Need Advice, Conversation With a 20 yr old

@wsmb:

I dunno man, think you kinda rinsed the whole dyke joke. And you didn't even tell her you were gonna show her your dyke wtf.

@kris:

That's why I'm here, to learn something. What you mean? I overused dyke and shoulda escalted to sexting?

@kris:

That's why I'm here, to learn something. What you mean? I overused dyke and shoulda escalted to sexting?

The fisting comment was pretty genius I was impressed. I would just stay on this it'll happen at some point.

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@Manwhore:

Oh dam! Manwhore THX man! I thought twice about sending that one but I was like fuck it!!! It's been dead air as of the last two days though...I think I fucked up after that funny joke man (I just read your advice and this happened before), In between this text bit we had a conversation which I'd rather not put up cause it's got too much personal info and it's loooooonger, to summarize that convo:

We traded pictures between her room and my apt, she loved my apt, then when I asked her for one of hers in her bed, she turned me down. I had her laughing and asking me to come to my aunts' party after that but I refused cause I was just being stubbornness. Been two days since I texted her and no texts from her so far.

Here's the last text session: (fucken dry)

Me: Waz up mamasita?
Me - 3 mins later: Wanna get Japanese later? (she was down for it the first time, then she flaked)
Me - 1 hr later: ??
Girl - 1 hr 50 mins later: Naah I can't I gotta study and I think ima go to the gym
Girl: Naah I can't I gotta study and I think ima go to the gym
Me - 2 hrs 4 mins later: O.k, It's not like you're afraid to go out me right?
Girl - 59 mins later: Lol na not really , I'm just trying to get good grades
Me - 2 hrs 50 mins later: That class is though keep at it. I'm proud of you

Next Day

Me - 16 hrs 22 mins later: Home?
Me - 31 mins later: Come to my aunt's, say hi
Girl - 5 mins later: You Gunna be there for awhile ?
Me: Not sure, (My cuz) is cooking so ima supervise lol!
Girl - 1 min later: Lol haha, I'm so sore I went to the gym !
Me - 1 min later: that's good means you did it right, come were making teriyaky steak
Me - 2 mins later: You got a little paintbrush? We need to glaze
Girl - 2 mins later: Lol nah

She came over and hung out, we weren't really talking we weren't clicking like before, made more conversation with another girl that was there about music, had a few more laughs and bounced.

Needless to say I'm falling into friend zone territory. Every time I come over and asked her to come she shows up but there's always people there so flirting and physical touch is minimal. Also she has a boyfriend (round her age) guys a douche 9/10 she talks to my cuz about the fight they just had, I ignore it. I'm not going to trash the kid and say "you're better off with me". I'm not into talking to girls about their problems, I'll listen and relate to them to an extent. I'm about taking them away from all that while they're with me and enjoying our time together.

Holmes you got a long way to go. I'm not sure how this girl is so close to your family but it is very obvious shit is not going the way you want here. The whole apartment pic trading screams platonic and friendzone, and if you're afraid to make moves in front of family then you're not really being boss enough to inspire a girl to want to get penetrated by you. Know what I mean?

@wsmb:

yep, definitely a long way to go.

Me: Waz up mamasita?
Me - 3 mins later: Wanna get Japanese later? (she was down for it the first time, then she flaked)
Me - 1 hr later: ??

imo this was very needy. obviously you can get away with more the longer you've known a chick, but you're losing value here buddy

@Manwhore:

Too close for comfort, I know her dad and my mom would look down on it. Thanks for the advice on the pics would've never known, also on the makin moves part applies in general to all women. I'm just leaving it alone for now fore it's irrecoverable and get back to it when I have. More skill. Appreciate all your feedback

@CyberShot:

I know man I totally felt needy but I know her a long time, she's just so bad looking now. I haven't texted in like 6 days though, just letting it go for now....

@wsmb:

it's all too jokey and gimmicky.

too many laughs, not enough "yeah i'm gonna fuck the shit outta you, just so you're informed." Hence all the laugh-out-louds after you're done saying something a bit risky. You don't wanna be stuck on one emotion for too long, it's hard when the dynamic with you and a girl has been friendly/chode from the get-go but her douche BF definitely ain't feeling the need to tell a hundred jokes per second with this chick.

Wait doesnt this chick have a bf? Ho fosho. Man id just use yer aunt as leverage, get her over and then carbar. Smash her in the car, this girl is not gonna meet up otherwise imo. Give her the dong and pz her out.

@Manwhore:

Hey Man, gotta say still no text back so far from this chick. However I've been reading your forum and seen some of your stuff on youtube as well as DJ Fuji (found out about you from the video posted on cassanova crew interview btw. Just by being more assertive and not backing down on my actions and just being myself and having a good time I've been able to get two chicks so far. One during this long MLK weekend which I've tried to get for a while ( had to travel to MD but I really wanted that and got it!) and then another just last night I met at a club before leaving to MD both hot as hell. Plus I'm getting text backs from a hot GILF that I met at the same club.... I guess I'm getting better at playing with girls my own age and up (I'm 31), just not sure how to reach into this chick's young mind yet.... Just want to say; your speeches from the 21 conference and other stuff on youtube helped me smooth over some personal shit with my ex as well (she saw all the pua stuff I've been looking at justified it and she eventually was o.k with it, she cried and all but "I made it o.k for me to do so". Thanks Man

@Aequitas:

She does like to drink man, we drank about 10o.z of whiskey that day, just don't know what to say......This long weekend I got 2 hot Professional women to like me and fuck me but I can't get this ditsy 20yr old to do the same. kinda kills me why I can't, like wtf how do I do this??? she barely has any value compared to these other girls.....I feel I gotta be like a surgeon with this situation though...can't have any slip ups to get her in bed and no one can know it happened. thanks for the car idea bro

@Gogo:

I know dood, I felt stuck in a corner, so I stopped texting her, any ideas on how to start her up with just sex in mind right away? I know she'll respond to a "simple waz up"