Manwhore/Buddha, where did I lose this during Day2? Updated - Smaller blocks for reading
Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:42
So I number closed this girl from college campus daygame. She is doing PhD in plant biology and seems pretty smart. I approached her with, hey I like your sense of style and that her scarf is pretty legit.
After the opener, before I said anything, she introduced herself and took her sunglasses off. My eye contact was laser tight with her and I felt the attraction spikes. We chatted a little bit about during which I teased her and tried for an instant coffee date. She told me that she had to go for a meeting but she is free in the evenings usually. I took her number and told her that we will get drinks together. I immediately texted her to start the convo:
April 5, 1:26pm : Me = jj_sac
April 5, 1:43pm : Her = :)
April 5, 4:22pm : Me = how was your meeting
April 7, 6:21pm : Me = what are you upto? let me guess ....knitting a scarf for me. you are so sweet :)
April 12, 8:07am : Me = Just enjoyed coffee that must be made in heaven. Hope you are having a divine morning.
April12, 10:13am : Her = Meet 4 a drink 2 night
April12, 10:49am : Me = 9pm@cafe zouk
April12, 10:54am : Her = K
April 12, 8:54pm : Me = On my way
April 12 , 9:08pm : Her = In in the bar
Day2,CafeZouk
I went inside the bar and saw her ordering a drink. We looked at each other but instead of walking towards her I just stood there away from her and looked around a bit. Then we looked at each other again. This time, she smiled in a little surprise and walked towards me. I hugged her and told her that I was just fuking around with her. We both walked to the bar and she told me that she already ordered the drink. I was like in a teasing tone, Girl ! How can you do that to me? She was like well she came here earlier and that she just ordered. I ordered my drink, paid for both of drinks and we sat down on the table.
I had to sit across from her on the table because of cafe bullshit layout. Anyways, I did touch her a little bit through handshaking and hand games. She asked me what I do and other stuff. I told her about my work and life experiences. I was more doing a comfort talk with a mild tease. For example, she told me about how she vaccinates plants. I was like, Girl, for my treehouse, I am hiring you as a tree consultant.
She told me that she grew up in a small country town up north in Cali and that weed is a part of their lifestyle. I was like, Damn girl I can totally hire you as my pot agent lol. We talked about family, siblings etc. By this time, she has finished her drink and said she gonna get another one. I was like lets go to another place and order drinks there
So we went to BarX. We walked towards BarX arm in arm. When we were near BarX, I slowly moved down my arm to grab her hand. I tried this move while talking. But she moved her hands away from my hand. I smiled at her and continued talking about what I was saying earlier. In the back of mind, I realized, needs to build more comfort.
Day2BarX
We went inside BarX and she said she was going to order Beer. I said that I dont drink beer since I am on Paleo diet. Then she asked me what am i drinking then? I said, Jameson and coke. Instead of beer, she ordered vodka soda for herself. This time, she took her wallet out to pay but I said, hey I will buy this for us. You take care of next time. ( I guess wrong move on my side. should have let her pay).
This time I sat down right next to her and she was totally comfortable with that. These were high rise table to view the whole bar. I dragged the front chair towards me and put my legs on it. She also put her legs on the same chair which I dragged. So basically we are sitting down together and her body is tilted towards me.
I started talking about my passion of traveling and how I want to explore north of Cali and all the way to border. She started telling me about festivals, camping fishing etc around the place where she grew up. We shared some childhood stories. Then we started talking about derby racing, horses etc. While she were shooting the shit, a couple of my friends showed up, I introduced her to them. My female friend talked to her for a little bit and then they left. We again started talking about some random stuff. Meanwhile I started escalating and touching her more. I noticed that she was still a little hesitant and uncomfortable with a prolonged touch.
Day2-End
At this time, our drinks were done and I was ready to bounce her to final bar with a dance floor. However shit went down. So far we have been together for about one and a half hour. She checked her phone and told me that her female friend who broke up with a boyfriend today just texted her and her female friend has a kid too. She told me that she has to leave now. She said," I already confirmed to meet with you so I came out for you." She told her female friend earlier in day that she will meet her after drinks with me. I said, " All good, We should continue this and do it some other time." She was like yes we should hang out again.
