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Was a very big decision. I was being promoted, and had a GREAT title, was making pretty good money... but it was the wrong industry. I had to get out. The longer I stayed at this company, the harder it was going to be for me to get a job in an industry I want to be in long-term. 

It's hard, for me, to get away from the external trappings of "title" and "salary" and do what's right in terms of the long-term picture - but then again, I tend to always make the "tough choice".. even if it just takes me a lil bit to get there

haha one way of describing it, would be like.... Imagine you're a POOAH and you're really really good at fucking chicks - but it's all gimmicks//manipulation//mind tricks and you realize that long-term that's not who you want to be, that in order to be successful long-term you HAVE to shift into doing thins the real way. So you basically have to start all over from scratch, and a part of you wants to just keep doing thigns the old way cause "hey, at least you were getting laid, right?!"

But there's nothing to teach you, to SHOW you, the absolute fucking ABSURDITY of attachment, like ripping all of your identity-attachments away from yourself. Takes a lot of centerdness to be able to handle this kind of openness. No job, no income, gotta pay rent, gotta eat - and it's entirely MY CHOICE. I did this. And, oddly enough - It's the RIGHT choice. It takes a lot of centerdness to handle ripping away everythign you've created your identity around. 

But seriosuly, this experience has shown me the following:

Everything is always changing , and yet I've spent so much energy attaching and actively building on those attachments, unfortuntely, not-so-blissfully unaware that it's futile because it's all changing. 

Goes back to what Meow was mentioning in his post the other day - We all HAVE to be itnernally centered.... our identity can't be wrapped around anything external, because if it is then it's inherently wrapped around something that's changing and we're going to be clinging. 

The more I let go, the more calm and centered I am. 

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Here's a question: If you

Here's a question: If you had nothing. If your friends were gone, your job were gone, you had very little money, family had all passed away - all of it gone. What do you have left? Would you be able to function?

The practice of non-attachment

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Great post.

Great post.

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I've had and am still going

I've had and am still going through pretty turbulent career changes at 30 and I think it's going to get worse for future generations. Anyway if I find myself finding my identity through my career title or a certain number in the bank I just repeat to myself that the world is my playground and in reality none of it matters anyway lol.

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Exactly - and just because we

Exactly - and just because we practice non-attachment doesn't mean we "stop tryin". 

I think that's where a lot of people misinterpret this shit. It's about "Non-attachment to outcome" "Non identity-attachment" but I will always continue to do what is best for myself. Do my best to crush the job I have, and to get the best job for me in the long-term. 

Just all the while, being mindful of my identity. It's like mindfulness is the leash, and our ego attachments are the dog. We take the dog for a walk, as we go through our daily lives//careers etc. and sometimes the dog is just walking alongside us, behaving itself, but then sometimes the dog tries to run off, and gets a ltitle further off, so we have to yank back on the leash and get the dog beside us again. 

We just must constantly yank on that leash and reign that dog back in, so that we're always aware of our attachments//identity stories

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Congrats Potted seems like

Congrats Potted seems like you got your head on straight, I think 99% of people would never have the balls to do what you did.

I actually think about career stuff like this a lot since i'm going to college in the fall. I am enrolled in a very challenging course and I will be investing a lot of time and money into my studies. I have the possibility to have a very comfortable salary straight out of college and practically a 100% employment rate. Sometimes I worry that I am going to fuck up this great opportunity or end of hating my career. I was talking to my mom about this the other night and she had some awesome stuff to say, shes grounded as fuck and reads Tolle type books.

She said something along the lines of , "Never get caught up in who you are in this world, things will always be changing around you and the only constant is your soul (she prefers 'soul' over 'being'). Do whatever you want to do, and never stay trapped somewhere you don't want to be."

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Your mom is a pretty solid

Your mom is a pretty solid woman- that's spot on. 

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GETTIN' RIGHT BACK ON THE

GETTIN' RIGHT BACK ON THE HORSE BABY!!

First interview already setup for next week (just got the email like 2 minutes ago)- They're a major player in the adtech space too so it's one of the 2 industries I'm looking for, and a major company within the space. Would mean I relocate back to NY but that's not a deal-breaker because NY is one of the three locations I'm willing to live: SF, NYC, Austin.... would really  just depend on total compensation//career growth opportunities

Remain calm, and just do what needs to get done. 

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Good shit. Yeah if I was to

Good shit. Yeah if I was to start working again it'd probably be in adtech. Either that or I'd go back to school for some sort of engineering degree. 

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Manwhore wrote:Good shit.

Manwhore wrote:
Good shit. Yeah if I was to start working again it'd probably be in adtech. Either that or I'd go back to school for some sort of engineering degree. 

