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somehow I stumbled upon a list of girls living in my city and all of them are in their early 20s.

so, since the numbers are more than I can handle I decided to approach it this way :

I installed an app called Whatsapp. now if you have a girl's # as a contact in your phone and that girl has whatsapp installed on her phone you gonna be able to see her picture, when was the last them she was online and message her for free.

there are girls that I have no idea who they are and they don't have whatsapp either so I skip them. but those who I personally know but don't have whataspp are gonna be texted/called later.

so for now , I have 40 bitches in my whatsapp and they can't see me ...

I decided to take a minimalistic "I'm already enough and she's already mine" approach. Put less effort in game since I have a tendency to overgame and push it too far.

so my opener is "howdy" and they usually respond with "u?" which I respond with a statement of intent "I want to befriend you". and then keep vibing & building rapport in playful/non-qualifying way. enough stupid topics to comfort her ... meanwhile plant the seed for meetup and go for it asap.

LET ME KNOW IF IT'S AN OPTIMAL APPROACH ... I WANT TO INCREASE MY CLOSING RATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

now there are a few issues : 

-some of these chicks don't even respond. I left one alone and she messaged me 8hrs later "u?". but with another one ( which was hot ) I sent a pic of a cute cat but still she didn't respond.

should I use some statement of empathy for these bitches ? like "I know I'm just a stranger but I'm only interested in having fun :D" or should I leave them alone ?

-some of these chicks are in the same social circle. now what I'm afraid of is that I msg girls who are in the same circle and they bring it up when they are talking to each other ... I would crash and burn :D lose both of them !  so my approach is to msg girls who are in the same circle one-by-one. not all at once. thoughts ?

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"I want to befriend you" is

"I want to befriend you" is terrible

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Manwhore wrote: "I want to

Manwhore wrote:
"I want to befriend you" is terrible

I have had successes with this line on facebook.

that's how I convey that it's man-to-woman via text. and it sparks emotions too. or at least it makes them intrigued.

some girls even mentioned ( in fb ) that's high confidence. plus it comes from the frame of buyer.

what do you suggest ? 

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UPDATE : the bitch I sent

UPDATE :

the bitch I sent 'howdy' , got no response and then sent a pic of a kitty blocked me. I think I shoulda used a statement of empathy that I know it's weird to her , ... ?

one of the bitches I said 'I want to befriend you' blocked me too. looks like it's creepier than I thought , it's not the right timing.

any advice on how to use instead ? self amusement ? drama ? introduce myself ?

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"I want to befriend



"I want to befriend you"

Might as well say, "Do not ever meet me in person. On the off chance you do, bring pepper spray and a friend."

WTF Isetea

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G-Money wrote: "I want to

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"I want to befriend you"

Might as well say, "Do not ever meet me in person. On the off chance you do, bring pepper spray and a friend."

WTF Isetea

I kinda get it that this is somehow creepy but,

(1) this line I actually learned from an alpha friend of mine, this guy's been with every single hot chick in our social circle but I guess I'm using the wrong timing here.

(2) I just want our conversation to be man-to-woman. Since it's a random girl and doesn't know me.  I want to make clear why I'm messaging her and what my intentions are. wrong mindset ?

(3) Finally what do you suggest I use instead ? humor ? 

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You are misunderstanding what



You are misunderstanding what a man to woman interaction encapsulates. You're still friend to friend because you're LITERALLY SAYING YOU WANT TO BEFRIEND HER.

Example of man to woman: I like you. What are we doing for our honeymoon...err I mean, first date.

Don't get caught up in tactics and all this nonsense. Just flirt with her playfully and the interaction will shape itself.

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Isetea what are your

Isetea what are your circumstances? You seem to be a foreign guy living in a western country??

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G-Money wrote: You are

G-Money wrote:


You are misunderstanding what a man to woman interaction encapsulates. You're still friend to friend because you're LITERALLY SAYING YOU WANT TO BEFRIEND HER.

Example of man to woman: I like you. What are we doing for our honeymoon...err I mean, first date.

Don't get caught up in tactics and all this nonsense. Just flirt with her playfully and the interaction will shape itself.

makes total sense. thanks.

can I also comment on her pic ? like telling her 'u look nice'  

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Manwhore wrote: Isetea what

Manwhore wrote:
Isetea what are your circumstances? You seem to be a foreign guy living in a western country??

foreign guy in a foreign country , middle east 

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So what do you think makes

So what do you think makes your buddy successful? Because it isn't that line lol

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G-Money wrote: So what do you

G-Money wrote:
So what do you think makes your buddy successful? Because it isn't that line lol

UPDATE: 3rd girl, " I don't care what your intentions are , please don't bother me"

ok I'm going to open next girl with something like "you look cute, stranger"  ... what do you think :) ?

and about my buddy he's super chill , totally unreactive , lives completely in his own reality ...

