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What's up everyone! I'm new round here, thought I would create a weekly/biweekly journal to try and track progress. Goal is to get mw training but i'm dead broke and thought this would be the next best alternative for now. Going to keep things pretty straight to the point, give a little background, and kind of delve into issues as they come. I’ll attach a text convo or two as well. I’m a newb, heads up

Sitch:
3 semesters left at college
Gf in open relationship (but i have pretty mixed feelings about her)
In house of mildly chodey dudes (not frat, nothing against it tho ofc)
I can't approach on campus for shit (bc i’m a little bitch), except only at the bus stop for whatever reason. but can most of the time when out
two girls i’m into/texting right now
Did a bit of daygame with some community dudes a couple years back
Starting from scratch here pretty much in terms of social circles
Sex w 3 girls total in my life, hopefully a fourth tn lol

Goals:
Have a crew of girls on call, regular adventures
Develop very nice social circle game
Get a consulting or data analytics job after I graduate, potentially get MBA
Make some money and afford mw training.
Get a car sales job on saturdays (worked at a dealer and sold cars over summer)

Biggest Issues:
Time management (fuuuuuck)
Perfectionism (leads to agonising over texts)
Not sexualizing enough, or more typically, knowing I have to sexualize at some point and if I miss that natural feeling window, I do something devastating. Deploying some fucking “kino” that should never have been unleashed upon this planet
Over analysis/over thinking, leading to thoughts clouding my mind when I need to be focused, esp thoughts of game/chasing tail when I should be getting all my other shit handled

Alright here's a situation that's been on my mind:

Suitemate's good friends with this girl who lives in the same student housing complex as me, hung around our place the first week or so. I wasn’t into her bc she had a boyfriend and was good friends with my suitemate. and "wasn't my type". Hung out with her and my suitemate a couple, smoked up on roof etc. Then I found out she has a big fat crush on me, from the roommate, he really encouraged me to make a move. Also she broke up with her bf.

Basically we go out to bars, she’s all over me, I keep it pretty laid back but only lead sporadically through dancing, moving etc. she is the one who is really making moves most of the time tho. I do about 20% of the work and she is leading my around all over the place by the end of the night into her bedroom. The thing is, holy shit she was fantastic at sex. She hits me up when i'm sick a couple days later as a booty call, I come over and we make things happen. I gave a decent performance but I was sick and, idk, shit got to me and I wasn’t as dominant, and not being used to a more dominant girl like her I feel like that was really a missing element here.

Things go kind of south from here: I don’t call her back the next day bc I really was feeling fucked and had to handle my school work. But I start to catch some of them feels. Then I found out she’s been hanging out with a dude on the baseball team quite a bit, and holy shit I get wildly jealous out of nowhere. Noticing this I avoid texting her next day to try and callous this bitchy little wound, def does not help.

Don’t text the next day either. Text her the third day to come to career fair with me and be all responsible n shit. She flaked bc she is too stressed lol (pretty sure this is genuine), but hit her up a couple days later on the weekend to go eat for breakfast in the morning, just us. She is pretty damn aloof there and I am asking way too rapport questions to try and get things moving again, with only a little quality sprinkled in. I try to seed something for the night (she says she’s going out maybe we will run into each other, and that it was cool we ate etc.) At night I hit her up once, in snap asking what adventures she’s up to, no response. Later on snap again to let her know where I’m headed she says “haha have fun” Fuckkkk.

Next day I invite her to a bbq I host. She flakes, also my texting to her was pretty wack I think, I'll attach it. That's the last I've talked to her and it's been a week. Wanted to let my failures in communication dissapate a little before I try and re-engage. Want to re-engage soon but decided to do so only after having sex with another girl.

Some of this is missing but here is the text convo leading up to bbq, this is the last contact Ive had with her and its been a little over a week.

