how would you handle this situation? (work related)
so i am in the process of changing career, and i started interviewing for a new job. i currently work as a journalist, and i want to move into project management. i did some project management in my free time but mostly it wasn't professional experience. i went through two rounds of job interview at one company that seems really good - they are very pro-employees oriented, have a kickass hub area, and are growing like motherfuckers. and today i just got an email that they decided i don't have enough experience.
but when i was there during the second round i was asking how could i get myself in the loop faster, what could i do for that. and they said that i could start coming there once a week before i officially start. so i am thinking of sending them email along the lines of that there is perhaps an alternative where i'd be coming the company for a bit without any agreement, and if i prove myself within agreed time frame, we might talk about the employment once more. now there's two things about this situation - 1) they could have been polite, and there's no way i could be employed there. but i did my research, and truly found myself in sync with their values which i think i sold well. i also made sure to let them know, i am ambitious and spend a lot of my free time learning stuff. so in the first round the guys i would be taking work after said right away that i should come to the second round. in the second round i talked to chief of project managers there, and he might have seen me as too inexperienced. 2) from what i gathered during those interviews, it's a position they are just creating and they prefer finding the right match over filling it asap. they said that they would be willing to wait two months before i become available. so if they truly see potential in me, extra time might or might not be an issue. it might depend on whether they already have more suitable candidate in sights. but this wasn't a traditional job interview with a hall filled with candidates. i was there alone both times so i think they are very picky with who they invite.
so what i am asking is how would you play this. how would you word an email so it's interesting offer for them, and it's not just you trying to leech their time. for me it's win either way - even if i don't get the job, i'll get some additional experience. for them it might be interesting because i think i truly am good match, and i always managed to learn anything i wanted to, and usually excelled at that. so i see myself as a bit of initial investment that will soon pay off by having a great new employee.
summary - i want to ask whether there is an alternate option where i'd be coming to the company once a week for a few hours (something they suggested as transition period before they rejected me), and i wonder how to word the email to improve my chances.
Why would you ever want to move from journalism to project management? Fucking awful, loll
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
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there are three main reasons for that. 1) i've achieved almost everything i could in my field (videogames), 2) there's not much to learn anymore, it just became a routine, 3) it's hard to make more money than i already do. i am fairly well paid and i wouldn't be that much better of even as an editor in chief.
+if i choose a new company well, it can be good for observing processes in case that i decide to build my own business in the future.
Dude, project management is grueling, thankless, shit work. Your next step is to launch your own website.. duh. Fucking lame you'd try to find another way back into the rat maze starting at the beginning. DURR. Grow and EXPAND, dude. Don't just start over to false recreate that feeling of accomplishing something.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
it's probably not that black & white but it's still a feedback to be taken into account. i did some project management in the past (launched my own small record label, lead free-time development of a computer game, and organised a stage for a major electronic festival in europe) so i know what that entails and i know that i find that fun. but it's true that doing this in corporate environment might be "thankless work", and your income is very artificially limited (unless you work in sales) when you work for someone else. working hard usually doesn't pay off very well there.
i also worked on a business project with another guy for about nine months last year, and the beginning of this one but i didn't get things in agreement in time, and ended up being screwed over. i thought it might happen but i knew the guy for 13 years so i was expecting problems only after we sign founder agreements and create a company, which never happened for me.
so when it comes to creating my own thing - i am certainly not opposed to that idea but being pretty active one i also know that it's extremely hard work, and i feel that i need to focus on the right thing. and i am not sure what would that be. working in games development (which would be building on what i already know a lot about) is terrible because it's underpaid (exacty the same work in every other field gets you paid significantly more), and there are insane overtimes when the games are nearing completion. sometimes even as long as two years when people work 12-15 hours without being compensated appropriately, and burn out massively.
the only thing i can think of right now (and i did a lot of intense introspection in the last few months) would be some kind of games consultancy. i think that my unique angle is background in e-sports as i used to be semi-professional in my teens (top5 european team but smaller game so we weren't getting paid) and was between quite, and extremely good in a few others. so i truly understand what makes good competitive games tick, and i can spot a lot of mistakes in stuff that is coming out these days. i don't expect you to sort out my life for me, but if you have any ideas i would be more than happy to hear them.
Project management is WAAAAY underpaid. You think you did overtime in journalism?? Watch out holmes, it's going to get redefined for ya ;).
Your experiences in entrepreneurship sound like abortions. E.g. they didn't even poke their heads out.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
now thats some useful response (: