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long story short couple nights ago i felt like a solid W after going through some nonsense. hit up a grad school related function at a club and i'm feeling money. not too tipsy, good vibes, fun is had. i'm having a good time, just kinda bringing in girls who i've hooked up w/before or am interested and just letting them go - letting things breathe. I don't even give a shit if I hook up tonight - strictly looking for fun. In comes a chick from my program who I thought was interested but honestly i'm pretty sure she just likes my attention because I'm popular + cool. She had dissed me before by hooking up with some dude in a way that just shit on me, which is fine, but she no longer gets the same amount of attention anymore since quite frankly, she's no longer on the radar. Anyway, she physically grabs me and tries to harass me again with her usual "why are you ignoring me?" talks. She's fucking up the good times. She had me on the hook long enough and I just don't play second fiddle to anybody. "See ya". 

Grab this cute lil asian in a sexy dress, all up in each other's faces - again pops this girl trying to grab my attention. At this point I just smirk and laugh at how silly this is - physically grab the on the hook girl by the hips, move her to the side, back turn, and proceed to dance with asian girl. You had your chance; not playing this bullshit. Eventually grab asian girl and move her to a couch - make out, etc. Screen for logistics - no good. Probably could have stuck it out but I was fine with letting it go.

Run into a girl I had been working on - she's dope as fuck. Eventually we're in our bubble of love and making out - spend the rest of the night w/her. I had taken an uber home w/her before since we live next to each other and tried to invite her up before, but she declined lol. So this time she agrees but has to say bye to the friends - should've been proactive about getting her friends to like me, when she comes back she's all pissy and sternly says "I'm not going home with you!" and storms outside. Play it cool, kinda weasel my way into her periphery circle in order to seed after party, figuring she'll be there + give me a chance to win friends over. Win over my periphery group, hit after party, dude lost his keys. Party starts to fall apart, push for my place, her friends are gone, it's only my group standing. At this point she's smitten and lovely again and just bring a small get together over until the rest leave because it's getting late. Bring her into my room and the rest is over.

Didn't really have to all that fancy manuevering had i just preemptively addressed the friends. Made things take an extra 2 hours unnecessarily. Oh well. Feeling right that I still did my thing inspiteof some girl intentionally trying to fuck my shit up. 

Edit: Actually very curious as to how you would handle girls who most likely are trying to sabotage your game by providing false hope in order to grab your attention. Haven't really dealt with this often - just kinda reacted reflexively. 

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I wouldn't even call it

I wouldn't even call it "false hope".

This girl is a validation junkie from the sounds of it. Girls love that shit, but so do guys. 

She probably was diggin' how you were becoming a fucking boss and it's attractive to her. What's harder for her to handle is the fact that you don't chase her around like a puppy or anything for her validation. I know that girls I used to chase are all like "WTF" now that I am who I am and stopped chasing and shit. It drives them nuts to know that the validation they once effortlessly received is now something they have to work for.

What I would do - I would game the fuck out of her. She likes that vibe you got so use it. I would be very distant and hold back with the validation. I would get her working for it. I would get her to invest, chase and qualify until I know it's on. Little by little I'd validate her but also I'd pull back until I could isolate. Then bam. Fuck her right in the pussy.

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AP_Grappler wrote: I wouldn't

AP_Grappler wrote:
I wouldn't even call it "false hope".

This girl is a validation junkie from the sounds of it. Girls love that shit, but so do guys. 

She probably was diggin' how you were becoming a fucking boss and it's attractive to her. What's harder for her to handle is the fact that you don't chase her around like a puppy or anything for her validation. I know that girls I used to chase are all like "WTF" now that I am who I am and stopped chasing and shit. It drives them nuts to know that the validation they once effortlessly received is now something they have to work for.

What I would do - I would game the fuck out of her. She likes that vibe you got so use it. I would be very distant and hold back with the validation. I would get her working for it. I would get her to invest, chase and qualify until I know it's on. Little by little I'd validate her but also I'd pull back until I could isolate. Then bam. Fuck her right in the pussy.

Lol "fuck her right in the pussy." 

Interesting. She's drawn a line that we are friends, though. Vocalizing shit like "I'm glad you realize that we're only friends." ; granted she would be saying this while she had a BF and he was around, but out of earshot. Like we met while she had a BF but we'd always flirt and he fully knew I was trying to bang his girl the whole time lol. The jumps I've made in myself, both mental shifts and physical shifts mainly occurred prior to her and I meeting so it's not like I went from being a fat kid to a stud throughout our friendship. She's always vocalized that she thinks I'm a player since day 1 and has always said shit that was just NOT OK for a girl to say/ask in front of her man. I would feel bad cuz you could see homie squirming. Pretty shitty to say, but honestly that's how it was perceived between him and I since he clearly also had the same reactions. 

