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My text/facebook game SUCKS A DICK. If I'm not pulling on the night, there's a good chance I'll never see her again....

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Hey all

I'm new to Manwhores Forum, though have been in with RSDN for a while. I notice that all the RSDN advice threads are full of fail so thought I'd give here a try (on recommendation from Budhagames).

Anyway, so I'm not a newbie. I pull quite frequently, and with quality. But my followup text game for girls I don't take home on the night - SUCKS. I've known this for ages but it boiled over for me in frustration after this weekend (when I went out Thurs, Fri, Sat). I made out with about 5 high quality girls and had some quality time with all of them (these weren't just 'flashbang' make-outs. I couldn't pull on the nights due to a combination of bad luck and logistics, but got their numbers instead (as you do), convinced I could get day 2's with them all.

Well, this was not the case. And it's happened far too much now. I'm sick of it. I think the main problem for me has been the fact that I don't really have any outer game techniques. Good vibe + physicality is pretty much all I've been about. This is probably why my text/fb game sucks. There's no way to convey vibe or fun in the same way that I do in a club, so all my messages end up looking boring as fuck. I do get some day 2's - and when I do they go well. But for the numbers I'm working I should definitely be getting more. What I'm looking for is some good advice on this. I'd put up some examples of me messaging back and forward but they'd be too short to help...
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, there's a good chance I'll never see her again....
@MARTIN CROWE:
Post some of your Texting with these girls, then it's easter to give you some advice.
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Re: My text/facebook ga
@MARTIN CROWE:
Crow how do you know Travis
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@Casablancas:

These are really short and lame - but here:

Me: Hey ya Alectra, its mike. You were too interesting on Friday for me not to do anything. I say we get desert tonight and continue where we left off ;)

Her: Hey mike, I already have plans for tonight. Raincheck? :)

Me: Ok, let;s try for Tuesday then.

- No more responses -

I also had her on facebook and said hi, but no response..


Me: How you spending this fine afternoon in Sydney? You do remember the guy who stopped you from leaving Argyle right? haha.

- No response -

That's how most of them are, no response on even the first text. Bare in mind I've made out with these girls and hung out with them for a bit also :/
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@Manwhore:
He gave me some solid internet marketing tips a couple of years ago - haven't met him in real life though.

Also, how could you tell that from here?
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You are putting too much value on the interaction. Don't think or treat the interaction as anything special, and especially don't let her know that you do. Like if you just met for like 5 minutes and are like "oh yea remember we met here and u said this and i said this", she don't give a fuck, it didn't mean anything to her and if she sees it means something to you then she thinks your just some needy loser.

If when you ask a girl out she doesn't agree or flakes then she more than likely isn't comfortable meeting up with you yet. You usually can't fix that by asking her again, you gotta emotionally change her mood (be playful with her, make her see how fun you are, make her see who you are) before asking her out again.

Also avoid boring 1st messages like "how are you" , "whats up" and other generic chode stuff. Be different, be playful, have fun with it.
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EDIT: Hey bud, I just read how you say there is "No way to convey vibe/fun" or wtvr in text... That's EXACTLY what text game IS... so yes, you're in luck, you're gonna learn how to do exactly what you want to do. Look at some of the text convo threads on here. I have some good ones, manwhore, obviously has some AMAZING ones and there are some others on here that are really good as well... You'll get the gist.

That first text should be something playful and slightly accusatory. Try using some callback humor but basically the accusatory part is what gets the response and the playful bit is just so she knows you're just fuckin around... but maybe not.. ; )

You can also put in a question as long as it fits in with the general tone of the message.

Also- when she went for the raincheck- you BIT... HARD.

In an interaction like this where there isn't much background and you guys are still kinda feelin eachother out, via text, don't go for the reschedule IMMEDIATELY after she asks for a raincheck... I would just ignore it and start some fluff banter back and forth a little... basically just showing her your personality via text.. but you wanna keep taht playful/accusatory VIBE throughout the convo... obviously this isn't like some routine or something but just a general vibe you want to have.

After there is some back and forth and she's used to texting you (this doesn't have to take long) you wanna hit the reschedule on a PEAK note of the convo and make it something casual... beer and icecream is a manwhore classic... Doesn't have to be that but something that doesn't SCREAM date..
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@Sick-Cunt:
Yeah, but these were longer than 5 minutes. Like 30 minutes of solid, romantic physical stuff. Otherwise I wouldn't even bother getting the number.
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@buddhagames:
Cheers man, yeah all that makes a lot of sense. I've looked through the text database section but didn't feel there was anything in there that was good for the situation at hand (I've used stuff like this on established fuck-buddies etc). Maybe I'm missing some sections. Do you have any good examples you could point me too for situations such as the one I'm in?

But yeah, looking back now I failed hard on the raincheck...
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@MARTIN CROWE:
You have to register to use the forum I just plugged in your email to Facebook and saw we had a "mutual friend". I like to leer at you guys who use my forum late at night when I'm not wearing any pants. Travis is one of my best friends he designed both the logo for the forum as well as my main site.

