MW Get in Here. What your girl's sexual desires say about where you might be lacking
This is a question directly for Manwang but I think this content should be on here open to discussion.
Once you start getting further into game you start to understand the logical key in lock approach to a girl's emotions. The logical rhythm to those emotions if you will.
She needs certain modalities satisfied before she will sleep with you and if you haven't satisfied the requirements chances are she won't be down.
i.e. before she fucks you she needs to feel safe, or more turned on, or maybe she doesn't feel enough of a status gap between you two, or maybe she needs to feel a lack or being left out of something fun.
Different girls have different needs in varying degrees and it's upto you to have enough experience and know how to navigate these emotions.
Now this is interesting in relationships, because the girl might start broadcasting what emotional modalities you're not providing for her on a regular basis and this might come out as her asking for some of the wall shit. This is really fun as you can interpret your girl's response and understand if you've been slacking in one or more categories of your game. Maybe you haven't been dominant enough in life lately, or maybe you're insensitive.
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MW what I want to ask you is if my girl is getting REALLY turned on by the thought of me fucking other girls what does that mean?
I fucked her today and she got off super hard to me telling her how I would make her sit in the corner and touch herself while I mercilessly railed another girl in front of her. Humiliation was definitley present as a modality but there was definitley something more to the shape it took (essentially me dogging her)
It MIGHT be just a fantasy she has, but as a thought experiment I think I might be being too nice, not dominant enough and not exhibiting enough alpha-male high value characteristics, so she's asking for this fantasy to feel like I'm above her.
interesting thought.
The way it transpires, the whole fantasy is basically her becoming just another hoe that I fuck.
I think I might be pedastalling her, in our relationship she seems to be the star of her own movie too often
Well DAMN hi hello there Niv
this is juicy.
Like we were saying, it is the lack of self amusement broski. Does she want to watch you fuck other girls while she sits in the corner? Probably not, she wants to see you enjoy yourself. There is defintely this gap between the fire sex you guys have and the emotional coddling you give her during day to day life.
^^Couldnt of said it better myself. I've been seeing this for a long time and never knew how to express this
You coddle the fuck out of her dude. Then you rationalize it away because of some RSD speak or how she's constantly in her "masculine polarity" geezus kehghrsks
You go off the walls mind hamster w this holmes. Stop watching Tyler from rsd lol
You gotta get the reigns back on YOU
I seem to be having a different take on this whole thing. Or you guys are misunderstanding each other? Jihad and Niv y'all are on a super power kick it seems these days. It's all good to be dominating some pussy in the bedroom, but me thinks there's a bit of overcompensation going on. Remember, true power starts within. Why you trying so hard to throw reins on a girl?
Meow I like where you're going with the self-amusing thing. But the focus should actually be "self-amusing". Not punishing.
Niv where's the sensual stuff? When did this girl turn into your dick's whipping post?
I seem to be having a different take on this whole thing. Or you guys are misunderstanding each other? Jihad and Niv y'all are on a super power kick it seems these days. It's all good to be dominating some pussy in the bedroom, but me thinks there's a bit of overcompensation going on. Remember, true power starts within. Why you trying so hard to throw reins on a girl?
Meow I like where you're going with the self-amusing thing. But the focus should actually be "self-amusing". Not punishing.
Niv where's the sensual stuff? When did this girl turn into your dick's whipping post?
Jihad I think you learned a lil bit of the wrong lesson this last foray you had wth Ms. Crazypants. Your issue was you "coddled" the wrong girl. Not that coddling (or whatever other "lovey dovey" type term you want to use) is bad itself. Y'all are bitter right now against women or something? Lol
Why can't we put women on a pedestal?
Niv I want to clarify, I respect the way you treat her...you take care of this girl and help her through her rather hectic life from what I've heard. I just don't understand why/when you became so filtered around her. Not to put you on blast but you can't be speaking to your girl and have this underlying agenda that you don't want to offend her. Dude, when I'm with my girl that is when I'm MOST at ease to speak freely.
Ok I really see what you're getting at. Damn, i'm forming some really unheatlhy stuff here.
Yes, I believe so. Lol
-she is my muse, (last 2 paragraphs are the MOST important content)
The issue Jihad and I have might be similar but I feel like it’s coming from a different place,
When I say I pedestal or “coddle” my girl I’m saying I put her needs above my own.
