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Damn I might have screwed the pooch tonight boys!  I walk in to my neighbourhood pub at about 11 after working a bit late this eve.  There's about 5 or 6 dudes lining the bar, clearly all gawking and gaming the bartender.  I roll in and elbow myself a seat in the middle, bullshit with the boys, chat up the lady and kill an hour until she starts closing up. Some helicopter pilot chode is gaming hard, this older fat bastard is telling me under his breath how he's going to "get" her. The place seems to be clearing out so I roll straight up to her as shes talking with heli-pilot dude and she throws her arms around me. I suggest we head to town for last call, she's in, and excited. The boys are shooting me some dirty looks, older bastard has the grace to say "nice job". I roll out of there to my place to change up and let her close so she can come pick me up.  Just now she texts me "still trying to pry the drinks away from these boys".  Those fuckers were heading out and now they've sat their asses back down and right now they're cockblocking and choding because I walked out of there a minute too early. 

Lesson: If I had pulled her out of there to last call, I'd have beat out those other dudes mainly because I was thinking logistically while they were busy "gaming". I'd have probably made the same mistake once upon a time.  I still managed to fuck it up. I didn't walk her out of there and I turned my back on those cockblocking jackals.

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Here's the texts if you're

Here's the texts if you're interested:

I txtd my num as I walked out of the bar 12:38:   AJ ;)

her 1am:   Hey AJ :)

then her again:   still trying to pry the drinks away from these boys

me:   I know you can do it

me:   soldier

me (half hour later):   wher u at?

her (way too late for last call in town):   just got the boys home to k-town, home now

me:   Ha! Jackals! No biggie, come over anyway

her:   I have no wheels :( Rain check?

I'm not sure how she lives in k-town and has no wheels, confusing..

me:   sure. What happened to your wheels?

her:   never had any lol Drove the guys in (older bastard's) car

me:   HA! Holy shit what a deal! Ok cool. Lets see about a hi-lite for you this week.

i had asked her at the bar what her hi-lite-of-the-week was, she didn't have one. No-one did. I said I was going to go home and hang myself in the shower.

her:   I'd frecking love that :)

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Dude that's first rule of

Dude that's first rule of Fight Club! You walk out the door with her lol 

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^ ok, we all know that's not

^ ok, we all know that's not the first or second rule of fight club, but I see your point. Rookie mistake, shit!   

Oh well, it's on for Tuesday ;)

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Picked this girl up

Picked this girl up mid-afternoon today. A storm just ripped through here and left the mountaintops snowy. I like to take a quad or dirt bike up the mountain this time of year. We grabbed the quad, deployed it at the bottom of a mountain range near my house (about 2000' above sea level).  We headed up the mountain towards an alpine cabin high up in the mountains (6 or 7000'). Just as we got to the top we reached the snow-line. The cabin was snow kissed with snow all around. Someone must have been there not long before us because there was a fire still going.  I pulled her in a little and met some resistance, I should have pushed harder in hindsight. We chilled in the cabin for awhile by the fire. It started DUMPING snow, it was awesome! After an hour or two the sun came out again, we jumped back on the atv and bolted back down the mountain during sunset. The trails and roads were in great shape so we were able to bomb down the mountain fast.

Back to my place, lit a fire in the pit on my porch. We made gluten free pizzas together with fresh spices, ham, peppers and bacon, chilled on the couch, fucked for awhile, ice cream in the jacuzzi, fucked some more. 

Her: "I never came so quickly before!" "I just came like 4 times!" "OMG you're fucking amazing!"

fuckyeah

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Nice! Ask her if she liked it

Nice! Ask her if she liked it better than the old man dick from the other night 

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There was another huge lesson

There was another huge lesson here actually. After the resistance at the cabin, there was a moment when I thought it might not happen ie. she might not be down. Later on, after sex, she confided that prior to the date she had been hoping that it would. (So why the resistance?) it seems clear that women are biologically programmed to put up some "token" resistance as a test of a potential mates worthiness. The problem for modern men is that its drilled into us from everywhere that "no means no". And ultimately (of course) it does. "Token" resistance will be like a 2 out of 10 resistance, where "10" would be her with a straight-arm in your chest and her saying firmly, "get away from me!" Women want to be taken, swept off their feet by a guy who knows what he wants. 

(Aside- The ego loves token resistance. It's a perfect excuse to say "oh well, I tried. I guess she doesn't like me. Better quit and move on before I make a fool of myself)

Obviously the key to this is calibration. Developing the intuition to know the difference between token resistance and real resistance. Reading her sub communications: body language, tonality, eye contact etc. learning to have a firm, yet gentle hand with her. Meeting her "level 2" resistance with "level 5" force, while being present and in the narrow realm of being tuned-in to her emotional state, while not "reaction-seeking" or looking for "ioi"s. it's a delicate subject and one thats difficult to comment on. I have so much love and respect for women and would never want anyone to misunderstand this advice and push someone further than they truly want to go. It seems perfectly clear, however, that if one ever wants to get laid; they're going to have to learn to push "a little".

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Yeah I like this whole thread

Yeah I like this whole thread and ^that comment. In her "hoping" that something would go down she doesn't just mean she wanted a dick in her, she wanted you to be a man a put your dick in her. She is hoping you blow through her token resistance and take her.

I like when you said that the ego loves it. Cause when your present you dont even really see it as resistance in the least. Your intuition is fully there and aware of whats up.

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A.j.Ruby wrote: (Aside- The

A.j.Ruby wrote:

(Aside- The ego loves token resistance. It's a perfect excuse to say "oh well, I tried. I guess she doesn't like me. Better quit and move on before I make a fool of myself)

This made me feel really bad, because it's so true, and I've done it so many times.

