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Met her yesterday on the street. Brief info about her; She looks quite stylish so I made jokes about it saying "well you look almost as stylish as I am" etch. Also she came back from Barcelona so she got a bit of tan. As you know latvian people can speak russian so I talked to her a bit of russian as well (I am not russian but I can speak a bit). Got her number then the next day;

Me: Privet missy!!! Uhmmm just trying to practice some russian ;) hkmt

No response

What do you suggest? How can I reengage? Im thinking;

Me: Ahhhh losing my tan as well. Lets crash down to a sun bedding shop, have sun bed session till morning, get an awesome tan and tell people that this is our original skin colour. Yes we can do it...

thoughts??
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@hkmt:

Nah. Try going back to the basics of playful and accusatory. You should show us examples of when your texting has actually hooked and then look through those messages and see what you are doing right and what you are doing wrong.

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Oh and also the initial interaction could have an effect on your conversations. Like sometimes I send two girls the same message (exactly the same) and with one it works perfectly and with the other it don't. So I try a different one on two girls (one girl who I havent tried and the other that didnt reply) then it usually works for the one I haven't tried on.

So really no matter how good I text she likely won't reply. But don't use this as an excuse when your texting sucks. So with girls like that for self amusement and also to save time/get rid of them I just insult them with something like "Fuck you im done with you. delete my number and dont ever text me again" (that didn't get a reply either though lmao, might have sounded butthurt but they are lost causes anyway)
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@hkmt: yo so ive read a lot of your threads and i think ive told you this before on a diff thread, but i think you should reevaluate your in person game. A lot of these texts dont even get off the ground so its really difficult to constructively critique your texts. I dunno where youre at as we obviously dont chill irl, but i would recommend writing the entire interaction out for these sets, so the rest of the forum could dissect your texts better. The same text can be interpreted much differently depending on the person.

Edit: didnt realize sick-cunt pretty much highlighted a lot of my points lol
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@Aequitas:

Yeah, i've said this before as well man, i go through the same shit as you hkmt and at times don't get replies after what seems a 'solid' interaction, but you need to make sure she KNOWS you're meeting up again and there's gotta be some 'me-you' communication going on so there's no funny business. It's pretty random with chicks knowing who's gonna text back or not so i dunno, work on your initial interaction i'd say.
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fuck dude. texting is a tough shit. Well with this girl I was walking back home after work and saw her coming towards me stopped her we talked a bit. Then her friends walked by us she started chatting with them and even introduced me to them. I was very chill, knew that the girl would get rid of them. Then those chores left we carried on chatting. Apparently she was looking for a flat to move. I told her that I wasn't happy with the area and offered her to take over my contract. She is latvian so she speaks russian, I showed her a bit of my russian skills (good practice for me as well). Then she told me that she finds me arrogant in a playful way I was like well I called you stylish a minute ago and now I am the arrogant one. Really?? Also I am just being playful girl you should understand the difference between being arrogant and being playful (those sentences were all said in a funny was. while I was talking we were both cracking up) Anyway at the end I told her that she looks cool enough I guess I have no chance but to invite her for a coffee. She was like "So did I pass the first stage?" I was like " Yeah you are acceptable" lol.

After this today;

Me: Let me guess. You went to a pub yesterday, watched the football, got drunk and I bet you are still sleeping!! :)
her: Im not I'm already working since 9
Me: You probably do PR...Uhmmm actually you could be a good sales person possibly in male fragrance dept...

No response. I believe I had a good game plan actually. I am kinda addicted to perfumes/ aftershaves etc and a person's smell is really important to me. If she responded that text I was gonna seed some meetings by saying I am gonna buy an aftershave but couldnt decide. A female opinion would be much appreciated (something like that) but for some reason didn't work again...

Every week I meet with 2-3 new girls. If my text game develops a bit, if I could get a bit of response (in the last 3 months I have banged 8 girls , and only 1 hooked out of texting. Rest is just one night stands) my results will go bonkers... any suggestions?
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@hkmt: uh, just be chill then. You gotta start crawling before you can get to running. Just start off with some normal chill texts and see how that turns out. Dial up the wittiness over time once you get a feel for it.
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@hkmt: uh, just be chill then. You gotta start crawling before you can get to running. Just start off with some normal chill texts and see how that turns out. Dial up the wittiness over time once you get a feel for it.


Yea what he said. Your texts must be making you sound like a completely different person. If you've already banged a girl, then you need to keep that consistency going. All of my one night stands (minus one because she was on vacation from vermont) have turned into multiple fucks because well my text game I keep consistent with who I am in person. I don't go over the top on my texts. It's tempting to send funny, witty texts, but if it's not consistent with the guy she met and slept with, it might scare her away. Be the person that you were when you met and hooked up. Consistency is key here.

