimulants/substances than you realize. That general feeling of physiological imbalance/unfamiliarity is creating a sense of "I need something" and it's attaching itself to this vaginal little whipper snapper.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
physiological imbalance/unfamiliarity is creating a sense of "I need something"
amazing insight.
I had a pretty vivid dream last night. I had a big and powerful pet eagle, we had become exfremely proficient hunters together. One day I acquired two young cats, a lion and a black tiger. We were fast friends. As I raised them and taught them to hunt their personalities came out. The lion was strong and dependable no matter what. The black tiger became increasingly powerful, it was fiercely loyal as long as I was unafraid. It continued to grow and become more and more powerful. I became concerned that if one day I showed any fear that it would kill me.
This girl was doing some work for me at my shop a week ago. I was flirting with her a bit more than usual, I try to keep some propriety at the office. We were the only ones there. I wasn't really escalating on her per se, more like she was putting her hands on me as I was unreactive yet putting out a strong sexual vibe. She gets shy, nervous, she buries her head in my shoulder as I'm gazing at her. She can't take it anymore and starts making out with me ferociously and grinding on me, i manhandle her a bit and she loves it. We made out for a minute or so, she laid out all her previous concerns that i had had a girlfriend. she pretty much said she was ready to be over it and excited to hang out. shes a dance instructor and said she wants to come over and dance for me etc. I fucked this up by going along with it for too long and not fucking her. I should have fucked her right there or cut it off sooner. We texted a bit over the weekend, almost made plans and then she went radio silent on me. Fuck. She's in to do some work tomorrow. I think I'll just fuck her right there at the office lol.
Yep. Hey do you want to be in on a webinar with the other guys on the forum. Nothing too crazy. Maybe we can flesh out threesomes
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Love it
Kk
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I'm really interested in Jack's take on doing threesomes! Aside from MW Jack's prolly the dude who's got the most experience with it.
I came SUPER close to a threesome before I joined the community, and I might've had it if I had been wiser. I was fucking one of the girls' roommate at the time and that was her objection. Bawlz I'm sad about that.
Get out and go for it infantballs, write up some reports and we'll shoot some feedback your way. First step I'd say is getting comfortable with the idea that its normal and out of the mindset that you have to pick one target. Rather just flirt openly right in front of whatever girl you might like. It seemed counterintuitive to me at first, just remember its no big deal. When she challenges you on it just ask her if she thinks the other girl is cute etc.
Infantballs!! That's a really good one.
Sick post too. Shit I bet multiple guys will get threesomes now just based on that
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
This girl was doing some work for me at my shop a week ago. I was flirting with her a bit more than usual, I try to keep some propriety at the office. We were the only ones there. I wasn't really escalating on her per se, more like she was putting her hands on me as I was unreactive yet putting out a strong sexual vibe. She gets shy, nervous, she buries her head in my shoulder as I'm gazing at her. She can't take it anymore and starts making out with me ferociously and grinding on me, i manhandle her a bit and she loves it. We made out for a minute or so, she laid out all her previous concerns that i had had a girlfriend. she pretty much said she was ready to be over it and excited to hang out. shes a dance instructor and said she wants to come over and dance for me etc. I fucked this up by going along with it for too long and not fucking her. I should have fucked her right there or cut it off sooner. We texted a bit over the weekend, almost made plans and then she went radio silent on me. Fuck. She's in to do some work tomorrow. I think I'll just fuck her right there at the office lol.
ok this girl was in to do some work today. There were half a dozen staff or so around but when she and I had the odd moment alone, she was in my arms, kissing and excited like. I get the sense she really likes me but because of her imaginary concerns about one of my girlfriends, who is her friend, she has resisted this far to come over and 'hang out'. She has met and was around my other girlfriend all day, she knows exactly what's up. (btw. She told me several times today how much she likes my new gf, I think she likes her-likes her ;)
i think I'm looking to craft a text. I don't want to invest a lot here, I could care less. Heres today's post-work, work-related text.
her: thanks again! Looks like you have it covered tomorrow but if you want me out I'll be there :) I just have a sugar daddy date at 2 for a couple hours tomorrow. I would've stayed later today but I got so hungry!
the "sugar daddy date" she's referring to is just some old man who basically pays her to hang out and might take her to Spain or some shit.
This girl was doing some work for me at my shop a week ago. I was flirting with her a bit more than usual, I try to keep some propriety at the office. We were the only ones there. I wasn't really escalating on her per se, more like she was putting her hands on me as I was unreactive yet putting out a strong sexual vibe. She gets shy, nervous, she buries her head in my shoulder as I'm gazing at her. She can't take it anymore and starts making out with me ferociously and grinding on me, i manhandle her a bit and she loves it. We made out for a minute or so, she laid out all her previous concerns that i had had a girlfriend. she pretty much said she was ready to be over it and excited to hang out. shes a dance instructor and said she wants to come over and dance for me etc. I fucked this up by going along with it for too long and not fucking her. I should have fucked her right there or cut it off sooner. We texted a bit over the weekend, almost made plans and then she went radio silent on me. Fuck. She's in to do some work tomorrow. I think I'll just fuck her right there at the office lol.
ok this girl was in to do some work today. There were half a dozen staff or so around but when she and I had the odd moment alone, she was in my arms, kissing and excited like. I get the sense she really likes me but because of her imaginary concerns about one of my girlfriends, who is her friend, she has resisted this far to come over and 'hang out'. She has met and was around my other girlfriend all day, she knows exactly what's up. (btw. She told me several times today how much she likes my new gf, I think she likes her-likes her ;)
i think I'm looking to craft a text. I don't want to invest a lot here, I could care less. Heres today's post-work, work-related text.
her: thanks again! Looks like you have it covered tomorrow but if you want me out I'll be there :) I just have a sugar daddy date at 2 for a couple hours tomorrow. I would've stayed later today but I got so hungry!
the "sugar daddy date" she's referring to is just some old man who basically pays her to hang out and might take her to Spain or some shit.