Anyways, sweet story dude, really helpful stuff. Where do you live where you're already gettting snow? 

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A.j's one o'dem klondikes 

A.j's one o'dem klondikes 

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The cool thing about the snow

The cool thing about the snow is its only snowy on the mountaintops/ high altitude this time of year, its a totally different climate up there. Down below it might be rain or not at all. It won't snow at my place for months. I'm in bc

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A.j.Ruby wrote: There was

A.j.Ruby wrote:
There was another huge lesson here actually. After the resistance at the cabin, there was a moment when I thought it might not happen ie. she might not be down. Later on, after sex, she confided that prior to the date she had been hoping that it would. (So why the resistance?) it seems clear that women are biologically programmed to put up some "token" resistance as a test of a potential mates worthiness. The problem for modern men is that its drilled into us from everywhere that "no means no". And ultimately (of course) it does. "Token" resistance will be like a 2 out of 10 resistance, where "10" would be her with a straight-arm in your chest and her saying firmly, "get away from me!" Women want to be taken, swept off their feet by a guy who knows what he wants. 

(Aside- The ego loves token resistance. It's a perfect excuse to say "oh well, I tried. I guess she doesn't like me. Better quit and move on before I make a fool of myself)

Obviously the key to this is calibration. Developing the intuition to know the difference between token resistance and real resistance. Reading her sub communications: body language, tonality, eye contact etc. learning to have a firm, yet gentle hand with her. Meeting her "level 2" resistance with "level 5" force, while being present and in the narrow realm of being tuned-in to her emotional state, while not "reaction-seeking" or looking for "ioi"s. it's a delicate subject and one thats difficult to comment on. I have so much love and respect for women and would never want anyone to misunderstand this advice and push someone further than they truly want to go. It seems perfectly clear, however, that if one ever wants to get laid; they're going to have to learn to push "a little".

Good shit

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A.j.Ruby wrote: There was

A.j.Ruby wrote:
There was another huge lesson here actually. After the resistance at the cabin, there was a moment when I thought it might not happen ie. she might not be down. Later on, after sex, she confided that prior to the date she had been hoping that it would. (So why the resistance?) it seems clear that women are biologically programmed to put up some "token" resistance as a test of a potential mates worthiness. The problem for modern men is that its drilled into us from everywhere that "no means no". And ultimately (of course) it does. "Token" resistance will be like a 2 out of 10 resistance, where "10" would be her with a straight-arm in your chest and her saying firmly, "get away from me!" Women want to be taken, swept off their feet by a guy who knows what he wants. 

(Aside- The ego loves token resistance. It's a perfect excuse to say "oh well, I tried. I guess she doesn't like me. Better quit and move on before I make a fool of myself)

Obviously the key to this is calibration. Developing the intuition to know the difference between token resistance and real resistance. Reading her sub communications: body language, tonality, eye contact etc. learning to have a firm, yet gentle hand with her. Meeting her "level 2" resistance with "level 5" force, while being present and in the narrow realm of being tuned-in to her emotional state, while not "reaction-seeking" or looking for "ioi"s. it's a delicate subject and one thats difficult to comment on. I have so much love and respect for women and would never want anyone to misunderstand this advice and push someone further than they truly want to go. It seems perfectly clear, however, that if one ever wants to get laid; they're going to have to learn to push "a little".

If it isn't too delicate a subject, this is I topic I wouldn't mind discussing on this weeks teleconference

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This area really isn't

This area really isn't appropriate for a public teleconference. 

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When I teach in this area I

When I teach in this area I embed certain moral boundaries and safeguards. To just put it out there is irresponsible. We can touch on it a bit but understand you guys don't really have the experience or know-how to talk on this. 

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Manwhore wrote: When I teach

Manwhore wrote:
When I teach in this area I embed certain moral boundaries and safeguards. To just put it out there is irresponsible. We can touch on it a bit but understand you guys don't really have the experience or know-how to talk on this. 

Yeah, this is def a touchy subject.

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G-Money wrote: Manwhore

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Manwhore wrote:
When I teach in this area I embed certain moral boundaries and safeguards. To just put it out there is irresponsible. We can touch on it a bit but understand you guys don't really have the experience or know-how to talk on this. 

Yeah, this is def a touchy subject.

I definitely misunderstood this advice at one point and tried pushing too hard, ended up acting kinda needy. Felt pretty terrible afterwards. Maybe you should talk briefly on it to avoid this kind of retarded misuse of information lol

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darkrain wrote: G-Money

darkrain wrote:
G-Money wrote:
Manwhore wrote:
When I teach in this area I embed certain moral boundaries and safeguards. To just put it out there is irresponsible. We can touch on it a bit but understand you guys don't really have the experience or know-how to talk on this. 

Yeah, this is def a touchy subject.

I definitely misunderstood this advice at one point and tried pushing too hard, ended up acting kinda needy. Felt pretty terrible afterwards. Maybe you should talk briefly on it to avoid this kind of retarded misuse of information lol

I think a lot of it has to do with experience and definitely some intuition too. There's an extremely fine line between pushing too hard and upseting the girl or pulling back just in time to make her open up eventually. Jeffy speaks on this a bit, let me see if I can find a video. I think it would be cool to briefly touch on like you said, and maybe go over more in depth if (when) I pay for MW's coaching program.

EDIT: Okay, so start at 7:00 this kind of hits on what I'm talking about




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^ That's very very minimal.

^ That's very very minimal. Yes the snazzy lines are great they come out naturally, but he hinted at the real issue with the idea of "inevitability". 

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