Also I think some girls suck at texting so if she's not witty or sarcastic, she won't know how to reply. It's really fucking annoying when you encounter these girls and it's probably best to keep things simple and non-insulting and just get her out with you. I like manwhore's reports because he starts things simple to basically gauge the situation and then flow from there. Find out when she's free this week and plan the date.
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@Jeff:
dude it is not the case. First of all unless she is a perfect 10 I wouldn't even bang her for the second time. I can go and meet new chicks, don't need to waste time. I always prefer new pussies. Once its fucked its done, move on...Secondly I am talking about turning new numbers into day 2s not turning the ones that I have fucked into fuckbuddies.... Read the topic carefully...
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@hkmt:

HKMT do you always have girls not replying to you? Or is it just once in a while?
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This is you:

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@Manwhore:

holy shit that's a hilarious video.
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@hkmt: soooooo how many 10s have you banged?
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@buddhagames:

Yea movies with Denzel Washington in it are always funny / good. You must have seen it already though, that was like "the" pickup movie.
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Hahahahaha i hope to god that was on purpose
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@Sick-Cunt:
Unfortunately no matter how good the interaction is i rarely get responses. This is frustrating because texting is a completely different concept and takes long time to improve. İ feel like im missing some key points which might click in time. Also im 100% sure that if i can sort this shit out i can get laid a ton as it is very easy for me to meet girls
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Agree with buddha. it was on purpose right?? Lol
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@hkmt:

hmmm, you could totally be right man...

But I would def. reflect on your sets and think to yourself if they REALLY were as good as you think they were. Like just be as honest as you can with yourslef and ask yourself the tough questions...

If they are NEVER responding... just doesn't seem to make sense, ya know?

Maybe you should just try texting them things like, "what's up, beb" just to see if you can get a response with something a little more casual
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@buddhagames:
Yeah dude these sets are the ones where i had awesome interaction with some hardcore eye contact. It also happens to me where girls clearly give their numbers to get rid of me. It is so obvious that i dont even open threat for these ones. Im very frustrated with my texting. I dont think they are that much horrible though but cant get any response. Like the convo above she says she is working, at this point to me i didnt kill the convo by asking questions. Instead i made an assumption and add a random playful think by saying she could be a good male fragnence seller. Why?? Because often times fragnence sellers are quite hot chicks and once they advice no matter how it smells we are tempted to buy. I was expecting her to ask me huh male fragnence why?? So that i can be playful and seed some meeting. But i couldnt even get a response. Do u think my strategy is that bad?? It comes to a point like i am gonna start texting girls old chody hello how are u texts....
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@hkmt:

Okay, I guess I'll just be SUPER honest wth you. I think that me and a few other guys on here just think you come across very weird. Not sure what it is man, but like if even just some random dudes on the internet are thinking you come across weird, Idk what girls are thinking. I'm not trying to be a dick and hell, people on here may think I'm a fucking crazy weirdo, but sometimes it takes just being hit with the truth to shake people up.

I am only saying this becuase I think you need to reevaluate what you're doing in the game. The goal of this is to be as normal as possible while also simaltaneously being the most awesome guy she's met... it's almost like you just don't know what normal is... so you try to be awesome but it's just like really miscalibrated.... idk man.

Like, a fragerance seller... yeah dude, that's kinda weird. Do you get why that is weird? Like, I guess it's stuff like that, like if you aren't understanding why that is kinda a weird text, I feel like there is something fundamentally off about the way you approach social interactions. Like these are REAL people you are talking to. THey are REAL people with REAL emotions and REAL brains and REAL thoughts... you can't just tihnk of them as like some computer that is going to respond a certain way to some theory you have crafted.

Seriously though, I don't mean for this to come across dick, I guess I'm just trying to be as blunt as possible here. Like even the way you wrote out that thing about fucking, "10s"... that was weird dude... does that make sense?

I guess I just don't know you and so I just really don't know what level of social awareness you have. I'm really sorry if this is coming across super douchey. But then again, I think I'm giving you some good advice- you really need to start looking at reality with a new lens and maybe reconsidering what you're doing.

Like when you go out- do you ever just have like 40 minute+ sets where you hold a normal conversation with a girl and are just chill? Like, yeah, that's not you getting laid, but maybe that's what you should try and do at some point... just see if you can hold a long conversation with a girl through cold approach... that's a decent indicator of your "normalness"
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@buddhagames:

Yh, i'm with buddha kinda. Maybe it's coz of your language barrier why your communication with girls isn't so clear man, but that fragrance seller line was wack. No girl would logically understand why you said that, and this game isn't about 'logic' it's about emotions, and even then, a girl would not emotionally understand why you said that.

Follow buddha's advice on the 40 min, no outcome social sets. I need to do this more often myself.
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@buddhagames:
Much appreciated for the advice. I want you to clarify one thing; i read one of your recent posts where you were telling a girl to grap her water gun or something like that (the one you sent picture to her) and she was responsive and we consider it as a playful text. Whereas here i just made an assumption that a girl could be a fragnence seller. There are also texts where manwhore was advising people to text smthing like ahh these dvds are staring at me for a long time. Having considered these 3 texts i feel mine is the most normal/ realistic one. Dont misunderstand im not criticising you guys. Obviously manwhore is a legend and u are much better than me in terms of texting. I just try to find the missing point on my side. If u can explain me the difference it would be very helpful.
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@hkmt:

haha word, yeah, that totally makes sense. And I"m getting a much better sense of where you're coming from (it could TOTALLY be the language barrier) but you are just VERY VERY logical.