Me :Oh, BBQ is happening today at 7! (6:05)
Me :There will be alcohol to cure all hangovers (6:05)
Her: Haha ok where is it (6:06)
Me: Behind the ________ (6:18)
Me: So like behind ____ (6:21)
Her: Ok I'll try to come but I'm doing some stuff rn! (6:22 )
Me: Yep np. Don't get too studious though :P 6:44
Me: Actually we're by the old clubhouse 7:24
Her: I'm not even home rn NoCash lol 7:27
Me: We blew up the grill 8:47
Me: No survivors 8:47
me: We did actually blow up the grill tho 8:48
her: How!! 8:48
Me: I'm not even sure tbh. We just opened it and it happened 8:52
Me: Premature ending haha 8:52
Me: Haha I'm sorry to hear that 8:52



So that’s how I fucked up a situation with a girl who I wasn’t into at first, have a massive crush on now, and now feel slightly emasculated whenever I see a baseball player on campus. Also the reason why I decided to get back into game. Bc if I can’t fuck her, I'll just fuck everyone else. But for real, this shit has been on my mind waayyy too much. Any feedback appreciated

I'll attach another text convo with another girl I’ve been gaming shortly.
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Go to 0:10 for a visual

Go to 0:10 for a visual representation for "deploying kino"

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OMG! Lmao   NoCash wrote: Go

OMG! Lmao surprise broken heart

NoCash wrote:
Go to 0:10 for a visual representation for "deploying kino"

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Daddyjihad1 (not verified)
Bruh this is your fault for

Bruh this is your fault for playing "mr.cool" and chasing her away. She liked you, got the msg you didn't like her though your actions, she finds another dude and moves on. Now you look like needy.

Let her go unless you want to ruin a potential friendship and kill your current social circle. 

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Yeah, this is is def an issue

Yeah, this is is def an issue I've been having. Think it happens through intention to lead and make things happen being subverted by a form of anxiety manifesting as the whole mr. Cool thing. Something I gotta be more conscious of.

It's probably in my best judgement to stop, but I think I have another opportunity soon. Things went south with her dude, and I thought I'd initiate a few low key group things with her. Will any move I make as needy/uncallibrated at this point? Its been about two weeks and I'm seeing other girls

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NoCash wrote:Yeah, this is

NoCash wrote:
Yeah, this is is def an issue I've been having. Think it happens through intention to lead and make things happen being subverted by a form of anxiety manifesting as the whole mr. Cool thing. Something I gotta be more conscious of. It's probably in my best judgement to stop, but I think I have another opportunity soon. Things went south with her dude, and I thought I'd initiate a few low key group things with her. Will any move I make as needy/uncallibrated at this point? Its been about two weeks and I'm seeing other girls

reply to the bottom one, it made a duplicate lol

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NoCash wrote:Yeah, this is

NoCash wrote:
Yeah, this is is def an issue I've been having. Think it happens through intention to lead and make things happen being subverted by a form of anxiety manifesting as the whole mr. Cool thing. Something I gotta be more conscious of. It's probably in my best judgement to stop, but I think I have another opportunity soon. Things went south with her dude, and I thought I'd initiate a few low key group things with her. Will any move I make as needy/uncallibrated at this point? Its been about two weeks and I'm seeing other girls

"lead and make things happen being subverted by a form of anxiety manifesting as the whole mr. Cool thing. Something I gotta be more conscious of."

you confused on this part. Did you mean lead by being subverted by anxiety? As in, while leading you felt anxiety and let that project while talking to her. 

With her you just need to have a conversation with with her and not ask her out or invite her out every other text. In this case develop the relationship, if you guys have any inside joke and by all means get inside those jokes and watch them do magic.

Also just see the other girls and develop what's going on with that. 

Daddyjihad1 (not verified)
Ya also good ^ if you havent

Ya also good ^

if you havent contacted her in 2 weeks, start slow again, re-build the relationship, and make something happen if you're really down for it.

i dont recommend it cause you're not in the proper headspace to keep your cool, mr. Cool ;)

get some other gals going and watch the magic happen

Also, are you meditating?

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catchingmeta4ssincebirth

catchingmeta4ssincebirth wrote:
NoCash wrote:
Yeah, this is is def an issue I've been having. Think it happens through intention to lead and make things happen being subverted by a form of anxiety manifesting as the whole mr. Cool thing. Something I gotta be more conscious of. It's probably in my best judgement to stop, but I think I have another opportunity soon. Things went south with her dude, and I thought I'd initiate a few low key group things with her. Will any move I make as needy/uncallibrated at this point? Its been about two weeks and I'm seeing other girls

"lead and make things happen being subverted by a form of anxiety manifesting as the whole mr. Cool thing. Something I gotta be more conscious of."

you confused on this part. Did you mean lead by being subverted by anxiety? As in, while leading you felt anxiety and let that project while talking to her. 

