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She came over to "makeout and watch movies." She gets here we chill for a bit sitting on my bed, start making out and right away she starts giving me resistence. She'll remove my hand if it gets frisky, or "ahem's" and moves away if we start making out passionately. I finally lay her back but her hand is still up. She says im not having sex with you. Mw set me up for a slam dunk from his Lmr post, I look at her weird. "Pfff! IM not having sex with YOU"

this is line flips the table like none other an a second later she is grinding on my boner while making out. Her hands are removed from between us and is running around everywhere. A bit later she can't decide if she's tired or hungry. I say let's relax for a bit then grab food. I start molesting her when she wiggles her ass into the big spoon. I pulled he hips in tight,grabbed her nec and pulled her back. Start kissing her neck and she gets real turned on. I place her hand on my diack but then she comes to, flips out, backs up. We talk for a bit, but later same thing is going on, I slip a hand down her panties, she lunges her hand into my wrist. Pause. I pull both our hands down further and rest my hand on her vag. It felt nice. Paused again... Then yanks my hand out of her pants, moves away and just keeps repeating we can't we cant. I just met you, etc. I qualify her a bit between kisses as tell we how terrible it would be if two young attractive people who like each other hooked up, while kissin her neck.

things get heavy here and she explodes again. Cool... So nap time, I pull back. At this point I barely want sex, being half sick and it being late. I lay beside her about to pass out. When she turned I spooned her and passed out. She wakes up, jumps outta bed before I'm awake. It's late, she's gotta go. which is true.

where did I screw up here? Is this a case of not dominating her mind and body enough before hand?  Aka a failure of my game or is stuff like this in the last minute details. 

I fucked up the first date, wasn't that great but we still ended up in bed making out. The next morning she says how she was super hungry and raced home. She's mentioned before how her mood greatly depends on food. We joke and then after not replying she sends me "Also that's my roundabout way of apologizing for being so moody yesterday"

what does she mean by that, aside from maybe leaving in a hurry, the lmr and maybe being demanding the nap I have no idea what she's talking about. 

Is that girl code for something? Lol it's  been a few hours

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LOL speaking of which.. Shit

LOL speaking of which.. Shit I didn't reply for a while cause my phone died and I'm sick:

"Hey! Is u dead? I really am sorry for how I acted last night. I felt nervous and defensive when things started heating up (literally and figuratively lol) and I shouldn't have run out so fast. That was dumb. Ive really enjoyed being with you...I even attacked my fear of Downtown driving to come down to see you....I hope I didn't screw up too bad...sorry"

oops... Didn't mean to do that :/ 

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Well you used it just as a

Well you used it just as a line rather than actually pursuing it as a mindset. That one liner is part of a much longer behavior set. As soon as she gave you back attention you folded your cards. You got to keep it up a bit longer, be more convincing LOL. 

"Well fine. But I'm not letting you play with my dick so it doesn't matter *turn away from her to watch tv/look at your phone. Bat her hands away as they start creeping towards your cock. Then watch her lose her shit*

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Manwhore wrote: Well you used

Manwhore wrote:
Well you used it just as a line rather than actually pursuing it as a mindset. That one liner is part of a much longer behavior set. As soon as she gave you back attention you folded your cards. You got to keep it up a bit longer, be more convincing LOL. 

"Well fine. But I'm not letting you play with my dick so it doesn't matter *turn away from her to watch tv/look at your phone. Bat her hands away as they start creeping towards your cock. Then watch her lose her shit*

haha yeah defintely see what I did. she came off nervous and defensive when things got heavy... uhh its because i wasnt coming off as the prize, duh. even just dropping that one line escalated things but her defensive went back up when she realized the incongruence.

she's all chalked up some dude she just met is trying to stick things into her meanwhile if I switch the frame around her fucking dna switches over and she starts working to get pregnant. this game stuff is potent

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Yep there you go. 

Yep there you go. 