In my mind, I am thinking that my plan is fuked now because she has to leave. Also, I was thinking, may be I fuked up the date and she just wants to leave and this is her excuse. Anyways, I walked her to her bicycle. While walking i wrapped my arms around her. She was totally fine with that. I told her that I like her because she is passionate about her goals and its make her attractive to me.
At this moment, she literally stopped and looked into my eyes. I held the eye-contact. I realized i had the window to make out but I didnt pull the trigger (fuk me). She told me that she like me too bcuz I am honest ( dont believe in what girls say, she might be lying). I told her that my next week is busy but i will contact her and set up some new plans. She was like Ok. I hugged her and gave her a kiss on the cheek. (Lame).
This was all on Friday, so i waited saturday and then called her on Sunday evening. Her phone was dead and it was going straight to voice mail so I left the following text:
April 14, 7:47pm : Me = You will never guess the craziest thing happened to me
So far she hasn't texted/called me back. I was planning to call her today in afternoon and if she doesnt pick up, leave her chill voice mail, " Hey, there is a this comedy show tonight I am going to. You are welcome to come with."
But I havent contacted her yet because I thought I better get some suggestions from you guys. I think I pretty much fuked up on day2 and this might be over. Is there still anyway I can recover it? More importantly, can you guys pinpoint my mistakes and tell me how to take care of this situation for recovery?
After the opener, before I said anything, she introduced herself and took her sunglasses off. My eye contact was laser tight with her and I felt the attraction spikes. We chatted a little bit about during which I teased her and tried for an instant coffee date. She told me that she had to go for a meeting but she is free in the evenings usually. I took her number and told her that we will get drinks together. I immediately texted her to start the convo:
April 5, 1:26pm : Me = jj_sac
April 5, 1:43pm : Her = :)
April 5, 4:22pm : Me = how was your meeting
April 7, 6:21pm : Me = what are you upto? let me guess ....knitting a scarf for me. you are so sweet :)
April 12, 8:07am : Me = Just enjoyed coffee that must be made in heaven. Hope you are having a divine morning.
April12, 10:13am : Her = Meet 4 a drink 2 night
April12, 10:49am : Me = 9pm@cafe zouk
April12, 10:54am : Her = K
April 12, 8:54pm : Me = On my way
April 12 , 9:08pm : Her = In in the bar
Day2,CafeZouk
I went inside the bar and saw her ordering a drink. We looked at each other but instead of walking towards her I just stood there away from her and looked around a bit. Then we looked at each other again. This time, she smiled in a little surprise and walked towards me. I hugged her and told her that I was just fuking around with her. We both walked to the bar and she told me that she already ordered the drink. I was like in a teasing tone, Girl ! How can you do that to me? She was like well she came here earlier and that she just ordered. I ordered my drink, paid for both of drinks and we sat down on the table.
I had to sit across from her on the table because of cafe bullshit layout. Anyways, I did touch her a little bit through handshaking and hand games. She asked me what I do and other stuff. I told her about my work and life experiences. I was more doing a comfort talk with a mild tease. For example, she told me about how she vaccinates plants. I was like, Girl, for my treehouse, I am hiring you as a tree consultant.
She told me that she grew up in a small country town up north in Cali and that weed is a part of their lifestyle. I was like, Damn girl I can totally hire you as my pot agent lol. We talked about family, siblings etc. By this time, she has finished her drink and said she gonna get another one. I was like lets go to another place and order drinks there
So we went to BarX. We walked towards BarX arm in arm. When we were near BarX, I slowly moved down my arm to grab her hand. I tried this move while talking. But she moved her hands away from my hand. I smiled at her and continued talking about what I was saying earlier. In the back of mind, I realized, needs to build more comfort.