This is really something I've never dealt with successfully and I'm not actually sure I'm equipped with the skillset to pull this off. Like what does "get her working for it" mean? I take that to mean oscillating between giving her some attention then leveraging other cute girls to inspire jealousy and action out of her. It's a very problematic scenario now because she's seeing some dude in our program and the community is pretty small. Coupled with the read I get that she prefers safe bet guys who she thinks won't be likekly to burn her. I have an established manwhore reputation so that doesn't help my cause in that sense.

I mean the only thing I haven't really done is shown genuine vulnerability, primarily because it always seems like timing has been off. 

I think I'll shift her from essentially not even being on the radar AT ALL to giving her SOME attention in between doing my thing at functions. Saw her a couple hours ago and I had a shit eating grin on my face when I said hi to her and she was somewhat cold. 

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The only reason she is saying

The only reason she is saying "just friends" in my mind, is because she wants you to blow through that bullshit.. and fuck her. She's just checkin' the size of your cojones. This is the way I interpret that shit.. there is no friend zone. There is just "Man up and fuck me or orbit like every other chode."

It's just a giant shit-test. It's always a giant shit-test. Unless it's stern as fuck.. then stop lol.

Basically, you're going to want to continue doing what you're doing. She's not going to get all the attention, if any I'd say bare minimum. Reason being, girls want to go to where the party is, always. They want to have fun. If this chick see's you being the center of attention around a lot of your guys' connected social circle at an event. She's going to want in, they always want in. Game all girls, man. Have fun. Make sure you genuinely have fun though, otherwise there is honestly no point lol. When she bites, you hit her with something that'll hook her, and push and pull a little. Tease her, man. Then carry on. Come back to her some time later for a little more. Then rinse and repeat until she invests more into you (questions, tasks, does favors). Start qualifying her (you should know this). Then validate a bit. Small rewards for small deeds. Let it build, use tension. Then when you have an opportunity and you've got her to invest in you heavily (questions, doing tasks for you, qualifying herself "I'm actually really fun haha", etc.) isolate and fuck. 

There are things to watch out for like if her bf is around, logistics, social setting, etc. So handle that shit obviously but this is how I'd do it in terms of game. Remember, you're the fucking man. MW taught me that shit when I first started and had trouble with a chick that was similar to yours, I obviously didn't listen, which is why it took me so long to get to where I'm at right now. Shit's money. If you want it, go get it, bro.

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AP_Grappler wrote:The only

AP_Grappler wrote:
The only reason she is saying "just friends" in my mind, is because she wants you to blow through that bullshit.. and fuck her. She's just checkin' the size of your cojones. This is the way I interpret that shit.. there is no friend zone. There is just "Man up and fuck me or orbit like every other chode."

It's just a giant shit-test. It's always a giant shit-test. Unless it's stern as fuck.. then stop lol.

Basically, you're going to want to continue doing what you're doing. She's not going to get all the attention, if any I'd say bare minimum. Reason being, girls want to go to where the party is, always. They want to have fun. If this chick see's you being the center of attention around a lot of your guys' connected social circle at an event. She's going to want in, they always want in. Game all girls, man. Have fun. Make sure you genuinely have fun though, otherwise there is honestly no point lol. When she bites, you hit her with something that'll hook her, and push and pull a little. Tease her, man. Then carry on. Come back to her some time later for a little more. Then rinse and repeat until she invests more into you (questions, tasks, does favors). Start qualifying her (you should know this). Then validate a bit. Small rewards for small deeds. Let it build, use tension. Then when you have an opportunity and you've got her to invest in you heavily (questions, doing tasks for you, qualifying herself "I'm actually really fun haha", etc.) isolate and fuck. 

There are things to watch out for like if her bf is around, logistics, social setting, etc. So handle that shit obviously but this is how I'd do it in terms of game. Remember, you're the fucking man. MW taught me that shit when I first started and had trouble with a chick that was similar to yours, I obviously didn't listen, which is why it took me so long to get to where I'm at right now. Shit's money. If you want it, go get it, bro.

I mean I've gotten a MIX of things. From soft no's, stern no's, to her asking about what color my dick is, pinching my ass a couple times when I got bored of her and this girl was hitting me up in front of her, obviously shit i described above, etc you get the idea. Once I removed the attention she tried to shame me into giving her attention. i.e. dragging me to have a "talk" about why i was ignoring her, or publicly try to be like guys why's Aequitas ignoring me. I mean she was bitching about why I didn't invite her to my parties anymore lol. I don't think I've handled that shit well since my response has been to just look at her like she's batshit fucking crazy and just been like "what the fuck are you even talking about? Quit being weird, we're good. Do you." 

But anyway, yea, all of that makes hella sense. Not really expecting anything to come from this, but I think it's a good way to handle this on the contingency this develops into anything. 

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If you do decide to go for

If you do decide to go for it, I would do it that way.

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