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So why not ask him for some

So why not ask him for some advice? 

What are the chances you can get a girl out and about in this country, realistically?

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G-Money wrote:So why not ask

G-Money wrote:
So why not ask him for some advice? 

What are the chances you can get a girl out and about in this country, realistically?

I've tried that. The guy is not analytical. He's outside his head so he can't teach it. 

There's no clubs here but the young generation have a westernized lifestyle.

One of the ways to meet girls is people drive around [mostly expensive cars to show off] in some particular streets and girls are

either standing there or driving themselves too. They pick them up or exchange number or ...

( These are not HOOKERS, they are girls just wanting to have fun ) 

You can meet girls in universities or underground parties or in social events.

You just can't be seen flirting with them in public. I mean you got to be careful :

http://cdn.asriran.com/files/fa/news/1392/6/17/306660_112.jpg

so basically logistics are harder, way too harder. because guys live with their parents untill the age 26-28, it's not unusual ... and parents have the old way of thinking ... "sex before marriage is bad". so logistics are a lot harder unless you're rich or you have a car or ...

but , it makes the girls hornier because they can't get it under normal circumstances.  

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This is how teenagers dress

This is how teenagers dress in summer ... so it's not that bad but still law enforcemnets make moves every now and then.

http://fashion360.pk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Poosh-New-Spring-Summer-...

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What are you doing over there

What are you doing over there IseTea? 

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Manwhore wrote:What are you

Manwhore wrote:
What are you doing over there IseTea? 

What do you mean ? This is where I was born.

and I don't have money to get outta this country.

maybe when I graduate from university I can find a way.

UPDATE : another chick :

+ hey stranger :p

- Hi y?

- u*?

+ I'm not that famous for you to recognize me

+ but my name is IseTea

+ and u look cute btw

seen , no reply , at least she didn't block me or ask me to fuck off :))

should I reinitiate with this one or move to the next one ?

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What do you think dude.

What do you think dude.

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Manwhore wrote: What do you

Manwhore wrote:
What do you think dude.

don't waste time and move to the next one ? :D 

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Manwhore wrote: What do you

Manwhore wrote:
What do you think dude.

okay , I seem to have a problem understanding this. please clarify this for me.

I can see that she's not interested and is not investing in the interaction at all, but she doesn't know me yet. she doesn't know my personality. am I not supposed to give her a bigger sample so she can decide ? or does the bigger sample thing works only in face-to-face cold approach ?

and what about girls that already know me well enough , ... they know me well enough and for whatever reason - be it that they don't like me or they are just upset and want to be alone - they don't reply my messages ... well don't we believe that girls live in the emotion of the moment ? so it doesn't matter that she hasn't replied yet, I can flip it if I do it well.

I understand that I need to value my time with each girl but I want to maximize my return on each # for the sake of it.

Please clarify this for me ... am I in the wrong mindset or text gaming is different 

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IseTea you're missing a basic

IseTea you're missing a basic understanding of conversational flow and male/female dynamics. This isn't something where I help you write your texts and boom you're off to the races. You're starting at about a jr. high level here. You need to begin your education 

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Manwhore wrote: IseTea you're

Manwhore wrote:
IseTea you're missing a basic understanding of conversational flow and male/female dynamics. This isn't something where I help you write your texts and boom you're off to the races. You're starting at about a jr. high level here. You need to begin your education 

how do I start ?

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If your English is good

If your English is good enough then obviously my training program. Do you read a lot? 

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Manwhore wrote: If your

Manwhore wrote:
If your English is good enough then obviously my training program. Do you read a lot? 

I don't want to come off as a value leech but it's too expensive for me. Exchange rates have tripled over the last year and I'm dead broke.

Yes, I read a lot , any books you recommend ?

look , about conversational flow ... I intentionally use no questions at the beginning and only use statements so that I don't come off as needy. is that why you think I don't get conversational flow ? because I'm doing it inentionally ( perhaps for the wrong reason ... ) 

  

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Because you're using inane

Because you're using inane openers on Facebook, and going with even more retarded responses.. and don't even understand the reactions you're getting. Look at your overall results. They are a barometer of your social skills. Start reading outloud. At least five minutes a day 

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Manwhore wrote: Because

Manwhore wrote:
Because you're using inane openers on Facebook, and going with even more retarded responses.. and don't even understand the reactions you're getting. Look at your overall results. They are a barometer of your social skills. Start reading outloud. At least five minutes a day 

those are not my openers on fb , 

I start with simple talk ,  and then throw that line when we're having a fun conv.

for whatsapp , I dunno how to do it becus it's different. it's a lot more private and I want them to know why I'm texting them , the sooner the better.

can you show me how should I response ?

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What do you do in your

What do you do in your regular life IseTea

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