My First Major Negotiation
Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:14
Also: Check out The New Jim Crowe"- pretty interesting book. After Manwhore mentioned that shit about our prison systems, I started reading it- really intense guys.
So I had the idea to get in touch with benefit services companies- and basically work on partnering with them to offer our service to their clients, at a small discount.
12,000 employees within their client companies combined- almost entirely based out of New York. All of their client companies fit perfectly within our target demographic.
My boss is letting me run the entire process.. pretty sick. This could be serious cash and it's some serious innovation on my part, pretty proud of this.
I told him my plan, how much I was willing to go down to and my strategy of how I was going to approach communicating to them our position and he did not change a single thing.
The only words he said were, "That's great- well put"
Got a meeting with the company tomorrow-Time to step up and pull this sucker in.
So I had the idea to get in touch with benefit services companies- and basically work on partnering with them to offer our service to their clients, at a small discount.
12,000 employees within their client companies combined- almost entirely based out of New York. All of their client companies fit perfectly within our target demographic.
My boss is letting me run the entire process.. pretty sick. This could be serious cash and it's some serious innovation on my part, pretty proud of this.
I told him my plan, how much I was willing to go down to and my strategy of how I was going to approach communicating to them our position and he did not change a single thing.
The only words he said were, "That's great- well put"
Got a meeting with the company tomorrow-Time to step up and pull this sucker in.
Mon, 03/18/2013 - 21:02
#1
Pretty tight mang. What do
Pretty tight mang. What do you see yourself doing in 1-3 years?
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Mon, 03/18/2013 - 21:35
#2
---Within 6 months I'm
---Within 6 months I'm leaving this company and want to go work for another, slightly more established, startup here in ny that does something in adtech or mobile app development - still doing sales but ideally managing a sales team--I want to learn a lot about this kind of stuff= it's HUGE and tons of money being thrown around in the industry (I would also take a job at google or salesforce for various reasons)
--This is where I want to establish a lot of my connections. I have a lot of connections right now with the company I'm currently working for, but it's hard to develop them in the direction I want, because of the product we're selling- but I can change that if I'm selling a different product.
I already have drinks set up between me and one of the HR people at the company I want to be working at in 6 months. He was my first point of contact that I approached when I was selling them and now we're pretty tight. So I'm going to work that to try and get a leg up on getting in.
---1.5 years-- I want to have plans underway to start my own company- hopefully something in adtech or mobile app development but the specifics are flexible. I don't plan on being the "techie" behind the company, so I don't need to understand this shit on that level but I want to understand it on enough of a level that I can communicate my ideas to techies and have a partner build the product, while I work on the business side of it.
3 years- started my first company
If I have started my company by the time I'm 27- I'll consider that perfectly on track
--This is where I want to establish a lot of my connections. I have a lot of connections right now with the company I'm currently working for, but it's hard to develop them in the direction I want, because of the product we're selling- but I can change that if I'm selling a different product.
I already have drinks set up between me and one of the HR people at the company I want to be working at in 6 months. He was my first point of contact that I approached when I was selling them and now we're pretty tight. So I'm going to work that to try and get a leg up on getting in.
---1.5 years-- I want to have plans underway to start my own company- hopefully something in adtech or mobile app development but the specifics are flexible. I don't plan on being the "techie" behind the company, so I don't need to understand this shit on that level but I want to understand it on enough of a level that I can communicate my ideas to techies and have a partner build the product, while I work on the business side of it.
3 years- started my first company
If I have started my company by the time I'm 27- I'll consider that perfectly on track
Tue, 03/19/2013 - 07:42
#3
I'm okay with working for
I'm okay with working for other people for a little longer- I need to make some connections, meet the right people and gain experience (I realize I'm still young) but the fact of the matter is this:
I have been helping other people blow up their own products for far too long and then tricking myself into thinking it's MINE. Fuck that shit.
Even in college- I brought a fucking nowhere fraternity and made it the best. Period. Yes- this is trivial at a school like the one I went to but the fact of the matter is that I did it and it (along with maybe 2 other people) and what we did was innovative and truly unique and we changed the landscape of the greek scene entirely. By raising our own level of success- we have subsequently raised the level of success for all other greek organizations on campus- in order to even compete with us, the majority of them have since adopted our same strategies.
Look- I'm not claiming that I re-invented the wheel here- The things I did were simple. Very basic marketing, psychology and charismatic leading and manipulation of group think.... But you know who is benefiting from all of my hard work?
The fucking national organization that is now going to make THOUSANDS of dollars, over the years, off of the work ME AND A FEW OTHERS did to turn a fraternity that was going to be shut down because it was so shitty, into an 80 man chapter with recruitment so strong, we were actually targeted by the administration because they were afraid that we were going to turn our school into a "party" school.
I don't see a fucking DIME from that shit- All I'm left with is whatever "pride" i can take away from what I did.
ADDITIONALLY- Everything I do for my current boss makes him MILLIONS- were talking LITERALLY millions- I have the numbers... In the time that I have been there- I account for over 2/3 of our business. And yeah- I've gotten a VERY decent paycheck the past couple months- but NO it doesn't come even remotely CLOSE to what I deserve.