Day2BarX
We went inside BarX and she said she was going to order Beer. I said that I dont drink beer since I am on Paleo diet. Then she asked me what am i drinking then? I said, Jameson and coke. Instead of beer, she ordered vodka soda for herself. This time, she took her wallet out to pay but I said, hey I will buy this for us. You take care of next time. ( I guess wrong move on my side. should have let her pay).
This time I sat down right next to her and she was totally comfortable with that. These were high rise table to view the whole bar. I dragged the front chair towards me and put my legs on it. She also put her legs on the same chair which I dragged. So basically we are sitting down together and her body is tilted towards me.
I started talking about my passion of traveling and how I want to explore north of Cali and all the way to border. She started telling me about festivals, camping fishing etc around the place where she grew up. We shared some childhood stories. Then we started talking about derby racing, horses etc. While she were shooting the shit, a couple of my friends showed up, I introduced her to them. My female friend talked to her for a little bit and then they left. We again started talking about some random stuff. Meanwhile I started escalating and touching her more. I noticed that she was still a little hesitant and uncomfortable with a prolonged touch.
Day2-End
At this time, our drinks were done and I was ready to bounce her to final bar with a dance floor. However shit went down. So far we have been together for about one and a half hour. She checked her phone and told me that her female friend who broke up with a boyfriend today just texted her and her female friend has a kid too. She told me that she has to leave now. She said," I already confirmed to meet with you so I came out for you." She told her female friend earlier in day that she will meet her after drinks with me. I said, " All good, We should continue this and do it some other time." She was like yes we should hang out again.
In my mind, I am thinking that my plan is fuked now because she has to leave. Also, I was thinking, may be I fuked up the date and she just wants to leave and this is her excuse. Anyways, I walked her to her bicycle. While walking i wrapped my arms around her. She was totally fine with that. I told her that I like her because she is passionate about her goals and its make her attractive to me.
At this moment, she literally stopped and looked into my eyes. I held the eye-contact. I realized i had the window to make out but I didnt pull the trigger (fuk me). She told me that she like me too bcuz I am honest ( dont believe in what girls say, she might be lying). I told her that my next week is busy but i will contact her and set up some new plans. She was like Ok. I hugged her and gave her a kiss on the cheek. (Lame).
This was all on Friday, so i waited saturday and then called her on Sunday evening. Her phone was dead and it was going straight to voice mail so I left the following text:
April 14, 7:47pm : Me = You will never guess the craziest thing happened to me
So far she hasn't texted/called me back. I was planning to call her today in afternoon and if she doesnt pick up, leave her chill voice mail, " Hey, there is a this comedy show tonight I am going to. You are welcome to come with."
But I havent contacted her yet because I thought I better get some suggestions from you guys. I think I pretty much fuked up on day2 and this might be over. Is there still anyway I can recover it? More importantly, can you guys pinpoint my mistakes and tell me how to take care of this situation for recovery?
Wed, 04/17/2013 - 19:36
#1
tl;dr
tl;dr
Wed, 04/17/2013 - 19:51
#2
rogan wrote:tl;dr
+1
rogan wrote:
tl;dr
+1
Wed, 04/17/2013 - 20:39
#3
I read about half of this
I read about half of this then scrolled all the way down and saw it was a HUGE wall of text. So I stopped
Wed, 04/17/2013 - 20:54
#4
Yep...way too long...let me
Yep...way too long...let me break it into smaller posts
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 02:45
#5
edited in first post
edited in first post
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 02:45
#6
edited - first post
edited - first post
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 02:46
#7
edited in top post
edited in top post
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 01:53
#8
Negative dude. What we meant
Negative dude. What we meant was within the same post, add some fucking PARAGRAPH BREAKS and line breaks.
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 02:48
#9
Alright I broke it down into
Alright I broke it down into smaller paragraphs and added line breaks.
