My Day 2 Woes -- Anyone here have a high close rate on day2 ?

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Wed, 09/11/2013 - 02:28

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the bane of my dating life is probably my day2s.

Like i would say 90% of my lays are snl or none at all.

I dont screen as much perhaps. But i 've reviewed my last few dates, and the differences are small, but there are bits and pieces that indicate that i just wasn't as confident as i could have been. I could have been louder, expressed more authority and certainity. Common mistakes i used to make to make is that I would wait a while to escalate with a make out until i was sure she was more receptive. I've stopped that, Another mistake is that I wouldn't lead her right away i would sit with her at the bar for like an hour to "get her comfortable". Another mistake I would make is that I wouldn't broach taboo topics and less risker topics. Not physically positioning yourself in the right way that makes her 'feminine' to you.

I would say these little things add themselves up 1% at a time to build an overall picture of an unconfident guy, but I've been slowly improving that parts and the 'general' confidence that comes across in your eye contact, tonality, body language etc. I know that the way to her "emotional' attraction centers is realy thru your body language and general confidence not thru any words.

I try to seek permission more on my advances to my places - instead of dropping my frame and insisting. Instead of just taking her and leading her back to my place with out asking her. In stead of assuming she wants to. I always almost never try to make it appear a 'it just happened' reason but that I used to make sure she knows whats going on , no 'funny' business but again that is another sign of my lack of confidence. Because if i know its not the right way to do things, and i wouldn't be using such disguiseable excuses to bring her back to my place if truely i believed i could fuck her.

I know that there are guys out there who get like a 99% success rate on day2s -- obviously they are doing something right.

Wed, 09/11/2013 - 07:43

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I don't know how advanced you

I don't know how advanced you are Boss, but I've had the same problem before. For me... it helps me a lot to have a ton of structure. I'm not one of those super advanced guys that can improvise as they go along from start to finish yet. Without the structure I have no goal and just flail about and have the same symptoms you're having.

Have the whole thing planned out before-hand. And plan it out backwards. Here's a simple version of mine that I've been pretty successful with.

5. Sex (endpoint)

4. in the bedroom or the couch

3. my house

2. swimming in the pool or jacuzzi if possible <-- this point there has to be a good makeout, I've also just done the shower instead and skipped to sex before. It seems like everything is easier when wet.

1. Open or D2 (startpoint)

Obviously you don't have to go through ALL the steps. If she's DTF at any point, by all means, skip to the end...

I got this from Adam Lyons. He has a really good vid on youtube he did for The 21 Convention about closing and he pretty much plans every intimate detail out before hand. The lighting in his house, the music, how clean the house is, the path to his house. EVERYTHING.

Hope that helps ya

Wed, 09/11/2013 - 08:24

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Yeah I get laid on 9/10 of my

Yeah I get laid on 9/10 of my first dates. Your issue(s) are pretty obvious.. if you're doing any of the things you mentioned in that first paragraph, you're not going to get laid on a first date.. you're not even starting at ground zero, behavior like that is way below the curve.

Have you read my lay reports? There's probably twenty or so first date lays in there. Hit the home button then click on the "50 Shades of Manwhore Grey" button.

You need to start out dates with a kiss on their face. You have to lead the date from the start. You have to broach the topic of sex very matter of factly but indirectly. If you can't handle these, the only girls you're going to be able to lead to sex are the super horny or fat ones.

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Wed, 09/11/2013 - 08:26

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Uggh I can't believe you're

Uggh I can't believe you're crediting adam lyons with that SuperV.

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Wed, 09/11/2013 - 09:13

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I'm sorry dude... Didn't want

I'm sorry dude... I wasn't too keen about putting that on your forum. Was trying to help with what I know. But I didn't want to be a deuche and spout stuff I got somewhere else without referencing, as if I came up with it 100%.

Wed, 09/11/2013 - 08:59

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Naw man I meant something

Naw man I meant something else. Nevermind

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Wed, 09/11/2013 - 14:38

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Oh man this sounds like how my day2s normally go. Now that MW is kicking my ass every week, that's gonna change. Nice to know I'm not the only fairy princess who is starting to man the balls up.

Thu, 09/12/2013 - 04:39

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ok that makes sense, - i am

ok that makes sense, - i am going to have to read more of your field reports.