Yeah, I mean Adtech is huge right now... That and SaaS are basically the present and future of the tech world. The only thing i'd want more than adtech, at this exact moment, would be to find a SaaS company in SF that is like a mid//late-stage startup about to get bought by google. Get in there, sell their SaaS product, and then once Google buys em' grow my career there and then years down the line, get a group of engineering coworkers and start my own company (that's like my ideal scenario for my dream board right now)

Oh and dude I've said this for a couple years now - if anyone were to ever ask me what they should study if they purely want to make a ton of money//build a company etc. i'd say engineering 10/10 times. If you are an engineer who can also be super personable and sell shit... yeah you're basically a god

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Yeah, I'm trying to get my

Yeah, I'm trying to get my youngest sister to switch her degree over to engineering. She's working on sociology right now, DURR. lol 

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You could start an SaaS

You could start an SaaS project right now actually. All it takes is an idea and hardwork/execution. There are plenty of Indian dudes running around on odesk, freelancer, elance, that you can start having do all sorts of weird shit. See what pans out 

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Manwhore wrote:You could

Manwhore wrote:
You could start an SaaS project right now actually. All it takes is an idea and hardwork/execution. There are plenty of Indian dudes running around on odesk, freelancer, elance, that you can start having do all sorts of weird shit. See what pans out 

That's true - I've used some odesk ppl before lol. I actually don't have an idea for a product right now but me and some buddies have a google spreadsheet that we will occassionally all throw ideas onto

U5 is actually a SUPER legit engineer. Dude was an engineer at google.. once he's got his shit ready to go, he'll be a real good guy to know 

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Manwhore wrote: Yeah, I'm

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Yeah, I'm trying to get my youngest sister to switch her degree over to engineering. She's working on sociology right now, DURR. lol 

Oh yeah, fuck that shit. Engineering. Plus if she's a girl she'll have it like doubly-made cause there are so many fucking "get girls into engineering' programs out there that all these companies are trying to get going.  And if she's hot it'll be even better for her, for obv reasons 

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Lots of people have tried to

Lots of people have tried to work with U5 before, lol. 

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Sociology isn't bad if she

Sociology isn't bad if she gets her masters and is watched by a clinical sociologist for 2 years. They make good money and they run their own show. They can write scripts and are good therapists. There is actually a huge need for them. The VA especially needs them. Or she could start her own therapy practice. Not bad. I was thinking of going back to school for that or finance.

computer engineering pays the most for college grads.

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The world is gonna be run by

The world is gonna be run by engineers and the tech they create and somebody is gonna have to council them, when they're depressed 'cause they couldn't get the right interior color for their benz

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i'll take the benz please ; )

i'll take the benz please ; )

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I sincerely hope so. But so

I sincerely hope so. But so far I don't believe it. They still don't know their own value, they should have cheerleaders and groupies and women running around trying to bang them.

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uh, come out to silicon

uh, come out to silicon valley bruh and i'll take you to the next facebook party i'm invited to - the last one had more than a few... ehm... cheerleaders 

That came across douchey, but I think you're still right - the HUGE MAJORITY of engineers lack the confidence to wear the crown. 

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Yeah I think those are two

Yeah I think those are two separate things, I could be wrong though and I'd LOVE IT. But take Tai Lopez for example.. dude is a boss, but simply hasn't taken on the "I'm fucking sexy" mantle. The things he says about women and dating is just like.. DURR. Completely unempowered. 

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When I was semi "big" in the

When I was semi "big" in the affiliate marketing game I'd have female aff managers and such try to "court" me. There's all kinds of women drawn to the money in the industry. And in fact women are the ones that generally do very well as they sort of form these "fan bases" of young male up 'n comers in the industry. 

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And then you have dudes like

And then you have dudes like Travis Kalanick who are on the total other side of the spectrum, taking narcisism to the limit 

Also - if you happen to have a ton of money and are getting laid... of course the money is gonna attract the bees but doesn't make the honey any less sweet.

The really really sad cases are the engineers who have all this money, create these BADASS products, but are still like middle//upper management - not working for themselves, and not getting laid at all. ugh

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^ Cool never even heard of

^ Cool never even heard of that guy. Good for him fuck yeah. Yeah those guys are sad but I'm more scrutinizing the culture that breeds this sort of fucked up stupidity. I remember the year it was all of a sudden not cool anymore to be smart. I had to say goodbye to so much 

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ohhhh yeah. It's all

ohhhh yeah. It's all marketing though in a sense... I think in a way it's still cool to be smart - you're just not supposed to wear a pocket protector and tell people your favorite race is protoss

Dude it was 7th//8th grade for me, btw... I was playing magic the gathering at lunch, and I also happened to be the best player on the basketball team. My coach came to the lunch area for some reason and saw me playing magic the gathering on the picnic tables and just the look on his face.... it was never the same

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Well I don't think I have to

Well I don't think I have to tell anyone my favorite race is Protoss, I think everyone just assumes it. But I'm more talking about 5th 'n 6th graders. Seems to me that's the time period where everyone splits off. That's where the "lowest common denominator" starts to take hold. 

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I went to a private grade

I went to a private grade school so it was high school for me. I remember actually being kind of culture shocked when I went to college and people actual gave a shit and tried in their classes.

Oh and Zerg #1

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Yeah I was gonna mention

Yeah I was gonna mention that. 

There's def. a 'resurgence", of sorts, that happens in college. 

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pottedflowers wrote: Dude it

pottedflowers wrote:

Dude it was 7th//8th grade for me, btw... I was playing magic the gathering at lunch, and I also happened to be the best player on the basketball team. My coach came to the lunch area for some reason and saw me playing magic the gathering on the picnic tables and just the look on his face.... it was never the same

Damn. That was rough 

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RezznT wrote: Oh and Zerg

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Oh and Zerg #1

Wtf.

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