With her you just need to have a conversation with with her and not ask her out or invite her out every other text. In this case develop the relationship, if you guys have any inside joke and by all means get inside those jokes and watch them do magic.

Also just see the other girls and develop what's going on with that. 

Word this is very good advice.

Yeah let me be a little more clear.

What I was trying to say was this, based on my experiences and understanding: Masculine energy/power etc comes from within and is something you sort of have to flow with and not interrupt for it to take its desired course, meaning escalation feels most natural when it something where you just see what your gut feelings are to do and roll with them. These gut feelings are the masculine drive to lead. However anxiety can stop this where instead of doing something and rolling with the masculine drive you feel, you begin overthinking the situation ie "is this a good time to kiss/touch/make a move ?" esp with less experience, or not going out for a while, where you loose the confidence to just roll with things, almost the same as if you drop any other skill for a while then pick it back up, you loose confidence with it and the ability to "flow". Natural tendency is often to justify that shit "shes not my type", "environment wasn't right to kiss her" or often in my case "I don't want to chase bc that makes me look needy" <---- this is mr. cool for me as I see it. So that feeling of leading/escalating not happening bc "i don't want to chase/be needy" which is often just an excuse/manifestation of anxiety and leads to far too much aloofness /mixed signals im sending.

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Daddyjihad1 wrote: Ya also

Daddyjihad1 wrote:
Ya also good ^

if you havent contacted her in 2 weeks, start slow again, re-build the relationship, and make something happen if you're really down for it.

i dont recommend it cause you're not in the proper headspace to keep your cool, mr. Cool ;)

get some other gals going and watch the magic happen

Also, are you meditating?

Nah your def right about headspace haha but its been getting better and ill probably just going to go for it in as measured a way as possible. Starting out pretty friend to friend. If it blows up in my face I'll learn my lesson x2

Been meditating here and there, trying to get it started up more regularly.

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Alright so different

Alright so different situation different girl.

Met her talking to randoms at a bar,  was pretty in my head/gawdawful opener but she recognized me from a (uni) club where I talked to her two years back, and instantly I got in the zone, turns out she lives right around the corner ( lol these last two girls have been lay ups starting out tbh, but whatevs its building my confidence so I can get a little more ballsy/ free)

Basically everything went well that night. Vibed well, moved her around the bar, escalated, danced/grinded a bit in a more isolated spot, seeded a pull (I was DD, suggested hitting up an insomnia cookies near where we both lived) she ended up not getting in the car however bc she went to find a friend at another party, so grabbed her number and seeded a meetup. She ended up flaking bc she passed out, but I ended up playing frisbee drunk with a bunch of buddies in the middle of a construction site so probably had a way better time anyway lol.  

Had break right after that night, texted all throughout just building a vibe, (maybe texted a little too much tho). 

Met with her next day (yesterday) grabbed bubble tea went and sat outside at a different spot by a fire. And here's where a couple issues came out.

Alright so I was vibing really well at first, but she started asking a shit ton of rapport/small talk, I don't play off it well and it just killed the vibe, totally got me in my head/ asking too much rapport shit as well. Any way I try to kick things up again and find an excuse to head back to her place, she takes me to her room. Jack shit happens, rapport rapport rapport, I loose attraction a bit and don't escalate, a lot of this bc of excuse "shes sitting over there in a desk chair it would be pretty weird to just go over there and kiss her when we're in rapport mode" she ends up kicking me out a few minutes later to study lol. Tried to make something happen today this night, but shit just doesn't logistically work out, (maybe I could have pushed a little harder for?) 

I'll attatch some pieces of text convo leading up to this point (this is better than my usual texting but there's something missing I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it feels too respectable/boring lol, and she seems too wholesome, might just be way too much fluff):

 

Also what's your major?

Perfect

Business admin

I'm so financially stable

Call me sugar Daddy

Aare you psych?

Lol maybe later

Yes sir

You remember from like a year ago?

I feel like I did, but it was probs just a lucky guess

You must be a psychic

Can you tell me more about my future

Hmmm let me see

After college I see you disappearing to develop your radical psych theories

You will become the next Freud

But with way more cocaine

But after a certain run in with the law, and psych professors dissing your work

you decide to seduce your way up to become the leader of the Russian mob

Oh interesting. Well I really hope I end up aging better than Freud!

