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Ideas on change, anxiety and expanding our comfort zone

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This is a post intended for anyone dealing with anxiety.  There are probably people that follow this forum but never speak up, assert or express themselves. For a short time, I was that way. I followed the pickup community, filling my head with knowledge with the hope that I could arm myself with the required know-how and silently transform myself into a pickup machine. The problem is that the way I was in the forum is the way I was when I'd find the courage to go out, a spectator. I had acquired the knowledge but I wasn't internalizing it by taking action. The longer I gained knowledge without taking action the more pressure I'd put on myself, that pressure became anxiety.  

 

The bad news: getting over the anxiety required taking action. It was a painful process. The problem was that I was holding on to a set of beliefs that weren't serving me. I think of it like having a pet boulder. The boulder was heavy but it was mine, it was always with me. It was there for good times and bad. The time came when I figured out that where I wanted to be was at the top of a hill. I tried to take the boulder with me. I couldn't. I would have to leave it behind but had never lived without it, I had no way of knowing if I could live without it. This is why fear of change is fear of death.

 

The good news: it is absolutely do-able, and it feels so good when you do. I'm not here to say that I've reached the promised land and no longer have any fears, doubts or insecurities. What I have done is set out on my path. That alone has made things infinitely easier. I am no longer bottled up, I am in flow.  I don't consider anxiety to be a huge problem anymore, I have tools, I know what to do. I'd be happy to expand on that, ask.

 

My intention here is to reach out to anyone who might be reading this who feels like they're on the outside looking in. The answer is to take action, let this be your first step. Feel free to introduce yourself, there will be no ball busting on this thread. 

 

I invite anyone to share in this post. My hopes are that some new guys are ready to step out and make themselves heard. I'm also genuinely interested to hear some thoughts from the usual bros. I still deal with anxiety and expanding my comfort zone, I'm at the point now though that if I don't push myself at least a little bit I feel deeply imbalanced. 

 

What are some of your thoughts relating to anxiety and pushing your limits, boundaries and comfort zones? 

 

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Hey holmes you want to change

Hey holmes you want to change the thread title? I understand what you mean but I think it will be lost on most of your intended audience.

Also, what do you think of eft/tapping?

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I actually have my second

I actually have my second ever appointment with a bio-energetic therapist on Saturday, she got me into tapping. I sometimes do tapping mainly on my chest, its where I find I have the most locked up energy. I like it ok, it probably works great for some. What I'm really into these days is deep resonating sounds (om's). Elliott Hulse talks about it in the "breathe into your balls" video. It's been great for me in what he would describe as breaking up "neurotic holding patterns", allowing me to feel more grounded. Another sexy benefit is its deepening my voice 

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Oh yeah that's part of the

Oh yeah that's part of the vocal training we did as well. I just call it a different name and give it a different focus.

It's interesting a lot of the guys in the community try to hate on tapping as if they're trying to say, "Yeah sorry I refuse to acknowledge my weakness/ignorance any farther!" Lol

But it's just a very powerful and absolutely mandatory practice for humans. We NEED to stay in direct mental contact with our bodies. Otherwise we lose control of it. And then this is when bodily emotions and physiological responses start existing outside our control. We become a slave to our mind's control of our bodies. General social anxiety, approach anxiety, being stifled and mentally/vocally blocked.. these are all symptoms of this extremely common affliction.

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Manwhore wrote: Oh yeah

Manwhore wrote:
Oh yeah that's part of the vocal training we did as well

 

Another amazing tip from our sessions was practicing the power of now, 20 minutes a day. You made an excellent point that by listening a bit daily it serves as a daily reminder.

 

The vocal drills are an incredible tool as well for clearing the mind. I saw an Alex free tour last summer and he brought up a point that often guys who are in an artistic field, even something kinda nerdy like photo editing or something seem to do well at pickup. It seems to have to do with being comfortable expressing and asserting yourself. In addition to the obvious benefit of the vocal drills as far as vocal projection and tonality, they also benefit me in that the act of doing them leaves me feeling expressed, relaxed, not bottled up anymore. It's like an emptying-out, taking whatever's on your chest and dumping it. I think probably any artistic outlet you pour your soul into would do this for you but the vocal drills do it really well for me.

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I'd be interested to hear

I'd be interested to hear from Infinity and Dark Rain and whatever other artists might be kicking around.. What effect does your artistic expression have on you? Do you feel more calm, grounded when you're making more art, music etc?