The issue here is that I'm taking OTHER PEOPLES shit and blowing it up for them. I'm allowing myself to be used.
You know what the BIGGEST thing I've learned is, from being around two very successful founders, who are running a company with revenue between 5-10 million dollars a year?
I'm learning that I'm JUST AS SMART AS THEM. They have certain skills that I don't have- sure... but I have certain skills they don't have. Sure, I have plenty to learn but the fact of the matter is that there is absolutely NOTHING that separates me from them- except that I am choosing to work for them and make them money and they are choosing to work for themselves and make themselves money.
And honestly- I'm getting tired of helping others promote and sell their own products- it's getting to be about time that I do it for MYSELF. I need to do for MY OWN PRODUCT what I've done for everybody else my entire life. I've always taken others people shit and made it better than they could have on their own, in faster time and jesus christ am I sick of it.
I have to start doing this shit for myself. I'm too smart. Too aware. Too motivated and have too much potential to continue to waste it on helping other people achieve their goals... it's not who I am.
No apologies here, fuckers.
I have been helping other people blow up their own products for far too long and then tricking myself into thinking it's MINE. Fuck that shit.
Even in college- I brought a fucking nowhere fraternity and made it the best. Period. Yes- this is trivial at a school like the one I went to but the fact of the matter is that I did it and it (along with maybe 2 other people) and what we did was innovative and truly unique and we changed the landscape of the greek scene entirely. By raising our own level of success- we have subsequently raised the level of success for all other greek organizations on campus- in order to even compete with us, the majority of them have since adopted our same strategies.
Look- I'm not claiming that I re-invented the wheel here- The things I did were simple. Very basic marketing, psychology and charismatic leading and manipulation of group think.... But you know who is benefiting from all of my hard work?
The fucking national organization that is now going to make THOUSANDS of dollars, over the years, off of the work ME AND A FEW OTHERS did to turn a fraternity that was going to be shut down because it was so shitty, into an 80 man chapter with recruitment so strong, we were actually targeted by the administration because they were afraid that we were going to turn our school into a "party" school.
I don't see a fucking DIME from that shit- All I'm left with is whatever "pride" i can take away from what I did.
ADDITIONALLY- Everything I do for my current boss makes him MILLIONS- were talking LITERALLY millions- I have the numbers... In the time that I have been there- I account for over 2/3 of our business. And yeah- I've gotten a VERY decent paycheck the past couple months- but NO it doesn't come even remotely CLOSE to what I deserve.
The issue here is that I'm taking OTHER PEOPLES shit and blowing it up for them. I'm allowing myself to be used.
You know what the BIGGEST thing I've learned is, from being around two very successful founders, who are running a company with revenue between 5-10 million dollars a year?
I'm learning that I'm JUST AS SMART AS THEM. They have certain skills that I don't have- sure... but I have certain skills they don't have. Sure, I have plenty to learn but the fact of the matter is that there is absolutely NOTHING that separates me from them- except that I am choosing to work for them and make them money and they are choosing to work for themselves and make themselves money.
And honestly- I'm getting tired of helping others promote and sell their own products- it's getting to be about time that I do it for MYSELF. I need to do for MY OWN PRODUCT what I've done for everybody else my entire life. I've always taken others people shit and made it better than they could have on their own, in faster time and jesus christ am I sick of it.
I have to start doing this shit for myself. I'm too smart. Too aware. Too motivated and have too much potential to continue to waste it on helping other people achieve their goals... it's not who I am.
No apologies here, fuckers.
Wed, 03/20/2013 - 04:04
#4
It's not that I don't want to
It's not that I don't want to help other people- I actually do... in fact, that's probably one of the things I want to do the most but I think what makes me mad is actually a couple things:
1. I am letting my own desire to help others, take precedent over my desire to help myself
2. I can't even do the best job of helping others, that I'm capalbe of, without achieving my goals first
So it's like the whole thing is just bullshit
The issue here is that I haven't allowed myself to achieve my goals first and so I end up HARMING myself by helping others because I let it get in the way of my own goals.
It's like instead of finishing the race and then helping the other people finish- I'm stopping halfway through, running backwards, picking the other contenders up and trying to run back and finish the rest of the way while carrying everyone else on my back
I do this to myself. It's my choice and that's what makes me mad.
Fuckin A
1. I am letting my own desire to help others, take precedent over my desire to help myself
2. I can't even do the best job of helping others, that I'm capalbe of, without achieving my goals first
So it's like the whole thing is just bullshit
The issue here is that I haven't allowed myself to achieve my goals first and so I end up HARMING myself by helping others because I let it get in the way of my own goals.
It's like instead of finishing the race and then helping the other people finish- I'm stopping halfway through, running backwards, picking the other contenders up and trying to run back and finish the rest of the way while carrying everyone else on my back
I do this to myself. It's my choice and that's what makes me mad.
Fuckin A