So you can have a lifetime supply of vodka and potatoes

And I was really hoping to open up my own practice and deal with mentally unstable people( which we have more than a fair share in )

That's actually really cool

Woah run in with the law? Yeah I like to rob banks.. to pay for my college tuition ofc! That shit doesn't come cheap. But let's keep it a secret between us

My parents are actually from Ukraine so we prefer borscht over potatoes ;)

Damn see I knew you were a gangster

That's good I might choose you as my ride or die

Funny story I actually did break into a bank once.. on accident

See I don't disappoint haha

Do tell

Hmm i think I'll the rest save that one for another time ;)

Nothing (too) illegal

Speaking of robbing banks

I also sensed in ur future that Mon night we are finally going to rob this ____ bubble tea place

How'd you know I like the boba?

Bubble tea is kinda my obsession

I shouldn't mess with the hand that feeds me though

Don't know if I'm down to rob

I caught a vibe

This psychic thing, its weird

Naw ofc. I was messing

Wow I'm actually starting to believe you're psychic. Either that or you're really good at analyzing ppl!

;)

So in thinking we hit the bubble tea spot at 8pm today

I'm going to need your instruction though, I'm kind of inexperienced

when it comes to bubble tea

damn! You're a very fast responder haha

Okay I'll let you know later. I have class till 5 and then I have to go grocery shopping so hopefully I'll be back in time to give you the bubble tea lessons lol

I kno lol, sorry had to stop texting bc of the lactic acid buildup in my thumbs

And sounds good!!

Haha surreee 

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Yeah I just got back and I


Yeah I just got back and I gotta make myself something to eat
Uhhh student life...

Make some damn borscht!

Haha it's too hot for that
It's okay I finished 
Are we still meeting at 8

for sure

I hope you're wearing something cute so we match :P

Yeah are pjs okay?

Yep that's cool
I'll be wearing the dress you got me

Yay excited to see it on you
I'm ready when should I leave

Now!
I'm by _______

Meet me in bubble tea?

Yep
 
Next Day:
Oi . Sending wishes to your dad hoping he isn't too stoned at work td (callback to something from convo)
Haha thanks. I keep telling him to lay off the brownies but we won't listen to me

Lol. Steal some so we can put them in insomnia cookies when they aren't looking
How was your studying yesterday? I hope your getting all As for kicking me out :P

lol I can make better cookies than insomnia cookies!
Honestly I opened the book and stared at the wall, was not very productive. But the wall was very flattered :)
Sorry for kicking you out!

Lol you kicked me out to stare at a wall. Ur going to have to make it up to me for that one ;)
And damn you gotta teach me, thats going on my resume if I kno how lol

What are you up to?

Haha it wasn't planned I swear!
Yes I also know how to salsa dance if you want to learn :)

And I'm going to study. :/ I have so much to learn and I keep getting distracted... by walls

I'll come discipline you! No more staring at walls for you miss
actually tho im watching a old school movie rn with some buddies for my film class
but I may be down for a mini study sesh after if it's too far not past ur bedtime

Yeah I'm just here in the study lounge in my pajamas, no biggie
Trying to cram every fact in my brain
Yeah idk how long I'll be here, but maybe you can make it before I fall asleep
I don't guarantee, however, that I will not fall asleep here

Alright lol I'll come wake ur ass up

Ok lol but don't distract me! I really need to study 
Still being studious?
Just finished, long ass movie lol

No my brain is fried I can't study anymore haha
Yeah I feel that lol.

Hey, why don't you come over and we watch something for a bit
Study breakz
I've got the suite pretty much to myself rn lol

I just got ready for bed! I have an early class tomorrow 
Also this is kinda last minute
I usually go to sleep fairly early

Yeah I figured it was past ur bedtime :P
I just finished studying too
How early is your class?

Yeah I have to wake up at 9 unfortunately. Didn't finish studying lol so I have to read a chapter before class

Damn sucks, yeahhh I have one early too. Probs not the best idea rn

Yeah exactly! Another time though we should hangout. Goodnight :)

Sure. Niiight

I mean obv pretty locked and loaded. Kind of felt a little flat though idk. Ill condense shit a little more next time