The Job I want
All comes down to one final role-play on modnay morning. There's been 4 rounds and 6 interviws- after monday it will be 5 rounds and 7 interviws. Everybody loves me, and is pulling for me - like literally emailing me and giving me tips on how I can improve. Just the global head of blah blah blah didn't think my thought process//answers to the case study we did in his interview showed linear thinking or as much depth as he was looking for.
This feedback has been mullin around in my head - just trying to figure out how I feel about it but more importantly what exactly happened, because my thought process/ability to think through complex problems is one of my better skill-sets. Went and saw a movie to just forget about all this job//interview crap, which was awesome. But after clearing my head, I realized there were a couple things going on.
First off, the process is mentally grueling. They have hour-long interviews, and every single person asks you the same exact questions, over and over and over again. They are slightly rephrased each time, but often they just act the exact same questino over and over. I figured out what they were doing pretty early on though, so that def. mentally helped me relax and focus. They were clearly just looking for consistencies//inconsistencies//exaggerations in all of the facts on the resume. They then also wanted to see how your "overarching storyline" shifted over time//with different interviewers. They were all taking insane amounts of notes, so it was clear they were comparing and then they would come back and dig into specific areas further.
They would always go 3-4 questions deep on any given line of thought. So, they might start with something casual like, "So you put that you did x on your resume - tell me about that". Then I would tell them, and they would pick out one thing and just keep digging 3-4 more questions. They didn't just want to hear your story, they wanted to then dig into that story and figure out where the foundation was. If the story was bullshit, they'd dig up the foundation and it would crumble. Anyway, i dealt with all of this very well. My shit was fucking air-tight. I also was very aware//mindful of their mind games, so I just made sure to be super consistent (within reason - i didn't want to come across like a robot).
But it was tough because despiet being mindful of what was going on - it was just exhuasting. To have 6-7 hours of person after person asking you the exact same questions over and over and then digging into each of your answers is just kinda exhausting. So, by the time it got to the last interviewer, I think I just let my guard down a little. The case study was the first thing that was different. Nobody else had done a case study, and in the moment it almost felt like a reprieve. I distinctly remember feeling more relaxed - like, "Oh thank god I get a break".... but because I let my guard down, I allowed myself to get hit. I didn't think through the case study in the way I'm capable of.
So, I don't think he's wrong to think that my answer was lacking certain qualities of solid thinking//logic, but I do know that it's not because I fundamentally didn't know how to answer it, but rather because I let my guard down, and for a second I just wasn't giving it my 100% effort.
So, that leaves me where I'm at right now. I have 3 days to study for the final role-play. This final role-play will be the determining factor in whether or not I get the job. So, while it certainly seems like a big deal, and it's definitley important, I'm not going to deny that, and not going to deny I want this job. But the process of what I need to do in order to be successful on Monday is no different than what I've always done. i just put in 100% effort, do the necessary research and don't leave a single drop of gas left in the tank.... I do those things and I will be successful - and at the very least I'll hang my hat on having done my best.
If I don't get this specific gig, it's also not the end of the world - I def. want it pretty badly. They pay insanely well and the career path is epic. I mean, to be blunt it's prob the best sales gig I could get in the planet right now... but tthat's also why the process is so intense - you basically got a fuckton of top sales guys gunnin' for this shit. The fact that I even made it to the final round is something in and of itself. But I have just one final mission.
The next three days, I am locking myself in my house. The only activities I will be doing over the next three days are the following:
1. Researching
2. Running
3. Meditating
4. Sleeping
I will be doing those three activities on repeat for three days straight. Literally nothing else. Zero fucking chance this slips through the cracks.
You identified the top decision maker(s) for this position?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
It's a total group decision but I think I know who would have the most say.
at this stage in the process, I think they just have to see that I can do certain technical things. Like I'm 95% certain that the entire group wants to hire me but they gotta see me successfully do one of these case studies
The way I see it- I've sold them on the product (me). But now it's time for the demo. No matter how good of a salesman you are, if your product doesn't work - if the demo fails to do what the client needs, they aren't going to buy from you, no matter how successfully you've sold the product.
That being said - At this stage in the game, it's less about getting or not getting the gig (although getting it would def. be sweet), but more about being able to look back on the process and confidently tell myself, "You gave it 100% and there was literally nothing left you could have done".