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 04:25
#10
Ok first of all.. you said
Ok first of all.. you said "girl" way too much. Wowzers
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 04:29
#11
Ok it seems your verbal with
Ok it seems your verbal with her was pretty decent except for the "girl" part. What you needed to do was be more dynamic with the touching/grabbing while being accusatory with your verbal. That's pretty much one of my standard MO's for getting physical with a girl. From there kissing her is very simple. Because by that point you've escalated way past kissing it's almost just a formality by that point. Get it? You had the groundwork you just didn't mesh the two together. Overall I would say this was a pretty decent date, but you didn't escalate far enough and lots of girls won't give a guy a second chance. You could still make this work for sure, I would call and leave a simple smooth voicemail, don't tell her to call you back or anything, and replay it after you leave it, if it sucks, rerecord it and leave another one.
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 04:40
#12
Manwhore, Can you tell me
Manwhore, Can you tell me more about this? "more dynamic with the touching/grabbing while being accusatory with your verbal". An example would be great
Secondly about simple smooth voice mail. Do you have any particular voice message in mind here?
Would the following voice mail fit the bill?
"Hey, there is a this comedy show tonight I am going to. You are welcome to come with."
Secondly about simple smooth voice mail. Do you have any particular voice message in mind here?
Would the following voice mail fit the bill?
"Hey, there is a this comedy show tonight I am going to. You are welcome to come with."
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 04:55
#13
No that voicemail is
No that voicemail is completely the opposite of what you want. NOTHING to do with meeting up, simply talking about your day in a funny way, or describing something funny that happened. Then end it with talk to you later *click*
The physical/verbal escalation video I had you watch explains what I'm talking about.
The physical/verbal escalation video I had you watch explains what I'm talking about.
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 16:48
#14
Alright, I called her up this
Alright, I called her up this morning around 8:30sh. After 5-6 rings, it went to the voice mail. I think she cancelled my call and hence the voicemail came up early. Now here is the tricky part. The voice mail box was full and voice msgs cannot be recorded...shit...so I sent her the following text
April 18, 8:35 AM, Me = I think i just met the funniest homeless guy ever...gotta love this town
What do you guys think?....I was thinking if she doesn't call/text back by Sunday, I will leave a simple text of "u alive?". If that text doesnt get reply, I will drop her.
April 18, 8:35 AM, Me = I think i just met the funniest homeless guy ever...gotta love this town
What do you guys think?....I was thinking if she doesn't call/text back by Sunday, I will leave a simple text of "u alive?". If that text doesnt get reply, I will drop her.
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 16:54
#15
You should send her a text
idk man- I prob woulda dropped her by this point
Thu, 04/18/2013 - 20:47
#16
Dont call or text for a
Dont call or text for a couple of weeks now. Unless she texts you back.
What is this "u alive?"shit. That's never a good text its screaming for any little tidbit response, e.g. low value/needy. Just chill out and let her text if she wants to. Otherwise hit her up again in a couple weeks.
What is this "u alive?"shit. That's never a good text its screaming for any little tidbit response, e.g. low value/needy. Just chill out and let her text if she wants to. Otherwise hit her up again in a couple weeks.
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:47
#17
Yo manwhore, I didnt hear
Yo manwhore, I didnt hear from her so I am going to hit her up....What do you think of following text?
"It’s not completely gay that we haven’t talked in a couple of weeks, but it’s definitely pretty gay."
Again, this is just for learning, personally I dont care whatever happens.
"It’s not completely gay that we haven’t talked in a couple of weeks, but it’s definitely pretty gay."
Again, this is just for learning, personally I dont care whatever happens.
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 20:17
#18
haha that's actually kinda
haha that's actually kinda funny- it's slightly off though but I really like the idea...
It has the potential to be A+ but right now it's sitting at like a B/B+
It has the potential to be A+ but right now it's sitting at like a B/B+
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 20:42
#19
Sure send it.
Sure send it.
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 22:06
#20
Sent her....
@Buddha....how
Sent her....
@Buddha....how would you make it A+ ? lol
@Buddha....how would you make it A+ ? lol
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 22:09
#21
idk... that was more of an
idk... that was more of an intuitive thing- just felt a lil off but just send it it's not like super off... it'l def. get her to respond. It's good dude