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Hey guys,

since you gave me good avice on how to deal with this "crush" I've been having I thought I'd ask you for your thoughts on this deal:

Was approached by a girl collecting donations for refugees. I argued with almost everything she said etc. Eventually we started joking around, having fun. I played a couple little games with her (my phone number is xxxx 123 456 got that from Julien) etc. Anyways her little donation approach turns into quite a long convo plus some hanging out after. I get her FB without any resistance. Now I'm just in this to experiment etc. On her FB she has a pic of her with some Russian looking dude (not kissing, just faces really close together). I suspect that this could be her boyfriend as she is Eastern European as well. I don't want to fool with a woman who has a boyfriend (just not into that) so I'm wondering what the best course of action would be. 

My plan is: 

As soon as she adds me on FB start convo with fun stuff related to our conversation today. Then after a couple of messages try to get a meet up going (no formal date, maybe coffee or some activity). I'm not sure how to deal with that Russian dude (he looks so Russian I'm actually laughing right now, so stereotypical). Asking her whether she has a boyfriend is probably a bad idea right?

Thanks!

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Yep, perfect. If that's her

Yep, perfect. If that's her boyfriend, let her bring it up, don't make problems out of thin air.

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Thanks for the reply man. I

Thanks for the reply man. I think I might be in the process of fucking this up:

Me: Did you manage to get rid of all of your cherries or were you too scared to take them out

(Context: She had cherries with her that she would eat and gave me some but wasps showed up and she started to freak out)

Her: Why would I be scared?

Me: You freaked out when the wasps showed up 

Her: Ohh I see.. Well I was brave and ate them all. Did you like them?

Me: I don't know I threw them away straight away. 

Her: Oh really? Why is that. 

This is where I think I might be fucking up. I didn't eat them of course but my idea for this was that she would say "Oh why is that?" or something like that and then I can have a comeback such as "I'm allergic you could have killed me, girl" ( sounds lame, I know..) . 

I don't want to keep this banter going for too long cause I want to set up a date/meeting but I feel like I have to resolve this or she'll think I'm a weirdo for saying that. 

Any ideas? Sorry If I'm coming across as a newbie, I am but I don't want to fuck this up / at leats take it as far as possible so I can learn as much as possible from it. 

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Why are you even talking

Why are you even talking about eating wasps? It's not a good look 

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I checked out your rules.

I checked out your rules. Solid stuff. I played the allergy card (not cool but the best I could do to move on from this shit). Going to try to be a little "real" with her now so she doesn't see me as Mr. Clown. I have a couple of activities in mind (stuff where I can easily bail if it sucks). Will try to find out her schedule for this weekend and then go for it. I'll most likely fuck it up with her but I guess it's a learning experience. 

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If she says, "I have a

If she says, "I have a boyfriend."

You smile and say, "...Would you like another one?" (From Natural Tim)

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Till that happens, don't worry about him. I just had this hit home to me within the last couple of days. The guy I thought was muscling in on my girl was just a chodey. I gave him way more credit than he deserved. Probably the same with your guy.

Just from what I saw of your conversation, I'd say to tease her more. I don't know why you said you threw them away, but I'd recover with, "You probably licked them all before you gave them to me. like sucking the chocolate off the M&Ms and giving the almonds away. Gross."

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That's a good one. Although

That's a good one. Although in her case it might actually not be a lie (juding from that one pic I saw on her FB with Mr russian dude). If it turns out that she really does have a boyfriend I might just befriend her, maybe hit up her social circle. 

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Super your text would be

Super your text would be perfect with just the first sentence. 

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just text "forbidden fruit yo

just text "forbidden fruit yo you gonna make me a sinner"

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Gogo wrote: just text

Gogo wrote:
just text "forbidden fruit yo you gonna make me a sinner"

Too late unfortunatley. That would have been a great one also. I'm now being a bit more rational/logical with her (asking her how her work's going) cause I don't want to be Mr funny man all the time. Then I'll probably attempt to set up the date.  

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Don't worry so much about

Don't worry so much about being Mr. Funnyman/dancing monkey or being logical. You're a funny guy. Let it loose! Blast her with it. Obviously you want to be REAL though.

Pay more attention to how/if she's INVESTING herself in her conversation with you. If you see her investing for two or three texts,  drop what you're talking about, stop what you're doing and invite her for the meetup!

If she's sending ambivalent signals don't try it. You're first goal should be the investment.

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Her: Why would I be scared?

