My closing game sucks
Wed, 04/24/2013 - 07:52
It needs serious work.
Day3 with this girl and she comes over and end up watching a movie in my bed with her- after about 10 minutes we're making out and I put my hand down her pants and she trips out... I just don't get it.
It's like every sign in the world is there and then the second I try to escalate, she just flips out
It's like if I'm not fucking them the same night - I have a very very difficult time fucking them period.
Tried 3 more times and got rejected each time and then she got kinda upset.
We ended up talking about it for like 2 hours. Was really interesting. She basically just flat out told me I wasn't smooth and that it seemed, to her, like I was just overly aggressive from the get-go and it was very clear to her that the only thing I wanted was sex
So my question is like when the fuck am I supposed to pull the trigger because it seems like whenever I do, the girl just pushes me away...
She gave really solid advise- or so it seems
She basically said I just need to not want sex as badly- SURPRISE- that's literally what I'm TRYING to do
Like when the fuck am I supposed to go for sex- as soon as we were alone in my room watching the movie, I went for it... ugh this whole thing is so frustrating
Day3 with this girl and she comes over and end up watching a movie in my bed with her- after about 10 minutes we're making out and I put my hand down her pants and she trips out... I just don't get it.
It's like every sign in the world is there and then the second I try to escalate, she just flips out
It's like if I'm not fucking them the same night - I have a very very difficult time fucking them period.
Tried 3 more times and got rejected each time and then she got kinda upset.
We ended up talking about it for like 2 hours. Was really interesting. She basically just flat out told me I wasn't smooth and that it seemed, to her, like I was just overly aggressive from the get-go and it was very clear to her that the only thing I wanted was sex
So my question is like when the fuck am I supposed to pull the trigger because it seems like whenever I do, the girl just pushes me away...
She gave really solid advise- or so it seems
She basically said I just need to not want sex as badly- SURPRISE- that's literally what I'm TRYING to do
Like when the fuck am I supposed to go for sex- as soon as we were alone in my room watching the movie, I went for it... ugh this whole thing is so frustrating
Wed, 04/24/2013 - 08:11
#1
It's that lovey dovey shit
It's that lovey dovey shit you pulled on her first without banging her.
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Wed, 04/24/2013 - 14:43
#2
Yup, I agree. Also she
Yup, I agree. Also she actually told you her issue is that you only want sex. She basically wants some kind of relationship.
It could be because of the cherish vibe you introduced at the beginning which just sets up a completely different dynamic, it could be she is just THAT type of girl.
Some girls just won't go for 2 or 3 nighters. Period. They need that relationship-ish connection evem if it's just about sex.
So the only way ,I think, to fix that now is by not trying to have sex with her for a couple of dates. And the second you touch their pussies they always assume it's about sex. So fingering, etc. Is off the table, too.
Question is wheter or not you want that.
It could be because of the cherish vibe you introduced at the beginning which just sets up a completely different dynamic, it could be she is just THAT type of girl.
Some girls just won't go for 2 or 3 nighters. Period. They need that relationship-ish connection evem if it's just about sex.
So the only way ,I think, to fix that now is by not trying to have sex with her for a couple of dates. And the second you touch their pussies they always assume it's about sex. So fingering, etc. Is off the table, too.
Question is wheter or not you want that.
Wed, 04/24/2013 - 16:34
#3
Yeah, well she's married and
Yeah, well she's married and like 35.
apparently she thought I was 30ish... so I when I told her I was 23 she kinda tripped a bit but obviously that doesn't matter. I'm more mature than this girl in a lot of ways.
I think that after that initial text, I was golden. I just needed to not get lovey dovey after that. I should have been very short and def. not have invited her over and told her I was going to cook dinner and half the other fucking shit I said.. ugh
But this was something that was an issue from day1
First time meeting her: Pulled her back to my place same night- tons of lmr and she bailed- no sex
day2- back near her apartment she starts freaking out excessively hard as we get closer to her apartment
day3- put her hand on my dick and she trips
Jesus fucking christ, this girl has spent like a solid chunk of time in my bedroom and hasn't even taken off her damn shirt. It's super fucking frustrating. It's like what the fuck is wrong with me.. fuck
This is by far my worst area of game.