So, okay- the watergun text was really funny cause like, 1) The picture was just hilarious... like did you see it? Just some random kid with a fucking MASSSSIVEE watergun trying to look like a total badass, but like clearly not.

And 2) It was direct call-back humor from what we had previously talked about. She had made a point about all the pickup guys at the bar we were at and how they were there to make fun of them... so like instead of telling her to bring a legit fucking GAT downtown, I just made a JOKE out of it... it's funny.. mainly just cause of the picture lmao.. like if I hadn't put the picture in- it woulda been a pretty lame text, actually.

The "dvds staring at me"- is just a very common phrase in english- like yes, the dvds can't ACTUALLY stare at you, but it's just like a "saying" that we have here... like, if you really want a cookie but for wtvr reason can't have one but they are sitting on the counter right next to you, you may say, "Man those cookies have been staring at me for HOURS.. I just want one so badly!"

The difference is that- the perfume thing... lol, idk man, you just were like being way too logical... like it's not over the top enough.. I think the weird part is that it's like... wait.. are you serious? Cause it's not funny or over the top enough to be clearly meant as a joke... but then it's also like- if you're seirous... wtf?

But yeah, a lot of this could be explained by the language barrier, so fuck me.
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@buddhagames:
Now im confused lol. On the previous message u said my texts were weird now u are saying im too logical lmfao!!! Im confused :))
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@hkmt:

They are weird because you are too logical.

And not all of them are like this, man. Just some of them.

But what's more important- and what I was really trying to get at is for you to really consider your in-person sets. The texting is def. HUGE but it's MOST huge when you're getting solid numbers that are responding and you need to get that meetup/fuck
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@buddhagames:
So maybe i should think less about what to text, stop trying to predict what is gonna happen like; if i say fragnence she will ask why so i can seed the meetings and focus more on the interaction and text smthing about we talked so the text will be more congruent.. But i have 2 questions for u buddha

1) i always struggle about my first texts. As manwhore sAys hello how are u is against all kind of texting lessons. On the other hand often times i come up as a weirdo so what do you suggest for first texts?? Especially when i have a really short interaction i struggle to find something to text

2) once you recommended me tv shows to watch such as family guy american dad etc but i lost the list. Could u please write the ones which are good for sense of humour??
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@hkmt:

Well, for me, I mean I tend to text all my numbers, but if it's a SUPER short interaction... may just not be worth it. Just don't worry about it.

And YES YES YES- that's EXACTLY what you should be doing at this point. Don't try and plan these elaborate texting situations... just take your interaction and craft something cool.

The two you mentioned are solid. There's also southpark... all 3 of those will show you EXACTLY what "top of the line" american humor looks like... just totally random, out there but calibrated and hilarious.
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@ the comments about the video:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Will-Smith-Fan-Club/310281634993


@ hkmt

It would be great to see an infield video of you to we know if it is your interactions causing all these problems
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Well it would be hilarious to see myself infield but its kinda tough though. Who is gonna record it?? Do u wanna do it sick-cunt. Lol
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@hkmt:

Sure bro. Where do you live? Please say Canada
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The UK...

Yes, i read this forum too much.
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Fuck meee!!! I live in London England. I could have been famous with my awesome infield videos...
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@hkmt:

Whereabouts in the UK? I'm in London.
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@Gogo:

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@Gogo:
L O N D O N as well hahaa
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@hkmt:

There we go. It's a date. Gogo meet up with Hkmt [no pulling him home phaggot] and record his approaches
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lol

I'd be down for someone to do this for me in new york... just sayin.

Prob wouldn't post it- but it'd be real good for improving.

If anyone wants to do this- hit me up and I can do the same for you.
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@hkmt:

PM me bro.
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Yo Hkmt, Jeffy answered ur question in the evil stifler video. The one about financing, creativity and rape. Just incase u didnt see it yet
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@Sick-Cunt:

Gawd, that sounds like the best book title ever.

'Financing, creativity and rape by Evil Stifler'
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Fucking Stifler

Jeffy paid him $500 to do an rsd mastermind so I call him up wanting to do a podcast and he's like "what's up bro. Jeff paid me $500 for that shit." I'm like.. derp
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holy fuck 500 dollars for an hour of his time. not bad.
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@hkmt:

dude, it's easily understandable that you are trying to impress that chic. Don't overdo, girls would easily find it out. Just stick to the basics, try to impress the girl without the weapon of talking :)
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Why do you think that i was trying to impress dude?? To be honest i had no intention to impress her
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Pretty sure nickyrog is a comment posting robot from outerspace.
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@Manwhore:
When we met she was looking for a flat so i wanted to chit chat a bit and reengaged her;

Me: any luck with the house hunting missy??

İ sent this text yesterday no response yet. İm planning to give like a week break and reengage her as i dont wanna give the impression of a needy chode. How should i reengage her? A bit of info;

She is from lithuania, very stylish girl, looking for a flat and as i mentioned above she came from holiday so she has a bit of tan..
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@hkmt:

Is her name Dana by any chance?