Her: Why would I be scared? No investment

Me: You freaked out when the wasps showed up Logical

Her: Ohh I see.. Well I was brave and ate them all. Did you like them? Maybe a tiny bit here.

Me: I don't know I threw them away straight away. Logical

Her: Oh really? Why is that. No investment

I'm working on my own text game right now trying to figure out how to pull my ass outa the fire with a girl. Basically looking at my own as well as the guys' who are successful at it, trying to break it down to a format that's easy for me (and you) to understand and follow. And what I have so far goes a bit like this:

You: [tease]
Her: [invest]
You: [tease]
Her: [invest]
You: [qualify] You seem like you're a X girl... are you X?
Her: [qualifies herself] Yeah I'm loads of X! <--as a note, if she doesn't qualify herself here don't go further.. start over and try a smaller qualification on her
You: [GO FOR THE KILLLL] Well since you're X, I'm going down to destroy karaoke night at X bar on X night. Come with.
(if she denies you)
You: [recover and tease. Start from step one.] Right on. I bet you sing like a seagull :)

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Being rational/logical with a

Being rational/logical with a girl is definitely not the way to go holmes. You want to keep the humor up. Take a look at my text game article it's one of the stickied threads. 

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Ok, got it. Keep the humour

Ok, got it. Keep the humour up. Now this is interesting: 

I go rational and ask her about how her job is going. She says ok and then immediately after:

Her: How's your <trashy TV station with crappy fake reality programmes> career going?

Now we joked about having 10 kids and becoming trash-tv stars extensively in the interation. I think she's inviting me to joke about that stuff. She wants the fun guy, right?

So I'm thinking about what to reply. Maybe something like:

Option 1: Don't tell anyone but I'm going to be the next Bachelor (our country's version of that show is on that crappy tv station). You should apply but you'd better have something good in store for our first date.

How does that sound? Too rational again? 

We also joked about having 10 kids to make it in trash tv so maybe I should play that angle instead:

Option 2: I'm ready you'd better get started having kids

Or is that too direct? I'm open to suggestions and as always cheers for helping a fella out!

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Now THERE she's investing in

Now THERE she's investing in your convo.

YES she want you to be fun with her. She's probably desperate for you to bring some fun into her life. She actually took the lead and got it started for you! You can't ask for much better than that!

Your first option I don't like much.

The second, "YOU better start having kids." implies to me that she could possibly be having these 10 kids with someone else ??? HMM. Say WE better get started making some babies. If you decide to go with that.

OR

Say your filming studio got invaded by angry wasps that stung and killed all the female actresses and the trash tv industry desperately needs her. hahahaha.

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Cheers for the reply mate. I

Cheers for the reply mate. I think the seond one is better as well (saying WE). I think the reason I was gravitating towards the first one is "being afraid of offending her by being too 'forward'". Stupid social conditioning. So do you think that once I hit her up with that line I can find out her schedule and set up the date? Or should I continue FB game first? 

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 text "tune in next monday to

 text "tune in next monday to see Chell on Teen Mom"

then text "yep. i got dark secrets..."

she'll probably laugh then be like "lmao what's yer schedule this week beb"

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We don't have that show here

We don't have that show here (un)fortunately. I think I'll go with the baby angle unless someone has a better idea.

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GoGo just gave you a pretty

GoGo just gave you a pretty solid thing to say. I think it's better than your baby option. See how she reacts and if good, hit her with the schedule question.

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Where's this "what's your

Where's this "what's your schedule like this week, beb" coming from? We need to kill it!

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Manwhore wrote: Where's this

Manwhore wrote:
Where's this "what's your schedule like this week, beb" coming from? We need to kill it!

Buddha lol

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Me: Tune in and find

Me: Tune in and find out. 

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Me: We gotta start working on those 10 kids though if we want to make it big :-)

She's seen those messages and it seems like the convo has gone cold. What gives? At this point it seems awkward to re-engage with the whole reality tv joke. But just asking her to meet me seems out of context. Any advice?

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Re-engage with a funny

Re-engage with a funny picture or e-card a couple of days later. 

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Don't make baby jokes with a

Don't make baby jokes with a girl that's started to ignore you.. get it? That's looking for rapport from someone that's not giving it therefore it's "trying for rapport". Call her up in a couple days and leave a vm. Just tell a quick story, sound smooth, do not ask her to call you back. 

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I don't have her phone number

I don't have her phone number unfortunately (stupid not to ask I know...). I'll hit her up on FB with a "story" in a couple days.