It's like, if I'm racing somebody on a treadmill and it's a competition for who can go for longer, and I step off the treadmill and lose that way - that's one thing, and that's tough to live with.
BUT
If I just physically collapse from exhaustion, fall down, and go into a seizure from a lack of hydration//just complete body shut-down.... and lose as a result of that - that's a totally different story. I can live with that.
Win or lose - no regrets about the work I've put into the process. No regrets.
Ever
BOOM
Set em' up, knock em' down.
Just got the verbal offer today. Official offer coming tomorrow. Fucking crushed this shit.
Obviosuly
Awesome. 6 figures?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yessir - 6 figures + pre-IPo equity (they're a billion dollar company that hasn't gone public yet so that part of the package is worth about 20-30k)
plus basic shit like 401k
more importantly there's a very clear career trajectory and its a very big name that will pay off big on the ol' resume. Also the experience itself is going to be super valuable
Oh shit
Bout to turn up the heat on this bitch. Got another offer comin' in hot.
Time to let the fun part begin - negotiatin' time
Well so this happened...
2nd company just offered me pre-ipo stock worth between 80-160k as well as similar salary
As well as guidance that after 12 months my comp would get bumped to 200k... this shit just got fucking REAL
Yeah that's some real shit.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
It's official- this nigs got a job. Just signed all the papers
Achieved every single goal I set out to accomplish when I quit my last job, plus was able to negotiate an extra 10k on top of the original offer.
On top of that, I receieved an offer from the company that I dreamed of in my head when I quit and actually ended up turning it down for a better offer.
im now in the exact industry I want to be in, making 6-figures, with a very clear path to making 200k within 12 months.
That was quite a ride boys- whatta journey.
-Till next time
Ok so you didn't go with the company you were doing all the prenups for?
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Nah get a better offer . I had both on the table and I thought the environment of the first may actually have been a little "structurally intense" for me.
the 2nd place gave me more dough,is just as legit of a name, is a slightly more complex sales-cycle (less complex product though)
but ya the decision basically came down to which manager//culture was going to cause less stress. Cause all the other factors were kinda a wash
Cool sounds like you made the best decision for sure. Congratz jiggerboo
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Thanks dude. It's a big shift in terms of what and how I'll be selling but I'm obv ready to make the switch and run with the big boys. Been itchin for this
I start on the 15th and before I start work I'm doing a lot of writing and reflecting on the following:
1. What are th specific goals that I want to accomplish in my first 12 months
2. What kind of mindset am I going to have walking into this gig
3. How do I want to be perceived at work
4. What is it going to specifically take for me to accomplish my goals over the course of a 12 month timeline
5. What are 2 activities I can do, outside of work, so I don't get too obsessed with work
6. Reflect on the importance of balance in my life, especially as I'm going into a new. exciting and challenging opportunity
one thing I really like about myself and the decision I made is that despite getting heavily invested and making some irrational coents like, "this would be the best possible job on the planet for me"... I still had the mindfulness and presence to objectively consider th two offers and go wth the 2nd one. I didn't let my invesent or irrational thinking impact the actual decision I made.
Thanks dude. It's a big shift in terms of what and how I'll be selling but I'm obv ready to make the switch and run with the big boys. Been itchin for this
I start on the 15th and before I start work I'm doing a lot of writing and reflecting on the following:
1. What are th specific goals that I want to accomplish in my first 12 months
2. What kind of mindset am I going to have walking into this gig
3. How do I want to be perceived at work
4. What is it going to specifically take for me to accomplish my goals over the course of a 12 month timeline
5. What are 2 activities I can do, outside of work, so I don't get too obsessed with work
6. Reflect on the importance of balance in my life, especially as I'm going into a new. exciting and challenging opportunity
one thing I really like about myself and the decision I made is that despite getting heavily invested and making some irrational comments like, "this would be the best possible job on the planet for me"... I still had the mindfulness and presence to objectively consider the two offers and go wth the one that would be better for me. I didn't let my investment or irrational thinking impact the actual decision I made.
That's fucking awesome man, excited for you. No need to update me on PMs, as I just read exactly what I wanted to know. Have you or MW ever watched Jordan Belfort's Straight Line Persuasion seminar?