You've gotten some great advice in this thread in fact every single thing I wanted to point out someone else already did.

I understand what you mean when you say these were solid interactions and you're not exactly understanding what sick-cunt is getting at. Basically what you need to realize is that "follow-up" game is a whole 'nother level and you need to play it right to get to the next level.
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Click on my username and look at the thread listed underneath. Something about sticking it in her
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@MARTIN CROWE:
Basically what you need to realize is that "follow-up" game is a whole 'nother level and you need to play it right to get to the next level.


Interesting that I've never heard anyone putting it that way before. V. Good to be aware of.
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Your a strong troll MW. You can't click usernames.
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on the night, there's a good chance I'll never see her again....
Oh but.. I can.
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Stop masturbating to my facebook manwhooreeee... jk

DO me noaww!
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Hey Martin...How about calling?
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@MARTIN CROWE:
I've kinda just had an epiphany recently and that is, unless you set up the interaction when you first met that chick(s) to be very sexual and pulled or immediately set up another date that was solid Then I'm pretty sure that you can SOMETIMES go straight in for the first text to date thing. You can do that More so if you actually set up plans during the first interaction and she was down, but if you did do that you should probably call her anyways. IMO that shows higher value than being a puss and texting when you KNOW your going to hang because that's what you set up.

Texting when you just got a new number w/or without those two pretenses should show the chick your funny,not creepy, and going to be a really cool dude to hang out. Trust me and ive heard manwhore say this and have tested this ;escalating without proper attraction over text or in real life will guarantee get her to think your a creep and not respond well-if at all. Just think, even if she thinks your stunning and hottest guy ever, that will immediately and forever be killed if she thinks your creepy or needy. (she might put up w the needy,but little girls are needy.not bosses looking to fuck)

So be that funny fucker over text, build that connection and when it's solid and she doesn't think your fuckin a creep just tying to fuck her, then pull/set up a date an try and fuck her :D :p. That's all texting is,building rapport throwing in subtle or blatant sexuality to see how she responds when you can't do it in real life. I have learned texting is a totally different ball park than real life interaction and that is because we have no body language to read, which as humans is a massive part of interpersonal interactions. It seems your TREATING TEXTING like a face to face situation, AND ITS NOT!!!!And a solid quote that is really true and has helped me is "not sure what to say during texting? What would you say/do if you were texting or with ten other down chicks?" so don't be needy or weird, and text chicks like she isn't a big deal in your books. It will take a couple days probably, but take it from me the king of escalating too fast w/o proper attraction: you will not get laid. So take a deep breath, you don't have to fuck her tonight, because building that connection and friendship will get you pussy for life :p and lead to a nice fulfilling friendship/relationship
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@chinaboy:
I always try calling first. I prefer it immensely - but lots of girls are bad about picking up their phone.
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@thedeepdirty:
Yeah man, this is all good stuff. I think I've been guilty of forgetting how irrelevant in-the-moment passion can ultimately mean nothing to the girl the next day. Anyway, so tried up my last number from the weekend with a plagiarised mix of a few old things I've known about for a while, as well as some of manwhores stuff + plus my own random spin on things. Basically tried to make this as absurd as I could. It felt unnatural at first, but it's definitely working and becoming more fun. This girl is 18 years old, blonde and hot:


Me: You can be my text message girlfriend for the next 5 minutes

Me: Aw, now we're broken up. Its not me its u. Was fun though

Her: Hahahahahah. I am super busy at work, forgive me Mike?

Me: I'll try. Time heals all wounds. Serious though it was ;)

Her: Wow so emotional. I guess some time out from each other will be beneficial?

Her: ;)

Me: I agree.I knew rushing into this marriage was a bad idea!

Her: My judgement was clouded by lust.

Me: I know, it was a pretty fucking hot night - u were a freak. But perhaps we should work something out for the kids. And the goldfish, Horatio

Her: It was intense, it took me a week for me to get my hair looking the same again. Maybe we should try and smooth things out, but not for the kids, for Horatio. He just keeps circling his bowl.

Me: His is a nice fish. Big fucking eyes, but a nice fucking fish. Let's work this out over beer and icecream

Her: I wouldn't want to put Horatio through the therapy he'll need if we divorce so let's do the beer and icecream - you're shout.

Me: If this is what it takes to make things right ;)

Her: Yes, I'm willing to work through this - but only for the goldfish!

Me: The distance between us makes this compromise difficult. If ur serious about fixing this, we'll have to meet somwhere tomorrow night thats good for us both - like the moon, or sydney centre.

** She lives an hour away**

Her: I am VERY serious about fixing this but I have to work tomorrow night to put food on the table for our kids. Let's meet on the weekend instead :)

Me: Ah yes, Barney and Clementine - I almost forgot! See you on the weekend then!

Her: Most definitely. Do you mind reminding us why we chose such strange names for our kids?

