To keep the banter going or shut up until meeting up?

"Wine tasting at your apt" zach? May as well ask her if she "wants to come over for a gangbang and possible bukkake."

^ I have pulled it off before (this week actually) - Met a british bird at a club couple of weeks ago, talked for all of 3 minutes, she opened me on the dance floor by taking my baseball cap off my head and wearing it, we exchanged FB deets, then I told her I was going to the smokers area and to not lose it but then got distracted and ended up going home. Got her to buy me a bottle of wine and bring it over Monday night, met on the street outside my house across the road from the beach, went straight in and spent a few mins in the living room drinking her wine, then i took her to my room and we ended up fucking all night.

Facebook convo and after lay text - http://imgur.com/a/OAjT9

Zach that's a stellar "wine tasting" convo you had. And this line.. "sweet.. what time should i hide away all my valuable stuff so it doesn't get stolen?"

That tells me that you're DONE. You have no reason anymore to doubt your own texting abilities. You're graduated. Kick your ass out of the nest holmes

I was half kidding. I've met up with girls like that too. Really brief interactions, then messages on fb.

Just never phrased it as a wine tasting. It's usually "bring a bottle of wine I'll make some food".

keep us updated, interested to see where this goes 

Yup, stealing that valuable stuff line.

good shit!

Thanks dude! hearing I'm doing ok from one of the greatest players on the planet (at least in my opinion) felt exstatic :)

To be honest before I joined your forum and started learning from your examples and advice, my texting was very bland and needy... I'd say things like "hey it was nice meeting you.. drinks friday night?" or some times a bit more creative like "how was your weekend?" hoping to get a warm response and the whole time girls knew exactly why i was texting them and i didn't realise this was making me seem needy. This obviosly wasn't working unless I did a ridiculously good job of hooking before getting the number so I thought to myself everyone's raving on about Julien's drama so lets try to get the girl to react to some crazy shit over texts and my half arsed attempts at drama did seem to get their attention which faded off as quickly as it built.

But then I stumbled across your example convo http://manwhore.org/forum/text-game and something clicked in my head, I realised that unless I'm self amused and free from outcome even over texts and unless I can establish that I'm the man in the conversation, i'll come across as every other chode that texts them. I mean girls phones are just going off all the time and it's dudes saying the same shit wanting to meet up, needing closure from the girl to validate their manhood.

So a few weeks ago I started to think on the lines of "What would manwhore do?" now I might not be doing justice to what you would do coz I don't have 5% of the reference experiences you have, but it did make me come up with this strategy:

1. Try to make the deets exchange as natural and as solid as possible and keep it short if you can

2. During the initial interaction seed inside jokes / memes (like telling her I'm a pimp or calling her a hipster or whatever the fuck comes to mind), this allows you to initiate texting from a place of self amusement and personalise the convo.

3. During the text-convo I find that if you use these meems / inside jokes, girls feel the need to one-up you and show their wittier & smarter. You can leverage this to frame and reframe the fuck out of the convo and hopefully you can make the chick think it's her idea to meet up with you in the first place

4. Try and stay away from the whole date frame as much as you can and assume she's meeting you at yours but also be as subtle as possible in suggesting it if you havent had a chance to build comfort face to face first. Only go on a date as a last resort if she doesn't seem to be falling into the frame.

5. Try and get her to bring you shit when she's coming over I've had chicks bring me cookies, wine and chocolate so far. Financial investment on her part is always good.

I've only started doing this less than a month ago and I've already slayed 3 birds in the last month, a 22yo german chick (number from a club), a 26yo aussie chick (daygame) and a 24yo british girl (number from a club).. Got 8 in the pipeline, all super responsive.

I feel like I'm only starting to scratch the surface of manwhore game and hopefully will continue to improve and learn ;)

That's a super excellent write-up my man. It made me realize I have to accentuate a couple more areas when teaching text game as a "curriculum". Good shit

And yes you are right I am one of the greatest players on the planet. Cheerio

This one wasnt falling into the frame, was a bit forced. She had to spend 2hrs on public transport to get here gave a bit of LMR, she pulled the old period excuse on me, got a blowjob.. 

http://imgur.com/IVdLWPX

http://imgur.com/ry010rb

http://imgur.com/eUqm4k6

Number from OkCupid

How do you get around the period excuse? any ideas?

Zach do you have an android phone? If you do just use the MW app #1 to upload the convo to the forum. 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.manwhore.displayer&hl=en

^^ Sweet.. got the app :)

So the wine-tasting convo progressed today, I didn't try to get her over on the weekend coz I've got a wisdom tooth impacting (ouch!).. So had to pick this up today to try and organise a meetup. Now I can't tell if her apparent compliance is her being sarcastic or if the boss-daddy transition actually worked. She's a strong 7 but seems quite shy, should I frame it as meeting up at mine (which would be ideal) or should D2 it and try and get her to invest and hook harder? Having trouble gauging her buying temperature :/

