I feel so incongruent when doing daygame
I have been doing daygame for a while now but when I started I was happy and felt congruent, but now I feel very incongruent with my style.
I feel that I am dry and fake, like I am hiding behind a mask. I also feel very needy and strange.
Any advice on this? I have been following RSD stuff for some time now.
I have also been thinking about doing Manwhors Skype Coaching.
Would really Appreciate the help guys!
What are the elements of your daygame approach?
Basically, I have been doing it for about one year now, just reading and applying with no one really to adjust my mistakes.
The element of my approach include this.
I approach and give the girl a specific complaint based around her. For example “I like how short you are and I think you look cute.”
I tell her my name and ask her for her name and we shake hands and sometimes I might hold her hand for a second. She answers and tells me her name and most of them do. I then ask her about what "her story is" and why she is in the city, and then we have a conversation about why she is in the city. I tell her you are very lucky you meet a tall handsome man today. I am 6,4 feet. I then get a number and we talk. Some number go places others do not. Most of my convos, are about what she is doing in the city. I do some teasing and a disqualifier but, I just use what I have found in a book or online. For example, if she is young, like 17, I tell her I am too old for you, for a disqualifier. Some of them qualify themselves others, don't.
Prior to this, I was doing the London daygame model. Which goes like this
I open >> Make assumptions >> She Invest >> VIBE >> CLOSE.
I then stopped doing that due to the fact I got very little results with it and felt very robotic.
Sometimes I feel very wired as if I am not good enough or I might be doing something retarded, in the correct definition. I never used to feel this way. I feel that very incongruent with myself and that I might be in the way of the girl.
I sometimes run out of things to say and then I make up something that is not aligned with me, some shit! I get weird reactions etc, but then I blame it on the culture. I am not from the states.
Yeah I've had to break several guys of the "London daygame model". Didn't even know it was a thing till I had a good 4 or 5 dudes start mentioning it during training. Lol
Sounds to me like you're simply a poor conversationalist. You can't hobble together a conversation from a few one-liner "disqualifiers" you found online. Do you share the same native tongue with the women you speak to?
I am from a the Caribbean, we speak english but there is a local dialect that people speak, that is based of English. I am also middle eastern but I was born in this country and lived my whole life here. I speak English better than my Arabic.
You are right man, after thinking about it, I cannot keep a proper conversation. I feel that I'm retarded at times.
Let me tell you a little about the social dynamics of my country:
Some of the stuff RSD teaches are not applicable here, for example shit RSD guys say to girls and the social dynamics are totally different in my country and are not like the rest of the world or the USA.
An example of social dynamics in my country: I was talking to this girl, and I told her let us crash caribbean cinemas this Friday (something along those lines), she then never replied. I already took her out on a date, prior.
The point here is that, I showed it to my friends and they said I sound like a white guy. LOL.. they told me no one uses word like this in my country, only while people E.g "crash" etc... I have been studying pick up for a while now and my friends tell me how RSD teachings are just plane strange and that they wouldn't work in my country and that I should not apply them here.
I feel very discouraged man!
The problem is that I do not speak the local dialect of the local people.
Born and raised there but don't speak the language?
I don’t speak the dialect which is very similar to english. The official language is English (UK) and they teach proper English in schools and not dailect.
The reason for this is because, you are not forced to learn it, “yes” all locals speak dialect, but they also all speak English.
Also the other reason I did not learn dialect or the culture of the people of my country, was because they do not like to integrate with us, meaning that most of them prefer there people and not us. We are basically just a minority. Satistically speaking, we are less than one (1) percent. As I result I never bothered to learn it. I actually speak more Spanish than my local dialect.
This is also a very common problem, if you want to call it that. Most people but not all, that are a minority, do not speak the daliect.
Note: I understand it, but I do not speak it.
The country has a population of 81,000+ people.
None of this matters. These are all just rationalizations. Clearly you don't have a lot of speaking/verbal/conversational skills.
Yes, I stutter allot and have speaking problems, I also stutter when speaking even to my own friends.
I plan to do voice training with someone, to help me with my articulation and speech problem.
I sometimes literally feel like a retard, in the correct definition. :(
I'd say 40% of my training program is straight speech therapy. That being said you may be able to find someone to help you with your speech problem for cheaper. It won't be seduction training, but it'll be effective.
Take a look at Roger Love's "Vocal Power" I'd say that's step 1. That being said I've trained lots of guys who already went through it who somehow missed the memo on actually developing their voice. Most guys need a coach to actually make them do it correctly, but there's a lot of powerful stuff in that program. I goinked at least a couple things from it for my own vocal development program. Lol
At the moment, I am saving up money for my online business. I want to be financially FREE so I can travel and become my own boss.
I plan to do voice training with a speech therapist and your coaching for seduction, but only after I establish myself, financially, and my online business.
All the best man and thanks for being honest with me!
I will look at that Roger Love's "Vocal Power"