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Any of you fuckbots have OCD

Any of you fuckbots have OCD or the like? Insomnia, etc. 

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I have OCD.

I have OCD.

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TheKing wrote: I have

TheKing wrote:
I have OCD.

What kind of tools do you use that allow you to feel in control? Have you done any meditation etc?

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I don't know know first hand

I don't know know first hand what OCD is like but it seems similar to other forms of anxiety in that your mind is trying to run a program on you, telling you a story, trying to stress you out about something that's not real.

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Jack.Ruby wrote: I actually

Jack.Ruby wrote:
I actually have my second ever appointment with a bio-energetic therapist on Saturday, she got me into tapping. I sometimes do tapping mainly on my chest, its where I find I have the most locked up energy. I like it ok, it probably works great for some. What I'm really into these days is deep resonating sounds (om's). Elliott Hulse talks about it in the "breathe into your balls" video. It's been great for me in what he would describe as breaking up "neurotic holding patterns", allowing me to feel more grounded. Another sexy benefit is its deepening my voice 

Elliot has some awesome videos. Try rolling out the bottom of your feet with a baseball bat, it grounds the hell outta you. I also enjoy the rapid and random shaking, it really spreads out any locked up energy. 

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Manwhore wrote: Any of you

Manwhore wrote:
Any of you fuckbots have OCD or the like? Insomnia, etc. 

I have OCD when it comes to keeping things clean and I live with a bunch of fucking slobs lol, it actually stresses me the fuck out. 

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Jack.Ruby wrote: I'd be

Jack.Ruby wrote:
I'd be interested to hear from Infinity and Dark Rain and whatever other artists might be kicking around.. What effect does your artistic expression have on you? Do you feel more calm, grounded when you're making more art, music etc?

Making music definitely gets me into a 'flow' state, a couple of times I've spent all day working on a song and got a euphoric high off it, literally like I'd dropped molly on a couple of occasions. Never really realised you can get such a natural high from getting deeply immersed in something.

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Jack.Ruby wrote:TheKing

Jack.Ruby wrote:
TheKing wrote:
I have OCD.

What kind of tools do you use that allow you to feel in control? Have you done any meditation etc?

I don't know man, my OCD started whit supertitions shit. Like you shouldn't pass under stairs, don't walk through a black cat, otherwise you will have bad luck, etc.

So I think that I kind of develop my own superstitions like wash hands two times, don't touch things with the pinkie finger, etc.  YEP I KNOW... lol

My mom took me to a neurologist and I started to took 15g of clomipramina/anafranil, I think I was 15 at the time.

Then I starded to get into the pickup wolrd and discovered self actualization, I think I was 17. So that expanded my awareness about the world, and made me realize how ridiculous the beliefs I had were.

How retarded was the shit I was thinking, like WTF dude wake the fuck up *bitch slap*. 

So that superstition shit combine with the fact I was weak minded, walking through a fog of self doubt, probably because of my upbringing, was the psychological cause of my OCD.

Also the fact that I was very perfectionist and I still am, I think I got that from soccer and also from trying to gaing approval from my dad. I'm brazilian so I used to play every day, I wanted to be the best and I developed my skill to a professional level, I had a agent and was in a big team with top structure in the country, but I was underage and my dad wouldn't sign the deal because it would pass his legals "father powers" to the agent. So that high perfectionism was I factor too.

But nowadays I have no problem with OCD, I mean sometimes I still have those retarded thoghts, from some unrealistic belief, but I recognize them in a milisecond and realize the retardedness of it all. So it have no effect on me, it's under control.

I don't meditate or anything like that. I just play sports, study self actualization, do cold approuch pickup, go to college, it's pretty much a mindset thing I think. But I definitely want to start to meditate and create the habit.

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It's interesting you "fixed"

It's interesting you "fixed" your OCD. I did the same thing back when I was a young kid. 7 or 8 years old 

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Good job King. 

Good job King. 

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Outstanding

Outstanding

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Manwhore wrote: It's

Manwhore wrote:
It's interesting you "fixed" your OCD. I did the same thing back when I was a young kid. 7 or 8 years old 

I don't know if you're serious or tooling me here, maybe both. lol 

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He also killed him a bear

He also killed him a bear when he was only three. He's the Davy Crockett of self development lol

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Oops no ball busting, I

Oops no ball busting, I forgot lol

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Babywhore

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Lol I'll do a quick write-up

Lol I'll do a quick write-up on it later today.

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Solid post. Bump

Solid post. Bump

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