She has a knack for acting like a spoiled brat when this is the case, she IS the kind of girl that if I give her an inch she takes a mile. At the same time the answer is obviously not to taper back how much I give if that is truly what I want to do. The answer is to develop stronger boundaries so that:
1. She appreciates how much I do for her
2. I don’t get pushed around, which again she will try to do
Self-mastery, it’s almost like a compliance momentum because I love her, I give and give and sometimes it’s hard to say no.
However if I show that I am a push-over and she has no fear of losing me I have just nice-guy-beta-provider-choded myself out.
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Meow btw I stopped filtering myself and viola just like that we laughed like we haven’t in a loooong time. The chemistry is there again, I’m playfully teasing, disapproving her and giving her shit in a very playful way.
It has been a long ass pattern of me taking her much too seriously and being much too reactive because I was focusing on developing how to lead her out of actually serious situations i.e. health complications, med school, etc..
My wing recently reminded me of how I am when I am fully self-amused. Almost like a Julien style drama, where anything in the conversation can be branched off into absolute ridiculousness while the girl takes it all seriously and rides the emotional tracks I’m presenting her only to have it all rendered a joke at the end for both of us to laugh at.
I have been having fun in conversations with her again and am enjoying our time spent together way more.
She was telling me how it feels like the first week that we met all over again, how she’s falling deeper in love with me everyday that passes.
I’m getting a sense that with my girl’s personality I need to master playful disapproval. She constantly tries to shit test me with very minor things i.e. not listening to me, non-compliance for the sake of non-compliance. If I make her take notice too severely it looks like I’m overreacting. But If I address it in a joking manner it works well
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Fucked her again except this time she’s the one who started spitting the verbal fantasy about having another girl there AND this time instead of it being about making her sit in the corner it was all about pleasuring me.
I actually remained silent most of the time and she just verbally orchestrated for me how she would use another girl as a fuck toy to make me feel good.
I just realized the sex mastery has rubbed off on my girl oh nooooo ;P
If another guy ever get’s her he’s cooked
Then fucked her totally sensually with an overbearing protective force telling how beautiful she is and how lucky I am, how much I love her, how she never has to worry again because I’m always watching and keeping her safe.
She came but I hadn’t yet, so she says to come fuck her and I try to get her to spit the whole threesome thing again to get me off, instead she hugs me tight and says she doesn’t want to share right now and wants me all to herself. Then dirty talks to me how amazing and hot I am geezez lol
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She is my muse to be at my best
It’s like I hold accountability not only to myself but to someone who relies on me as well. I am greater than her in many capacities and she needs my guidance
The other thing is she has an incredibly high standard for me. It’s a bar I set myself but clearly an incredible impact I made on her when we first met.
And no tactics/lines/advice was involved. I was just fully myself, unapologetically unfiltered, expecting girls to be on their absolute best behaviour while at the same time incredibly empathetic and caring. I see her interest start to wane when I’m not at my best and that’s nothing on her, that’s my fault. So I want to be the best for her that I can be.
I’ll give an example of this paradigm:
Does she want to travel or do activities that require money? Instead of breaking up with her or finding someone else lower maintenance I can just make more money lol
Do I falter in certain situations that require dominance in her social groups? Well shit time to level up my game
Is she working out super hard and now hanging around jacked dudes? Well shit time to start getting those gainz homie
I NEED to make this distinction thought. I am growing in the ways that I want. If she suddenly decides that elementary school bus drivers are hot that does not mean I’m going to start driving school kids on fieldtrips. I am only progressing and going harder in the areas that are personal goals, I am living from MY best qualities and she is a catalyst for that if I’ve been slacking.
http://www.manwhore.org/forum/content/advice-my-long-term-girlfriend
“you could become a guy strong-willed and aggressive enough to be able to do this with her.”
Exactly.
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Going from zero to hero. Literally from being a virgin to a year and a half later having a beautiful, published, med student swearing I’m the one, saying she feels like she’s in a romance novel when she’s around me, and also literally planning threesomes with me. It was abit of a shock to the system and I was not quite ready to accept the quality of results I was now able to produce. I became so goddamn attached not understanding that this was for the most part my doing. If Anything it’s a testament to the Skype coaching. But I have several major paradigms shifts months after training that basically had me doing EVERYTHING right. My game had come into it's own for the first time ever and I had no clue.
This led to a buttfuck of self-sabotage.
And I still drop into reaction, except I’ve been peeling back the layers of my own onion (and crying at that) and have a MUCH deeper understanding of exactly how I was operating. Funny enough though, it’s good to understand these concepts but at a certain point you want to shed everything and just let go into it, trust your body and intuition to make the right choices
Jesus Christ I was trippin...Reply coming soon.
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