Damnit- I had a really solid period of no lmr but I was fucking the girls same night..
Off of day2s I've always gotten tons of lmr, it's very frustrating cuase these hotter girls a lot of times require a day2
Good news- my roommate was basically trippin balls on how hot this chick was... I'd put her at a solid 8/8.5.. sometimes my standards are a little off so occasionally it's nice to hear your roommate shout to you, "Dude... that girl is so fucking hot. What the hell"
apparently she thought I was 30ish... so I when I told her I was 23 she kinda tripped a bit but obviously that doesn't matter. I'm more mature than this girl in a lot of ways.
I think that after that initial text, I was golden. I just needed to not get lovey dovey after that. I should have been very short and def. not have invited her over and told her I was going to cook dinner and half the other fucking shit I said.. ugh
But this was something that was an issue from day1
First time meeting her: Pulled her back to my place same night- tons of lmr and she bailed- no sex
day2- back near her apartment she starts freaking out excessively hard as we get closer to her apartment
day3- put her hand on my dick and she trips
Jesus fucking christ, this girl has spent like a solid chunk of time in my bedroom and hasn't even taken off her damn shirt. It's super fucking frustrating. It's like what the fuck is wrong with me.. fuck
This is by far my worst area of game.
Damnit- I had a really solid period of no lmr but I was fucking the girls same night..
Off of day2s I've always gotten tons of lmr, it's very frustrating cuase these hotter girls a lot of times require a day2
Good news- my roommate was basically trippin balls on how hot this chick was... I'd put her at a solid 8/8.5.. sometimes my standards are a little off so occasionally it's nice to hear your roommate shout to you, "Dude... that girl is so fucking hot. What the hell"
Wed, 04/24/2013 - 18:27
#4
Dude, don't beat yourself up
Dude, don't beat yourself up over it. Some girls just have issues.
And Yeah, this age thing is funny. I had quite a few chicks around 30. They always trip when they find out I'm 21.But it's rather attractive because it's so uncommon and they're surprised a young dude can be so confident and leading around women. Something a lot of guys over 30 still lack.
All this self development and stuff we do here it just makes you grow in certain areas of your life. Especially emotionally. It's a big turn on for a lot of women. Particularly women over 25.
Well, it DOES look like a fucked up dynamic you went trough with this chick from the get go. All this lovey dovey stuff.. it's only good to a certain extent. Had to learn that myself. Sometimes it's just better to let these chicks go. I mean she might be hot as fuck but to me that's not worth a lot if she has tons of issues. Especially when it comes to sex and that's what you want after all.
Plenty of hotties out there.
And Yeah, this age thing is funny. I had quite a few chicks around 30. They always trip when they find out I'm 21.But it's rather attractive because it's so uncommon and they're surprised a young dude can be so confident and leading around women. Something a lot of guys over 30 still lack.
All this self development and stuff we do here it just makes you grow in certain areas of your life. Especially emotionally. It's a big turn on for a lot of women. Particularly women over 25.
Well, it DOES look like a fucked up dynamic you went trough with this chick from the get go. All this lovey dovey stuff.. it's only good to a certain extent. Had to learn that myself. Sometimes it's just better to let these chicks go. I mean she might be hot as fuck but to me that's not worth a lot if she has tons of issues. Especially when it comes to sex and that's what you want after all.
Plenty of hotties out there.
Wed, 04/24/2013 - 18:52
#5
Nah- I need to be angry about
Nah- I need to be angry about this for fucks sake.
It pisses me the fuck off.
It makes me feel like I"m not good enough because in my head, I make up this stupid story about how every fucking time I get a girl on a day2 and she's in my bed, she doesn't want to fuck- damnit this shit fucking blows.
