Investment: A full-on NERD breakdown: Mega-Post

Went out with a buddy of mine last night and today we had almost an hour and a half long breakdown. It was a pretty high-level conversation and I wanted to share some of what we discussed, my interpretation of it and how I currently see "Investment" or better put, "Getting her to invest"

It's amazing because within investment, or rather- more accurately, "Getting HER to invest"- you have so many aspects of game interlaced:

Qualification
Detachment from outcome
eye contact
Cold Reading
Authenticity
Leading
Comfort
Creating Space


One thing I realized is that I'm sorta at this point where I have a TON of value.... and I'm basically just like brute-forcing my interactions, sometimes all the way to the bedroom through RAW value... Like for me, being a super cool, funny, engaging, attractive guy, isn't something I have to TRY and do anymore. It's just...THERE. I step in front of the girl and it's BAM... value is just staring her in the face. But if you give someone a TON of value, for free, whatever it is you are giving them, AUTOMATICALLY loses its value.

It's the same reason that so many trust-fund babies are so fucked up. Their parents give them a TON of value, money, clothes, houses etc... and to the parents, they want to give it to their kids because the parents WORKED for it... the parents UNDERSTAND THE VALUE because they had to work for it and so they see it as an AMAZING gift to give to their children. In their eyes, it's like, "I realize how much value I created and I love my kids more than anything in the world, so the biggest gift I can give them to show this love, is all this value that I have"

But the kids didn't work for it. So, on the one hand, they do appreciate it. They appreciate it IN THE MOMENT. Like in that moment when daddy gives them money for rent... like ON THAT PHONECALL they are super appreciative and saying "I love you I love you I love you... Thank you so much daddy... YOUR THE BEST" But then they go ahead and spend all that money on drugs/alcohol and other shit and completely waste it because at the end of the day, they didn't work for that money, so they just don't appreciate it... THEY CANT APPRECIATE IT... So despite the fact that on an objective level, they recieved a TON of value... That same value, actually loses it's majesty because it was so freely given, without any work required... So the kids mistreat and abuse the value they have been given and as soon as the phonecall is over, they lose any appreciation for daddy that they may have had.

It's the same with girls- once you get to the point where you HAVE the value, you can't just give it away for free. And I think that for anyone that comes up in this game and is dedicated to it and goes from "Chode to Pimp"- like the full "transformation" sotospeak... There is an inevitable period where you HAVE the value and you actually want to just give it away because it's amazing to be in a position where you finally have... IT... like that shit you've worked so hard for.... You finally have it.

But you can't just give it away- so this is where "Getting her to invest" comes into play.

INVESTMENT:

So the first question I had was: How do I get her to invest in a way where she doesn't just lose interest... How do you make it "Worth her time" to invest.

The key here is the following: You want to give her opportunities to feel validated. You basically need to give her the space necessary to invest. You have to give her that window of opportunity.

So this is where QUALIFICATION comes into play. You essentially want to create a situation where she feels "Rewarded" for investing.

An example of this is allowing silence to fill the space of the conversation and then just letting it sit there and waiting for her to say something... ANYTHING

When she finally does say something- you REWARD her for investing. You tell her that what she said was cool and WHY what she said was cool.

So part of getting her to invest is simply "Qualification"- You need to make her understand that there are REASONS that you like her, besides the fact that she's hot and you want to fuck her. Because if you ONLY want to fuck her- that's actually EXTREMELY devaluing for the girl.

So in order to do this you have to be GENUINELY interested in the girl. You gotta figure out what she's all about... and then on top of that you have to understand what it is that YOU want out of a woman. What is it that you find attractive and "cool" about girls, so that if she has one of these qualities, you can TELL HER and let her know that you appreciate that about her.

So you make it worth her time to invest because you REWARD her for investing. You give her a little bit of validation, each time she invests.

The cool part about this is that you are also simultaneously making her feel comfortable because you are getting to know her AND showing her WHY you like her... so in the process of getting her to invest, you are automatically qualifying her and making her feel comfortable.

so you basically get a girl to invest by showing her that you like girls who invest. You do this by rewarding her when she DOES invest.... But you have to first and foremost- give her OPPORTUNITIES to invest. If you are smothering her, or leaning into her space (both figuratively and metaphorically) too much, you just aren't even giving her an OPPORTUNITY to invest.

So you give her opportunities to invest by asking her about herself, letting there be silence in the interaction and then the important part is actually paying attention to what she says and REWARDING her when she invests and says something cool.

So really, it's like training a dog. Since you already have the value... All you have to do is train her to understand HOW she can have the value. Like you have to train her and basically indirectly tell her the steps that she can take to have your value.

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