-- last week --

me: Hello hipster with green pants (smiley)
her: I´m not a hipster! (shock-face)
me: Or you just don't wanna admit it? don't worry, Melbourne is full of hipsters, you'll fit in (wink) haha
her: Oh no It wasn't my intention to let people think I´m part of this ´fashion movement`
me: hmm so you're trying to fool us innocent Australians?
her: Absolutely! (big-smile)
me: Hmm so what you're really saying is that you're a german spy?
her: oops, my camouflage (??) is uncovered!
me: So you're here to steal our national secrets? (angry face) like where the best bars are and what the best Australian wine is? (smiley)
her: Yes! (big-smiley) So that I can tell everybody in Germany. Then they can come and fill up the mass of german travellers!
me: lol.. since it will boost tourism for our country.. i'll help you with that.. but I'm busy until Friday.. when are you free?
her: Not that bad (wink).. No, just kidding (tongue) I have to work the weekdays, too. I´m always free at weekends.
me: (wink) .. i'll message you over the weekend depending on what my plans are and we'll figure something out
her: That sounds good! (smiley)

-- Today --

me: so how was your first weekend in Melbourne?
her: Hi How are you?
My weekend was a little exciting because I've driven the car for the first time. Left hand side is completely different to right hand drive in Germany. But it was better than I've expected before And of course it was relaxing with two days off. I spent a lot of time in the sun (little sunburn on my nose :D) while reading - two books (German ones; shame on me! )
me: Good work pumpkin.. lemme guess, the car you drove was an Aston Martin, like a James Bond girl? And ofcourse you're reading those german books because they're of full secret messages about your mission in Australia? hmmm
her: Ah, not. Unfortunately, I am not a James Bond girl. So...I drive the family car: a KIA monstrum of a car with 8 seats in it. I feel like I am driving this safety car from the formula 1 No one can hurt us when we're sitting in it
You guy really have a persecution complex I only read this typical women's books about love and such a stuff
me: That's right I'm all about conspiracy theories and how the government is trying to hide an upcoming alien invasion
her: Sure... You're absolutely looking like such a paranoiac
me: haha I was kidding girl.. I know you're not a spy, or an alien... you look too innocent to be anything other than a sweet german tourist
her: Hey! I'm not a tourist
I am going to LIVE here as a official citizen of Melbourne for 8 months
me: hmm so you ARE a spy?
hahahah
lol
her: No. You don't want to understand me, do you?
me: It's pretty hard understanding women, Sigmund Freud gave up on this.. maybe over a glass of wine I'll have a shot at figuring you out.. btw i know i was meant to message you over the weekend but got distracted!
her: No, it's not...most of the time. The missing patience of some people is the main point.
Don't rack your brains over this I've skyped with my family and had a lot of time to settle in my new home
me: Hmm boys are naturally impatient, can't help .. and yeh i've had a lot of time to recover from the hangover.. still living in st kilda?
her: Part of the Creation, lucky one
Oha, hangover - Ié never had some in my whole life (okay, I admit that my life is not that long so far but...)!
Yes, from last week until September
me: never had a hangover in your life? liar
her: Never. I promise
me: you must be special.. hahah
her: Let me think about it... No Not more special than other girls
me: lol except that you never get hangovers.. what's your favourite drink by the way? maybe that has something to do with the no-hangover puzzle
her: Red Tiger! Super good - but I know when to stop
me: what's a red tiger?
her: It´s Energy drink with red wodka
me: interesting, but it cant be better than a black velvet.. especially if you're a dude
her: Black velvet...Isn´t it with Guinness beer? I think THIS can´t be better than my drink. I´m not that into beer... Even we have a lot of different good beers in Germany
me: hmm let's find out.. black velvet v/s red tiger at a cocktail bar on chapel street.. if you're free wednesday night?
her: No, I have to work until 7pm and I´m not allowed to drink alcohol on weekdays because I have to pick up the kids and I got a curfew...
me: didn't know you had kids
her: My hostfamily has got 4 kids not me.
I´m working here in St. Kilda as an au pair
me: can i call you nanny? haha
her: Please not (tongue)
But if it makes you happy...
me: it is actually kind of amusing .. so nan, i usually don't give up my weekends for anyone but if you promise to be a good nanny, i'll take time out on friday night
her: you only have to ask my kids to know that I´m a good nanny
so, you spend every weekend with yourself?
me: haha nooooo! I usually go out with friends on weekends, promote for some clubs in the city.. but prefer having a quiet one sometimes .. and you?
her: I like to spend my weekends with my girls. Going dancing or in a good restaurant, cooking for ourselves, watching DVDs... Often a busy weekend but sometimes a quite one only with my sister and her boyfriend, for examle. But here it is different. I don´t know that much people yet.
me: but you do know the coolest dude in st. kilda
her: well, I will see
me: just try not to fall in love.. I don't like breaking hearts
her: I promise (tongue)
You are super self-confident!
me: so are you
her: I just try to pretend it
me: I don't think you pretend, you come across as a naturally confident girl
Keep friday night free (wink)
her: Yeah, because writing is way easier than speaking. Wasn´t my favourite thing in school That´s because I´m here now.
Yes, I will (wink)
me: Don't underestimate yourself nann, you're pretty awsome that's why I'm talking to you (wink).. i'll message you during the week once I decide on what we can do on friday
her: Thanks
Have a nice (obviously hot; considering weather) week until then See ya and good night.
me: gute nacht (wink)
her: You can talk German? (shock-face) Positive surprised!
me: I'm full of surprises (wink) now go to bed! lol see you soon nannz
her: Yes Sir ^^