STOP CREATING THIS FUCKING STORY BUDDHA WTF ARE YOU DOING. JUST STOP. NOW.
Stop perpetuating it. Stop buying into it. Throw the action out there and stop trying to own the response. I have all the fucking answers and if someone else wrote this, I know exactly what I would tell them to do- and I'd be correct.... but in this one fucking area, I can't seem to make as quick of progress as I've made in every other area.
No more lovey dovey shit. Even if I do enjoy it, I'm going to leave that for after sex. Which means that now I have an extra incentive to have sex- so I can show her that I care but FUCK man this is so hard becuase it's such a departure from what I want to believe.
I'm done with this for today. I have work to do. Fuck this noise.
It pisses me the fuck off.
It makes me feel like I"m not good enough because in my head, I make up this stupid story about how every fucking time I get a girl on a day2 and she's in my bed, she doesn't want to fuck- damnit this shit fucking blows.
STOP CREATING THIS FUCKING STORY BUDDHA WTF ARE YOU DOING. JUST STOP. NOW.
Stop perpetuating it. Stop buying into it. Throw the action out there and stop trying to own the response. I have all the fucking answers and if someone else wrote this, I know exactly what I would tell them to do- and I'd be correct.... but in this one fucking area, I can't seem to make as quick of progress as I've made in every other area.
No more lovey dovey shit. Even if I do enjoy it, I'm going to leave that for after sex. Which means that now I have an extra incentive to have sex- so I can show her that I care but FUCK man this is so hard becuase it's such a departure from what I want to believe.
I'm done with this for today. I have work to do. Fuck this noise.
Wed, 04/24/2013 - 21:36
#6
Lol Buddha I had the exact
Lol Buddha I had the exact same problem with closing.
I pulled this chick a couple of weeks ago.
1st night: LMR from hell. After that I walked her back to her place where she insisted I spend the night. Nothing happened.
After that: She came over several days IN A ROW giving me nothing but blueballs
I pulled this chick a couple of weeks ago.
1st night: LMR from hell. After that I walked her back to her place where she insisted I spend the night. Nothing happened.
After that: She came over several days IN A ROW giving me nothing but blueballs
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 03:55
#7
Haha bro chill out. Stay away
Haha bro chill out. Stay away from lovey dovey shit and have more fun while you're with her. Playful / fun. She'll crack. I've straight up just whipped it out on chicks and hit them with my dong because they didnt wanna fuck because i thought it was funny. Not advocating this tho.
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 03:59
#8
Yeah, sall good- I always let
Yeah, sall good- I always let myself feel my anger fully and I write it out sometimes.
But I always let myself feel it fully, for however long it wants to stay there and it can be very intense for brief moments but then it changes but I have to let myself have that moment to feel it.
But I always let myself feel it fully, for however long it wants to stay there and it can be very intense for brief moments but then it changes but I have to let myself have that moment to feel it.
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 04:03
#9
Ya i feel ya. I sometimes get
Ya i feel ya. I sometimes get like that too. I'll share some funny shit. So junior yr i was depressed cuz i didnt pull. Somehow i landed two hot chicks in same class yeae before in the same class. Bonafied hot chicks. So i was identifying with oh shit i got this... Except i didnt. Junior sucked. I pulled almost nada. Got so frustrated i cried to my homie in my car. Loooool. I cried about NOT pulling. Looking back now its pretty fucking funny.
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 04:05
#10
I cried in 3rd grade because
I cried in 3rd grade because I didn't get a popsicle and everyone else did. It really hurt. I didn't understand it.
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 04:10
#11
I second grade I had my
I second grade I had my birthday party in class but I was so busy making sure everyone got some cake that I missed out on getting any soda. I cried and the teacher bought me a soda
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I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 04:12
#12
I'm stealing that.
I'm stealing that.
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 04:14
#13
Hahahahaha. Fuck. I can't
Hahahahaha. Fuck. I can't tell if i'm being trolled.