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texting this girl now.. oh

texting this girl now.. oh gosh im starting to wonder why she even stayed around, she must really want to be lzid cause shes giving me a bunch of chances.

this lmr goes deep. if i were to have fucked her when I tried on two different occasions I would have been using her for an ego boost. it came off in my sub comms and she denied me. if i would have just been normal and present i wouldve saw a nervous cute girl who isn't really used to doing this stuff. i wouldve looked her in the eye, gained her trust and led her into a night filled with orgasms and fun. i rationalized my laziness with her since she can be boring and talk forever about minute details so i labeled her as boring but that doesn't matter, if i dominated the conversation like i did at certain points it couldve been a lot more fun for both of us.

more positive dominance and more connection instead of simply trying to get my dick wet for dumb purposes

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FUCK! Just typed up the

FUCK! Just typed up the report annnndddd its gone. shit! it was good, provided lots of insights into my development.. but its gone all gone :( here's the brief scoop.

met up with her. its NOT going down the route I was trying before. She gets uncomfortable and resistent. I see she needs more intimacy and connection to open up so I give her that. That progressed things like crazy but hit the same wall. I change it up and in the next 30 mins I have never been called an asshole/dickhead/douchebag more. All in good fun. I fell asleep when I got bored of her and she did too. I wake up to her putting on her jacket and boots. I start blasting away at her objections, trying to get her to stay and leave in the morning. Im still a dick but a nice one. I pull her in a use her as a pillow while shes trying to convince me she has to go. I pull it out and tell her she can after she sucks it. I think her brain fried lol she didnt expect that from the self image she had of me on our first date. she keeps making excuses "nooo... next time ill be more comfortable.. next time we'll do that"

well thats all fine and dandy but how about now too? I stood up and pulled it out, shes scared. I tell her its okay, you can touch it, and place her hand on it. She keeps throwing more shit around and I get sick of it. I start rape game and then she keeps throwing more of the same. I get kinda sick of it and her in general. I put it away, she cant touch it anymore. She moans and complains and says next time. Its all stupid. Killed my boner. I am a huge dick and elude to not meeting up again unless this goes down. Shes starts annoying me and falling off the program. I lead her to the door, she wanted me to walk her to her car but its cold as balls and Im half asleep. She asks where her car is cause I moved it for her earlier. I push her out the door, slam it shut as I tell her I sold it. I look through the peephole and she doesnt know what the fuck to think.

Fuck, I know what your thinking.. icewahine how does one sound so cool when he is so gay that he didnt even close? well.. that was retardation on my part, I can see how I couldve easily trudged through that. BUT at that point the little epiphanies I was having were much better than anything she couldve given me sexually. Although yes I will do that as a nice top off next time.

the little epiphanies I was having was unreal, neo loading the social matrix.

it was a little scary at some points to be honest. I treated this girl right no matter how it came off in the above.. but i fully see how juliens make girls cry and beg on their knees is not only extremely effective but also the scariest realization is that its even morally justifiable. geez krist. I debated going down that path and maybe i will explore it one day but I dont think my ego wants to know about that yet, even though Im pretty sure I have the skill and emotional strength to handle it. I see now why MW is careful about certain advice he gives if your not ready for it. it would be like giving a flame thrower to a 10 year old

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icewahine wrote: I am a huge

icewahine wrote:
I am a huge dick and elude to not meeting up again unless this goes down. Shes starts annoying me and falling off the program. I lead her to the door, she wanted me to walk her to her car but its cold as balls and Im half asleep. She asks where her car is cause I moved it for her earlier. I push her out the door, slam it shut as I tell her I sold it. I look through the peephole and she doesnt know what the fuck to think.

GENIUS!

Yo if a girl's that dumb yes you kick her out. Fucking SOLID lol. I did that to one girl she still talks about it to this day, two years later. She likes to bring up the time I "put her outside like a cat". Next time she came over she brought me a rotisserie chicken and a six-pack and sucked my dick while I ate. I kept exclaming while she was down there, "MMM.. this chicken is SO GOOD." 

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i could drive to this girls

i could drive to this girls house right now, pull her into my car and do all sorts of things to her. i am sure of it. the only reason i couldnt before is because i wasn't confident in my ability to be able to handle her emotionally afterwards. she seemed to have low self esteem, parents divorced, etc. thats why i avoided talking to her about deep things the first two dates even though she was hinting at it. and that its why i didnt pull the trigger, cause i was afraid that after i fuck her i wouldnt be able to handle the aftermath

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Yeah remember your dick is

Yeah remember your dick is the most important thing she could ever hope to get out of this. It's more important that you give it to her because she's worth it and all this baggage she has won't slow you down and you will ground her back down to earth and the good things in life with your dick. 

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I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

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