Me: We named them after our favourite sex positions. The Barney and the Clementine. Surely you recall

Her: Sadly not, please enlighten me with descriptions of these? Lol

Me: How could u forget! The Barney is where we both get it on in suit tops, shirts and ties while riding a unicycle. But surely you recall the clementine?

Her: Our son should have excellent balance then. Oh I'm loving your descriptions, I would like to hear what you remember of the Clementine?

Me: Baby, one of the reasons we broke up was that u were not contributing enough to the relationship. But if u really don't recall - the clementine is where you get fucked so hard you hyperventilate into blacking out briefly. Maybe that's why you don't recall. I have no idea why it's called the Clementine ;D

Her: That sounds kinda scary lol I must admit you are of the most random people I ever messaged lol.

Me: No it's not scary - It basically means you just come to hard and too much ;) And yes, texting you is fun, but will be more fun when I see you next time, wifey.

Her: I'm just excited for the beer and icecream, hubby.
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@MARTIN CROWE:

Ummm....

#Winning

Dude. That was fucking awesome.
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@MARTIN CROWE:
Well played man. Super solid texting. She bit real hard on that role play lol. The Barney and Clementine ftw lmao
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@MARTIN CROWE:
I remember back in the day when Tim would have students send out that text at the end of bootcamp. Then we'd sit there with students helping them with their replies ; ). GREAT way to vibe off the text girlfriend opener.
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@MARTIN CROWE:
Wow that's so dope dude. Your the man. Substantially more awesome than your first ones!!! :p. seeing progress like that makes me siked for you and gives me a mad bone dog for improving myself too. Overall inspiring, your the man
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Thanks amigos. Possibly this means I seal her this weekend. In any case I'll start applying this random formula to all new numbers I get and see if I can get some consistency with it.
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Fuck me now Martin......fuck me now.....pefection!
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Ya was well executed. Martin just follow up with her every several hours or so, at least one or two texts a day. Lots of guys make the mistake of thinking they've got smooth sailing to the meetup and don't text her again till an hour before the date. Then the girl flakes and they wonder why.
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@Manwhore:

I know that feel bro...
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Good to know, will take on board >>
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So I didn't meet up with that girl after all. We were organizing to meet up at a club in town but she was running an hour late. In the meantime I opened the first girl I saw who looked good - blonde, toned, feisty and Scottish - as it turned out. Not only was she better looking than the other one, she also represented my chance to tick off the last of the home nations (England, Ireland & Wales have already been notched). She was also super into me and it proved to be one of the easiest pulls I'd ever done - as in less than 10 minutes. I spent the whole night slamming her and forgot about wifey who didn't end up texting me back anyway. Since Scottish girl was the first chick I spoke too that night I didn't get any new numbers either. So fail on the text front, but at least it came with some win also :)

I had a cold all of last week also which prevented me from going out on the weeknights, so this week I should get a Thursday night out also - one of the better nights in Sydney.
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Rnight, there's a good chance I'll never see her again....
@MARTIN CROWE:
One shot one kill. Can't argue
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Re: Rnight, there's a good chance I'll never see her again....
Nice Martin. Eventhough meeting up with a girl at the club seems like a dumb idea if you want to keep her.
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Re: Rnight, there's a good chance I'll never see her again....
@Sick-Cunt:Fuck ya Crowe !!! I still have mad anxiety about pullin at bars but then again I've only been to two :p When it all come down to it, the purpose is getting laid, that is the main goal(throw in good connections and fun times too) so mission accomplished. Numbers are easy to get, pussy can be a little harder :p so congrats. And sick don't be a hater !! : p everyone has there own style And lessons to learn. I'm sure plenty of happy couples met at bars
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@Sick-Cunt:
I was only planning on banging this girl - probably little else :P I live in the center of town and the bars/clubs I go too come with logistics handled quite nicely (like a 5 - 10 minute walk back to my apartment).
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@thedeepdirty:
Pulling at club/bars is probably the easiest place to pull from. Some folks in North America/Europe might say online dating - but here in Australia it's regarded as weirdo territory and the quality online is pretty sparse. I have given it a go, but then only half-tryingly, and I've never known any of the Aussie crew to hook up with girls from OKC/POF etc. Pulling at bars just comes down to sharpening the senses. I had about 2 months where I hardly went out (just seeing a couple of girls regularly) then when I kicked back into it a couple of weeks ago - got some really solid stuff in the club, but wasn't tuned enough at the time to register pulling the trigger and pulling the girl (hindsight always a bitch). At the start of the year when I was going out alot, I was pulling a lot more.

But yeah ultimately it's that follow up/text game which is my current missing link.
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Me too bro
@MARTIN CROWE:
Hah. Like this thread. Was trying to text a girl i didnt pull and just like martin im all "But how to text? ?? Argh!"

Read this shit, got it, date set up. Initial interaction was solid but i think a lotta us rsd phaggots get good at real life game without text shit...