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a little epiphany: My good looks have done nothing but hinder my results

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I've always been labeled as a "good looking kid", over the years I have been spoon fed bullshit..that getting pussy should be effortless for me. I've been going around thinking that my looks were my value, that I didn't need a to run effective game because my looks had my back.

We've all met that hot chick who is boring as fuck. So boring that her looks no longer made her attractive. Unfortunately, for quite some time I've been the male equivalent.

Can anyone relate to this?

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I'm coming from a different

I'm coming from a different place than you because when I was your age no one told me that I was handsome except my mother and female relatives.  Now I'm tallish, have muscles, and great hair.  All the total package does is invite approaches from girls.  Last night a girl walked right up to me and asked if she could run her hands through my hair.  I said ok and she did, but I wasn't particularly interested, so 2 mins later we weren't talking.  She was cute, but I wasn't feeling her. 

Its the body language that gets them.  I used to hang out with a guy who is 6'4" with model looks but he was such tool that he only "got lucky" with girls who sought him out and were DTF.  Underneath all of that he was an insecure little boy and the girls knew.  

Now I'm a man who is aware of his value and they can feel it.  I am so much more attractive now than I was 10 years ago and its all because of my self-image and how I carry myself.  I don't think about stuff like state or momentum,  but when I feel it she can feel it.  I understand the natural order of things. 

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You are spot on about your

You are spot on about your friend. Having the looks only invites the girls in, and sometimes help get guys get "lucky". I've always have had great early game, I can get numbers easily and banter with the chicks, it's my mid game and closing game that is awful.

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so you're not leading or

so you're not leading or escalating?

Meow wrote:
You are spot on about your friend. Having the looks only invites the girls in, and sometimes help get guys get "lucky". I've always have had great early game, I can get numbers easily and banter with the chicks, it's my mid game and closing game that is awful.

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Archangel wrote:so you're not

Archangel wrote:
so you're not leading or escalating?

Meow wrote:
You are spot on about your friend. Having the looks only invites the girls in, and sometimes help get guys get "lucky". I've always have had great early game, I can get numbers easily and banter with the chicks, it's my mid game and closing game that is awful.

Both.. and it's not that I'm NOT leading and escalating, I'm trying to improve everyday, I'm just not good at it. I suck at mid-game/closing- game because I've gone through years of poor conditioning. Sure I'd get the hookup every once and a while due to my good looks, but these situations required no leading or escalation, it would be the girl coming onto me. I never really understood my role until recently.

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Your looks have nothing to do

Your looks have nothing to do with it.

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Yeah, this is horseshit. It's

Yeah, this is horseshit. It's all about how you carry yourself.  

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Explain guys... I don't

Explain guys... I don't really see where your coming from. The point I'm trying to make is that looks have nothing to do with pulling chicks. Are you deeming this correct?or implying that my own personal insight is wrong?

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Oh cool.  So what

Oh cool.  So what specifically are you doing to improve your mid-game now that you know you need to put in the work just like everyone else?

Meow wrote:
Explain guys... I don't really see where your coming from. The point I'm trying to make is that looks have nothing to do with pulling chicks. Are you deeming this correct?or implying that my own personal insight is wrong?

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-One thing I'm really working

-One thing I'm really working on is bestowing value on others. I used to seriously fear giving chicks too much value,  which made me come across as a serious asshole. So I guess the causual compliment, calling her sexy and what not is okay as long as it comes from a place of power, not insecurity.

-I'm also calibrating my game to be more intimate in nature. I've realized lately that I've never made a good effort to get to know girls on a deeper level. I know some people claim that going into a place of comfort can kill attraction, but I feel like this is something a girl enjoys. I used to be in "banter" mode 24/7, I'm trying to incorporate a bit more of depth into my interactions. This has been making things more fun for me as well.

-I've also been initiating the meet up more often. I used to wait until a chick either invited me somewhere, or hinted that she wanted to chill. This goes along with showing others more value. The funny thing is I never realized how "beta" it truly was to chill back and wait for her to initiate a meet up, she needs leadership!

-My most important area of improvement is practising push and pull. I used to be pretty much push 24/7, but when I finally fell for a girl I'd be all pull. This was such a bad habit, because I'd go from badass to pussy overnight. This really throws chicks off. 

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-One thing I'm really working

-One thing I'm really working on is bestowing value on others. I used to seriously fear giving chicks too much value,  which made me come across as a serious asshole. So I guess the causual compliment, calling her sexy and what not is okay as long as it comes from a place of power, not insecurity.

-I'm also calibrating my game to be more intimate in nature. I've realized lately that I've never made a good effort to get to know girls on a deeper level. I know some people claim that going into a place of comfort can kill attraction, but I feel like this is something a girl enjoys. I used to be in "banter" mode 24/7, I'm trying to incorporate a bit more of depth into my interactions. This has been making things more fun for me as well.

-I've also been initiating the meet up more often. I used to wait until a chick either invited me somewhere, or hinted that she wanted to chill. This goes along with showing others more value. The funny thing is I never realized how "beta" it truly was to chill back and wait for her to initiate a meet up, she needs leadership!

-My most important area of improvement is practising push and pull. I used to be pretty much push 24/7, but when I finally fell for a girl I'd be all pull. This was such a bad habit, because I'd go from badass to pussy overnight. This really throws chicks off. 

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nice

nice

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Yes just be "real" with

Yes just be "real" with girls. Game does not exist on some magical verbal level.. it just mixes in with the casual conversations you have with people and girls. 

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