No porn and no alcohol - some advice for beginners and some of my own sticking points

That's a great book mate, I plan on rereading it as I read it like 7 years ago. 

I also don't drink really (unless with girls) and no porn for me (well, maybe if the chick wants it ;)). 

a) I don't see this as an issue man, it's rather an advantage as you tell. I think you should've realized when it was dangerous that you lose the girl and just tell your friends what's going on. They can't be mad if the chick was hot ;) You could've tell your friends or for the chick for that matter to meet you another time. You could've even smoke together. 

b) create some story and tell her you just drink something quickly and you bring her back to her friends. You show her something cool, want to listen to your music, find something bad about the location etc.

Maybe here is where making out with her can help, so the friends see you together and more okay of you leaving with her and them not joining. You can also isolate when the friends are at yours or they may go home. 

I just signed up for the training and not as pro as many here, but this is my take on this.

Thanks for your reply man! Well i know that a) it sounds very easy to solve but it keeps happening all the time lol. It's not only friends but i feel an urge to talk to other hot girls which results in me losing chicks sometimes.

Wtf Bonobo? Who are you mang? Lol you must've hit me up for coaching from a different email.

Papaya here's the thing mang.. you gave up alcohol and porn and STILL give up a hottie to talk to two friends? Wtf dude. The POINT of no fap/no alcohol blah blah is to increase your natural state of arousal and closing mentality. So why the fuck isn't it workin. What sort of results and/or progress have you made with these changes?

@Manwhore Yeah those friends were two hot quality girls though not just some random scrubs. I would have felt like an asshole if i didn't say hi. I told them i have to leave pretty quickly but i still couldn't find the chick later lol.

I've definitely made progress though. I don't have any approach anxiety i'm always talking to girls and moving them around the club. It's true though i still lack the closing mentality. I've mostly focused on relaxing and having fun in the latest month i'd say, because my university courses have been pretty overwhelming. Often times i'd study to like 9pm, then go out sober and still have fun while all other people have to drink their heads off.

I pulled 3 girls in the last 30 days but they were easy pulls. If i were a harder/better closer i could perhaps have pulled the double or perhaps even more. Definitely need to start taking responsibility to make things happen and make it a habit.

I'm pretty sure that's even worse. 

Sure. It just happened very fast in the moment though. I've acknowledged my flaws and looking to improve. By biggest sticking point is still getting the girl back to my place.

My pulls this month:
Girl 1 just texted me and asked me where i was. I was out eating some food so i tellher to meet me outside. We walk around town for a bit and then we go to my place ans bang.

Girl 2 matched on tinder and exchanged snapchats. I texted her and say we should meetup. She has to catch the last bus for tge night but i tell her she can sleep in my place. We go to my place and bang

3. I had met this girl at some club previously and exchanged facebooks. After i lost the other chick that i mentioned earlier i start talking to this chick. During the time i was talking to her probably a dozen friends and hot girls came and greet me but i didn't lose her this time lol. It was pretty obbious she was down so i tell her we can have a small afterparty at my place but she isn't allowed to tell anyone. She agrees and we go to my place.

You guys think what i did with girl 3 is a solid strategy? Saying something like "afterparty, only me and you". It's pretty direct. I was told it's good to baby step it ie taking them to eat first, but so far quite a few girls have complied to go eat but i haven't fucked any of them

Sounds like you're stiff. You're probably leaving pussy on the table all the time honestly. 

Be more casually comfortable about taking control of logistics. "A small afterparty" will sound like a sleazy cop-out like you're worried about coming off "sexual" and that you don't own your own male sexuality, e.g. you don't "prize" yourself. Dude.. the experience you give to a girl when you seduce her, take her home and fuck her into oblivion will be among the greatest experiences of her life. Act like you know this. Make it happen 

Thanks!

I am way less horny without alcohol and porn, lol.

What works for me to pull is, when things are on and you spent enough time with her (it can be 10 minutes or 1 hour, depends on the girl/situation) you just say let's go, or don't even say anything, and lead her out. She asks the questions, instead of you giving her excuses to go with you. Sometimes they already know and you don't even need to say anything if they don't ask, which makes the vibe even better, like shes's wondering to herself "will he fuck me?". 

If she decides to ask or give you shit, she may ask "where are we going" or say she can't. because xxx. Then you can start delaing with objections in a more clear way. Also, they ask always the same stuff and give the same objections, so it's good to have the answers ready.

Nigga why you doing it then